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TrentonMich

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I want to impose a theoretical question….What if an angel (or God) came to a pregnant woman and told her it was OK to abort her baby?

Before you rant and rave that you “know” God would never say that humble yourself for you do not understand God, no one can.

So theoretically a situation like this could come up.

I’ve thought about this and how sure I am that God loves life and all the pro life quotes from the bible but wouldn’t a message to you from God negate anything else you had ever been taught? What would it take for you to believe that God did not care would he have to come to you personally? Or would you believe someone who said they had a message from God?

These questions trouble me.

 


Posts: 3 | Posted: 4:04 PM on March 9, 2006 | IP
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It doesn't matter whether God approves or disapproves of abortion.  Humans should oppose abortion simply on the grounds that it's uncivilized and contributes nothing to society.  
Should your hypothetical situation ever occur, it would be more important to make up one's own mind and not rely on visitations from aliens, the Almighty or anyone else.  

Abortion is similar to head hunting in New Guinea.  All the laws, mandates and messages from God are irrelevant if the hearts and minds of the people still object.  And they will still lop off heads.


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Posts: 1 | Posted: 8:41 PM on March 9, 2006 | IP
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I believe your post concerning God is directed mostly towards Christianity. I'll answer in such ways as I can.

God cannot lie. He is infinitely powerful, but he has limited himself for our sake. He will not lie, and he would not send one of his own angels to say otherwise.

If, perhaps, a person claimed that an angel told him/her that abortion was right, than I would say he/she was lying. (Implying of course, that the person is speaking of the God of Christianity)

I might also say that it may have been a demonic manifestation. The Bible teaches that wolves go about in sheeps clothing, and I've no doubt such things have happened before.

If an angel appeared before me, than I would not believe him. The Bible teaches that if even an angel appeared in all his glory and spoke contrariwise to the will and commandment of God that you were not to obey or believe him.

That is what I would do, should it occur.


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Posts: 31 | Posted: 6:02 PM on March 24, 2006 | IP
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Well Templar, no offense, but you failed to realize something. If people aren't basing their lives off of the will of God then they won't have any reason to do as an angel said anyway. If an angel came to somebody who was basing their lives off of the will of God, They should do as God commanded and not trust it because it would be going against what God had already taught. If hypothetically it was definately from God, then they should give him the benefit of the doubt. When God told Hosea to marry a harlot, nobody knew why at the time, it was later that it became evident what God's purpose was.


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Posts: 1 | Posted: 01:16 AM on May 30, 2006 | IP
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First of all lets ask this question my friend in TrentonMich. Does GOD contradict himself? If GOD is unchangable (Mal. 3:6 ) why would He tell us to take the life of the innocent when throughout the Bible redemption and the preservation of fallen man is so central. If GOD says "thou shall not murder" why would he send an angel to tell us to kill an innocent child? You also have to wonder whether this "angel" is from GOD at all. Angels are ministering ( in the greek ministering comes from the root word 'leitourgeo' from where we get the word liturgy. It means to perform charitable or beneficial work ) spirits (Heb. 1:14 ). A ministering spirit is not going to tell you to kill your unborn child. GOD cannot be tempted to do evil ( James 1:13-14 ).  Also if you study your Bible Satan and his subjects masquerade as angels of light ( 2Cor.11:14-15 ) "seeking someone to devour" (1Pet.5:8-9 ). So how do we know whether GOD is speaking? Well GOD never contradicts what he has already said. Whatever comes to you must first line up with the Bible. That's GOD's primary way of speaking to mankind. When you become familiar with the truth you'll know a lie when it looms on the horizon. Listen What the apostle Paul says in speaking to the Galations fell into error " I am amazed that you were so quickly deserting Him who called you by the grace of Christ, for different gospel; which is really not another; only there are some who are disturbing you, and want to distort the gospel of Christ. But even if WE, or an ANGEL from heaven, should preach to you a gospel contrary to that which we have preached to you, let him be accursed. As we have said before, so I say again now, if any man is preaching to you a gospel contrary to that which you received let him be accursed" ( Gal.1:6-9 ).  My friend stand on the ground your on for it's solid ground. Don't just read your Bible but study to descern truth from error. And what you don't understand at that point ask the LORD to help you for he gives it to you generously. ( James 1:5-6 )

 


Posts: 1 | Posted: 12:04 PM on July 13, 2006 | IP
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It seems that everyone here has missed an important point: that God is Himself the supreme abortionist. God theoretically aborts more babies than all human beings do combined.

According to Christianity, God can kill whoever He wants to. It doesn't matter if it contradicts a doctrine He created for people. In the Bible, God contradicted human doctrines left and right. He killed Job's family, for instance, to test Job's loyalty. If any human being committed such an atrocity, they would be condemned to Hell by Biblical doctrine.

If God told you to kill an unborn child, it would obviously be an exception to the laws He'd said before about not killing, and because what God says is right regardless of all circumstances, it would be wise to follow what God says and kill the unborn baby, ignoring any law set previously.

Don't forget that God has asked inviduals in the past to kill their offspring. Take Abraham...



Now, what is the matter with everyone else? You're all arguing the exact point TrentonMich told you not to argue: that God would never do such a thing.


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