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I want to first say that in participating in this discussion I hope to grow in my understanding of different opinions and approaches to this controversial topic by your discussion, and I do not in any way mean to be offensive or closed minded.

I have struggled with the issue of abortion for a long time, and for me it always comes down to my definition of life. I, like many others, consider the miracle of our lives to start at conception, and with this premise the only logical conclusion that I ever end with is that abortion is not something to be done unless in extreme circumstances.

My past definition of extreme circumstance has included rape and danger to the mother. Others would argue that the extreme changes to the lifestyle of the mother and her quality of life should also be taken into consideration. This is the issue with which I know struggle.

So I ask those called "pro-choice", what is the real choice? It has been articulated that women have the right to do with their own bodies what they want. I in no way disagree with this assertion. But I can't help but wonder, "Does this not also include the choice to have sex." The biological process of sexual intercourse by its nature serves the purpose of creating human life. By engaging in sexual intercourse, no matter what precautions or assurances you take, you are still risking the start of the biological process of pregnancy. It would seem to me that the choice lies in the decision to have sex.

Our legal system assures certain freedoms as long as they do not infringe upon the freedoms of others. A woman should have the right to do with her body what she wants until it affects another living being. Once she becomes pregnant, it would seem to me that the choice to abort infringes on another living being's right to life. She, in cases of consensual sex, did indeed have the initial choice to have sexual intercourse and start the life of the baby. Isn't that the real choice?

Now, I recognize that many will say that it is not practical to ask Americans to control their sexuality to this extent. It would seem to me that the trade of is one of allowing Americans to be as sexually promiscuous as they want at the cost of the lives of babies conceived in "accidental pregnancies". Is this a trade that we are willing to give: sex for life? I am not sure.

Again, I realize that my whole argument is based on the assumption that the miracle of life begins at conception and that we should protect that life when it is first created. I am not interested in the arguments of those who do not also accept this premise, but rather those who accept it and still support the woman's right to choice.

Also, please remember that I am open to suggestion and argument of the respectful and civil kind, and that I am very open minded and willing to amend my logic if it is found to be faulty.

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Posts: 2 | Posted: 02:44 AM on April 13, 2006 | IP
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i personally dont see how anyone could justify abortion without denying that a baby is alive at conception. and technically, women do have the right to abort their babies because rights are defined by the government and the government allows abortion.  but this does not justify it.  abortion is wrong.  i am firmly convinced of this.  ryguy, dont let people convince you that murder is acceptable under the title of "choice".  
 


Posts: 79 | Posted: 2:08 PM on April 20, 2006 | IP
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Others would argue that the extreme changes to the lifestyle of the mother and her quality of life should also be taken into consideration. This is the issue with which I know struggle.


Outside of rape (which you already listed as an exception) how did the mother not have a choice in the matter?  Immaculate conception?


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In my years of Medical school , i was amazed by the human body and what it can do.Life is extraordinary and i was thinking how can a woman in the right state of mind can have an abortion.But then i grew up and realised tha society is more complex than that .So i think a woman can do it , as long as she does it in the beginning of the pregnancy and her conscience tells her so.Killing a bug is ok, but a baby..outrageous! What's the difference?The inteligence of the last one? The fact that is one of our own?Cells die in millions every day in our body , but we don't make a big fuss over it.
The best way: prevention.
 


Posts: 3 | Posted: 05:32 AM on April 29, 2006 | IP
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Why should you abort in a rape situation? Isn't it the rapist that should be terminated, not the innocent baby?


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Quote from kadishko at 05:32 AM on April 29, 2006 :
In my years of Medical school , i was amazed by the human body and what it can do.Life is extraordinary and i was thinking how can a woman in the right state of mind can have an abortion.But then i grew up and realised tha society is more complex than that .So i think a woman can do it , as long as she does it in the beginning of the pregnancy and her conscience tells her so.Killing a bug is ok, but a baby..outrageous! What's the difference?The inteligence of the last one? The fact that is one of our own?Cells die in millions every day in our body , but we don't make a big fuss over it.
The best way: prevention.



Judging by your writing skills alone, I highly doubt you attended medical school.

(Edited by rockclimber_10 1/17/2007 at 2:15 PM).

(Edited by rockclimber_10 1/17/2007 at 8:43 PM).


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Posts: 52 | Posted: 2:14 PM on January 17, 2007 | IP
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Quote from EMyers at 5:05 PM on April 24, 2006 :
Others would argue that the extreme changes to the lifestyle of the mother and her quality of life should also be taken into consideration. This is the issue with which I know struggle.


Outside of rape (which you already listed as an exception) how did the mother not have a choice in the matter?  Immaculate conception?



I think ryguy meant "the extreme changes to the lifestyle of the mother" would result from a dangerous pregnancy/birth (not a rape or an immaculate conception). Therefore, "her quality of life should also be taken into consideration" and an abortion should be a possible last resort/option.


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Posts: 52 | Posted: 2:21 PM on January 17, 2007 | IP
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Number 1:  What is "dought"?

Number 2:  That still doesn't explain how she didn't have a "choice" in the matter.


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1. I meant doubt...fixed it just for you.

2. What are you talking about? He didn't mean that the mother did or didn't have a choice in anything, he was explaining another "extreme circumstance" where abortion might be an option (I think).


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