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[color=fuchsia]Abortions should be legal in every state. Now I do believe there should be a limit to the amount of Abortions one could get. Abortions should NOT replace contraceptives, but people do make mistakes. Why should a woman be forced to have a child when she is simply not up to the job. Caring for a child requires dedication, love, care, and a financially stable environment. Can a person honestly care for something they don't want? A lot of children are born to unfit mothers... and that has to stop. And one way to prevent that is to legalize abortions. I also argue my opinion of Hannity's America


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If you are old enough to have sex, especially if it's unprotected, you are old enough to either have the baby and keep it or have the baby and let someone who will take care of and love the child keep it. People think that just because it is early, that the baby is just a fetus and therefore, has no characteristics of a baby. This is so untrue! By 8 weeks the baby has a heartbeat! By 9 weeks (or earlier) you can see the little hands and feet! Why deprive this child of a warm and loving life just because YOU made a MISTAKE? I do believe there are a lot of unfit mothers. I DON"T think that abortion is going to reduce this fact. Do the right thing and let someone adopt this precious life... For the people who are considering abortion and think their baby isn't lifelike yet, take a look at this website....it also explains the different abortion procedures (with pictures if you like)....

http://abortionno.org/Resources/pictures.html
 


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Quote from Natasha1988 at 3:36 PM on November 4, 2007 :
[color=fuchsia]Abortions should be legal in every state. Now I do believe there should be a limit to the amount of Abortions one could get. Abortions should NOT replace contraceptives, but people do make mistakes. Why should a woman be forced to have a child when she is simply not up to the job. Caring for a child requires dedication, love, care, and a financially stable environment. Can a person honestly care for something they don't want? A lot of children are born to unfit mothers... and that has to stop. And one way to prevent that is to legalize abortions. I also argue my opinion of Hannity's America



So if I understand you correctly, the only option that a pregnant woman that "made a mistake" and doesn’t want the child, is to kill that child.


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Quote from adoptionNOTabortion at 3:09 PM on November 11, 2007 :
People think that just because it is early, that the baby is just a fetus and therefore, has no characteristics of a baby. This is so untrue! By 8 weeks the baby has a heartbeat! By 9 weeks (or earlier) you can see the little hands and feet!


So, before the embryo/fetus shows signs of being a "baby" it's okay to have an abortion? What about before the embryo feels pain (before about 4-5 weeks after conception)?

What about those women that were using birth control? Obviously she didn't want a child if she was trying to prevent the pregnancy.

What about those women that can't AFFORD the pregnancy? I know abortions aren't cheap, but prenatal visits, vitamins, ultrasounds, etc. are a lot more expensive. It's not all that common that an adoptive family would agree to pay for the whole pregnancy and in some states it's not even legal. Should the woman keep the pregnancy even if the child isn't going to be nourished appropriately?

What about fetuses that will be born mentally/physically handicapped? Some of those children have very painful lives and it could have been stopped before s/he was even born. Those children usually grow up moving from foster home to foster home because very few people want a handicapped child.

 


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Since when did we start to Euthanize Humans?


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Just in the US? 1994, in Oregon. Worldwide, well,  see for yourself.


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Posts: 81 | Posted: 08:54 AM on April 29, 2008 | IP
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Just hope You never become considered a useless eater.


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I think you've misunderstood the basic principle of euthanasia here. Euthanasia is voluntary and must be requested, or in the few cases where the patient is unable to communicate is only carried out if it is in the patients best interest - see the concept of a 'mercy killing'.

You insinuate, both here and elsewhere, that either those who choose to have an abortion or those who are responsible for euthanasia make a simple, easy choice to make life easier for themselves. That is hugely rarely the case.


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Can you think of anything more terrifying than knowing that they are going to euthanize you, when you don't want to be, and not being able to stop it?


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Knowing that you are going to suffer 4-5 years of cripplingly painful disability followed by death, and you cannot escape from it?


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Posts: 81 | Posted: 5:09 PM on May 14, 2008 | IP
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How do you know what a particular person is feeling? If the Person can't tell you than you can not make a determination. Also the brain can shut off pain receptors if it gets the same signal all the time.


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How do you know what a particular person is feeling?

So how was your argument of two posts valid at all? You need some consistency here. To answer - in some cases, you cannot. You can only do what you think is the best for them.

Also the brain can shut off pain receptors if it gets the same signal all the time.

Not to that great an extent. Pain will be numbed, but it will still be there. And would you really want to live, crippled and in constant pain for a few years, waiting to die?


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But it must be better to cease to exist?


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*shrug*
That's a case for the individual. In some cases, undoubtably yes.


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Posts: 81 | Posted: 7:29 PM on May 27, 2008 | IP
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The only one that can make the determination that it  would be better to die than live is the individual that would die.


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Not so. If such a person is unable to make a decision, then one must be made for them - to avoid making such a decision is highly irresponsible.


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How terrifying it must be to hear other debate over weather or not to kill you.


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Quote from iangb at 12:16 PM on June 19, 2008 :
Not so. If such a person is unable to make a decision, then one must be made for them - to avoid making such a decision is highly irresponsible.


When we start making that decision for others, we start down a road that leads to horrific conclusions. It's the devaluation of life. As soon as we say one form of life is expendable, then it is an easy step to say that another form of life is expendable. And before long, we are putting the mentally handicapped and elderly to death. It's the principle that is important.


 


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When we start making that decision for others, we start down a road that leads to horrific conclusions. It's the devaluation of life. As soon as we say one form of life is expendable, then it is an easy step to say that another form of life is expendable. And before long, we are putting the mentally handicapped and elderly to death. It's the principle that is important.


The "slippery slope" argument never works becaus I can just as easily turn it around and use  the same false argument against something that you might support.

For instance if we as a society start executing criminals for heinous murders what's to prevent us form allowing the execution of individuals arrested for jaywalking?

How about, if we prevent church organizations from giving food and clothing to the homeless, because it will be an easy step for these organizations to start giving drugs and alcohol to the homeless in hopes of luring them into joining their churches.
 


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