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The more and more I see people giving reasons for abortion, the more I think that the whole abortion question is clearly about the breakdown of the family, the failing of sexual values and the lack of respect for women, not only by women for themselves, but by men as well. Men and woman too often treat each other as sexual objects in this world.

We live in a world where the killing of unborn children is acceptable and legal only by the way of court decisions. Courts decisions once claimed that human beings of another race were property denying them not only their freedom, but their status as human beings. Women once had no right to vote in this country. America still grapples with men that physically abuse their wives and girlfriends on a daily basis. There are adults still that will exploit women and children in America for profit, self pleasure or both. There are people that sexually abuse children in this country and are not even prosecuted to the fullest extant of the law. This is not and never will demonstrate our respect for human life.

If a man went into his front lawn in America and started killing puppies he would be arrested for cruelty to animals, people would be shocked, appauled. Fair enough. However in certain circles, animals are afforded more rights that that of unborn children or than those of victims of violence. Civil rights groups will defend the most depraved criminals while the abuse of innocent woman and children continues. A woman can enter a so-called medical clinic and have the growing human being inside of her ripped out or take a pill to chemically induce an abortion and she is thought to be excercising her rights as a woman to bodily control. And the excuses are many...

No woman should live in a country where she feels that an abortion is needed because she so fears a man and yet they do. Every woman should live free of the fear of abusive men.

No person should be so loose in their sexual values that the wanting of more sex justifies the killing of her own unborn children in order to maintain that life of sexual gratification. Men and women need to view each other as more than opportunites for sex. Children should should be viewed as more then obstacles to personal lifestyle choices.

No woman should feel the need to kill an unborn child because men exist that would commit the most heinous crime of rape. Violence, even of this nature, should not result in death. Love and respect for life should be the beginning of healing.

How can we expect to change the mindset about the killing of unborn children in a world that tolerates violence against women and children, and that exploits both women and children? Respect for women must take hold in the hearts of all people, the family and the loving relationship must be the context for the expression of sexual love that creates children if we are to have respect for life. A society that will reject all forms of violence and exploitation of women and children will be a society that respects life.



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Posts: 3 | Posted: 11:28 PM on March 6, 2006 | IP
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How can you expect to change the mindset that leads to abortion when you wish to sweep the problem under the rug and declare it solved?

You offer no solutions for the problems you list.
 


Posts: 8 | Posted: 12:19 AM on March 8, 2006 | IP
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the problem with so much, if not all of your misgivings, is that they rely on your fundamental belief that a microscopic cluster of cells is equivilent to a child. It's getting way ahead of the evidence to tout your belief in "life at conception" as a universal truth with which to exact moral judgements on others.
 


Posts: 10 | Posted: 7:53 PM on March 8, 2006 | IP
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but I agree with your genreal sentiments in wishing we could live in a country and a world where people were good to each other and respected one another.
 


Posts: 10 | Posted: 7:58 PM on March 8, 2006 | IP
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 It isnt a human, its a cluster of sperm cells, and its the womans choice, no one elses, say if a 12 year old girl was raped, would you let her have that baby?  Or if the mother couldnt take care of it, what then?  
 


Posts: 13 | Posted: 11:44 PM on February 14, 2007 | IP
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A cluster of sperm cells... you crack me up.


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Posts: 1287 | Posted: 10:02 AM on February 15, 2007 | IP
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Sperm cells

"Courts decisions once claimed that human beings of another race were property denying them not only their freedom, but their status as human beings. Women once had no right to vote in this country."

And one day I bet we add, "At one time, gays and lesbians didn't have the right to marry (or enter a civil union or whatever we'll call it)."

(Edited by rockclimber_10 2/17/2007 at 10:19 PM).


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Posts: 52 | Posted: 9:32 PM on February 16, 2007 | IP
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Quote from rockclimber_10 at 9:32 PM on February 16, 2007 :

"Courts decisions once claimed that human beings of another race were property denying them not only their freedom, but their status as human beings. Women once had no right to vote in this country."

And one day I bet we add, "At one time, gays and lesbians didn't have the right to marry (or enter a civil union or whatever we'll call it)."

(Edited by rockclimber_10 2/17/2007 at 10:19 PM).


That's so true.

 


Posts: 292 | Posted: 06:41 AM on February 19, 2007 | IP
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Add to that "at one time, in this country, women were allowed to kill their children so that they didn't have to go through the trouble of rearing them".


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More like women were forced against their will on the decision to have children or not.
 


Posts: 13 | Posted: 11:51 PM on February 23, 2007 | IP
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Oh yeah, that's right.  All women who have abortions were raped.  I keep forgetting that.


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Posts: 1287 | Posted: 09:36 AM on February 24, 2007 | IP
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Thats not what I was saying, regardless of that, its still their choice.
 


Posts: 13 | Posted: 01:01 AM on February 25, 2007 | IP
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If I kill you, that's my choice.  Doesn't mean its my "right".


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Of course not, but abortion isnt killing, its stopping the fetus from developing into a human being, how can kill someone if thy were never born.
 


Posts: 13 | Posted: 01:32 AM on February 27, 2007 | IP
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That's right, no way can a fetus even as young as 9 weeks gestation can survive, wait, nevermind.


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Posts: 1287 | Posted: 6:11 PM on February 27, 2007 | IP
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Abortion IS murder!
 


Posts: 1 | Posted: 09:36 AM on February 28, 2007 | IP
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Quote from handsomeman at 11:44 PM on February 14, 2007 :
 It isnt a human, its a cluster of sperm cells, and its the womans choice, no one elses, say if a 12 year old girl was raped, would you let her have that baby?  Or if the mother couldnt take care of it, what then?  


Adoption is an option.

Abortion could reduce the twelve yearold's abillity to have a baby later in life.





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Posts: 681 | Posted: 11:08 PM on May 4, 2007 | IP
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"Abortion could reduce the twelve yearold's abillity to have a baby later in life."

Last time I checked abortion was safer than childbirth, and a normal abortion, with no complications does not increase your chance of miscarriage, premature birth or anything else appertaining to the 'ability to have a baby later in life'.








(Edited by choice 6/5/2007 at 09:39 AM).


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Posts: 14 | Posted: 09:37 AM on June 5, 2007 | IP
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Let me guess, Planned Parenthood (yeah, right) fed you that line of garbage.


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Posts: 1287 | Posted: 07:52 AM on June 6, 2007 | IP
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Actually I'm in England and Planned Parenthood here is a rarity, in fact I don't even think there are any Planned Parenthood Centres in England, and I certainly hadn't heard of them until you mentioned the name and I looked them up.
So, if you hadn't brought them up, I wouldn't know who they were.
Thanks for providing me with a whole new site of relevant information though.

"abortion poses few risks to a woman's physical health, particularly when carried out during the first 12 weeks of pregnancy. And, in the vast majority of cases, the fact that a woman has had an abortion does not affect her chances of becoming pregnant and having normal pregnancies in future."

http://www.nhsdirect.nhs.uk/articles/article.aspx?articleId=1§ionId=33179

That is from the website of the British Health Service.
Unless of course they are lying to the public?

(Edited by choice 6/6/2007 at 08:39 AM).


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