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Medical Doctors-Death Dealers: The Third Leading Cause of Death in the USA.




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Posts: 196 | Posted: 3:37 PM on May 13, 2005 | IP
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ok... so now your anti doctors... you idiot. so in that year how many lives do you think doctors saved? and how reliable are those figures, becuase I really don't think that 685 people are dieing a day even in a country the size of america from incompetence.
Are you honestly surgesting the world would be a better place if we had no doctors?
I feel sorry for the rest of you americans that have to actualy put up with radicals like this.


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Posts: 301 | Posted: 8:31 PM on May 13, 2005 | IP
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lol...i just think it's funny!
 


Posts: 292 | Posted: 01:57 AM on May 14, 2005 | IP
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Quote from Peter87 at 8:31 PM on May 13, 2005 :
Are you honestly surgesting the world would be a better place if we had no doctors?

Well Brainiac since they are the third leading cause of death then obviously if they weren't around them more people would live.  Look, Brainiac, it is true when doctors aren't around the death rate decreases.

http://www.mercola.com/fcgi/pf/2000/jun/17/doctors_strike.htm

Doctors Go on 'Strike' and Death Rates Plummet

Death rates in Israel have dropped considerably since physicians in public hospitals implemented a program of sanctions three months ago, according to a survey of burial societies.

The Israel Medical Association (IMA) began the action in March to protest against the government's proposed imposition of a new four-year wage contract for doctors. Since then, hundreds of thousands of visits to outpatient clinics have been canceled or postponed along with tens of thousands of elective operations. Emergency rooms, dialysis units, oncology departments, obstetric and neonatal departments, and other vital facilities have been working normally during the action.

The Jerusalem Post surveyed non-profit burial societies, which perform funerals for the vast majority of Israelis, and found that the number of funerals has fallen drastically.

According to one funeral parlor manager the same thing occurred in 1983, during a similar action by the IMA, which lasted 4 and a half months.

The only area of Israel which was found to not have a reduction in its death rate was the city of Netanya. It also just so happens that all of the doctors at the only hospital in this city have "no-strike" clauses in their contracts and are therefore unaffected by the action.

British Medical Journal 2000;320:1561

COMMENT: Well, here we have it again, definitive proof that traditional medicine overall kills more people than it saves. There is no question that traditional approaches for acute traumas (e.g., heart attack, stroke, accidents, etc.) are valuable and should not be abandoned. However, overall, when takes uses drug/surgical paradigm to address chronic illness, it is generally a prescription for disaster.

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   Medical Mistakes Kill 100,000 Americans A Year

   One Out of Every 10 Patients Admitted to the ICU Are There Because of Doctor-Realted Side Effects

   If You Are Younger Than 45 -- Your Number One Risk Of Dying Is Being Treated By A Doctor!

   Blunders By Doctors Kill 40,000 people a Year In Britain





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Posts: 196 | Posted: 12:55 PM on May 14, 2005 | IP
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Can you please quote somne information that isn't skewed by your agenda.
No way do doctors kill more people than save them! I had to visit a docotor today and in noway was it negative, it was rather positive infact.
I mean in is laugthable what you claim.
Please I'[m asking now EVERYONE post to say if you belive the world would be a better place without doctors.


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Posts: 301 | Posted: 10:29 PM on May 14, 2005 | IP
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sorry, i'll post when i stop laughing...any time now...lol

unworthy is a funny one, that one

lol...i'd say he needs a doctor more urgently than anyone
 


Posts: 292 | Posted: 02:12 AM on May 15, 2005 | IP
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Job 30: 1 But now the younger ones laugh at me; those whose fathers I would have refused to set with the dogs of my flock.

Yeah, the "experts" are ridiculing me.  . . . boy am I worried.


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Posts: 196 | Posted: 06:19 AM on May 15, 2005 | IP
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Fine when you have an acedent and break your leg, or you get a disease or anything, just remember you don't think that doctors are any good and just lie there.


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Posts: 301 | Posted: 10:38 AM on May 15, 2005 | IP
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Quote from Peter87 at 10:38 AM on May 15, 2005 :
Fine when you have an acedent and break your leg, or you get a disease or anything, just remember you don't think that doctors are any good and just lie there.


Yeah if I get a disease I will run to the doctor so he can give me a drug that is certified by the FDA for treatment that is soon recalled because it is proven to be unsafe.  Funny thing is it is medical researchers who certify the drugs are safe . . . when they actually are not.  Yeah, you are brilliant.





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Posts: 196 | Posted: 10:30 AM on May 17, 2005 | IP
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Sorry but I'm going to be an ignoramus for a second!
I'm glad that you don't like doctors making you more likly to die before passing your moronic genes to another generation.
GET THE HELL OUT OF MY OUR GENE POOL

becuase every drug is unsafe of course.

Are you honestly saying that you will nether have surgery or take medication of any type?


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Posts: 301 | Posted: 4:18 PM on May 17, 2005 | IP
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okay, so he has a trust issue with fda approved drugs... mild paranoia perhaps. aside from the drug issue, i want to talk about physical injury.

what would you do if you broke your leg? just leave it? if your mother was shot would you stare her to death? don't tell me you wouldn't attempt to make a cast, or do what you could for your mother. In the same way, doctor's do their best to help. but statistically speaking, you're better off in the hands of somebody who understands how our bodies work than your own in the case of physical injury...



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Quote from Carns at 7:04 PM on May 17, 2005 :
okay, so he has a trust issue with fda approved drugs... mild paranoia perhaps. aside from the drug issue, i want to talk about physical injury.

what would you do if you broke your leg? just leave it? if your mother was shot would you stare her to death? don't tell me you wouldn't attempt to make a cast, or do what you could for your mother. In the same way, doctor's do their best to help. but statistically speaking, you're better off in the hands of somebody who understands how our bodies work than your own in the case of physical injury...


Funny, what did people do before there were "medical doctor"?  Oh yeah everyone died so the planet was left barren.  The Romans cured plauges in their cities by cleaning up the sewage systems and prohibiting public kissing . . . obviously the orgies were still kosher.

Exactly how "paranoid" should a person be when one of the active ingredients in vaccinations is called MERCURY?  Probably because vaccinations are the only drug to have a trust fund established for the injuries and deaths attributted to vaccinations.

Probably as paranoid as a person who avoids eating Cheerios because one of the ingredients is an industrial solvent  called Tri Sodium Phosphate.

Yes, your ignorace is bliss.  Why don't you get some knowledge/facts before you get an opinion? Oh yeah that would take out all the fun of your stance since it would fall apart.

Quote from Peter87 at 4:18 PM on May 17, 2005 :
Sorry but I'm going to be an ignoramus for a second!
I'm glad that you don't like doctors making you more likly to die before passing your moronic genes to another generation.
GET THE HELL OUT OF MY OUR GENE POOL

becuase every drug is unsafe of course.

Are you honestly saying that you will nether have surgery or take medication of any type?


"Sorry but I'm going to be an ignoramus for a second!" Sorry but this appears to be your life long quest.

"becuase every drug is unsafe of course."
Obviously that is why there is a campaign to "JUST SAY NO TO DRUGS!"  since obvioulsy the only difference between a drug pusher and a medical doctor is a license to sell drugs since neither are proven safe.

Obvioulsy if the medical personnel/researchers who are biased by money (research grants) certainly are NOT out for the best interests of the general public.  And since unnecessary surgeries are fueled by greed, the image of the "friendly country doctor" you are trying to paint is a joke.  

1 Tim 6: 6 But godliness with contentment is great gain. 7 For we have brought nothing into the world, and it is plain that neither can we carry anything out. 8 But having food and clothing, we will be satisfied with these. 9 But those having purposed to be rich fall into temptation, and a snare, and many foolish and hurtful lusts, which plunge men into destruction and loss. 10 For the love of money is a root of all evils, by means of which some having lusted after it were seduced from the faith, and they themselves pierced through by many pains.




(Edited by unworthy servant 5/18/2005 at 09:20 AM).


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Posts: 196 | Posted: 09:18 AM on May 18, 2005 | IP
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1. There ARE plenty of safe drugs out there, go tell someone with HIV that they are better without the drugs they take, that on average give them about 10 years extra of life. Now please find me some evidence for the belief that ALL drugs are unsafe.

2. The just say no campaign is to do with ilegal "social" drugs with incredible dangerous side effects not medical drugs.

3.Ok doctors are there for the benefit of the general public, well at least in britain on the NHS, becuase doctors get paid a fixed salary no matter how many operations they perform.

4. Research grants are that, research grants, money for the research it goes towards the research not there back pocket.

5.Great post on the romans, becuase they were that civerlisation that famously had not doctors. No! They had tonnes of doctors, they had greek doctors who invented the hipocratic oath, which in it (the original at least) "If the paitent can't aford to pay, then perform the operation for free". Please don't tempt to argue the history of medicen I have studied it. But lets look at the other angle. The plague, all those religious cures were so very sucesful, there was no real medical solution available, and thus people atempted to use religion, and they died. Now on a similair scale, small pox, those nasty evil greedy doctors got rid of the wide spread of that, anthrax, TB, etc.

6."Funny, what did people do before there were "medical doctor"?  Oh yeah everyone died so the planet was left barren." No but the average life span was less than 30 years and now its between 70 and 80.

So now I've destroyed your post, what are you going to do? let me guess ignour everything I have said and then quote scriptures?

(Edited by Peter87 5/18/2005 at 2:52 PM).


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Quote from Peter87 at 2:51 PM on May 18, 2005 :
1. There ARE plenty of safe drugs out there,


Quote from Peter87 at 4:18 PM on May 17, 2005 :becuase every drug is unsafe of course.


James 1:8 a double minded man is unstable in ALL ways

(Edited by unworthy servant 5/18/2005 at 6:27 PM).


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Quote from unworthy servant at 6:26 PM on May 18, 2005 :
Quote from Peter87 at 2:51 PM on May 18, 2005 :
1. There ARE plenty of safe drugs out there,


Quote from Peter87 at 4:18 PM on May 17, 2005 :becuase every drug is unsafe of course.


James 1:8 a double minded man is unstable in ALL ways

(Edited by unworthy servant 5/18/2005 at 6:27 PM).


He was being sarcastic, you fool. *Bangs head agianst wall* How are you so stupid??

 


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Let's see . . . how trustworthy would a "health professional" who INTENTIONALLY places a known POISON into vaccinations and then gives that concoction to millions of people.  obviously very trustworthy to the braindead.

Of course the same braindead people gleefully go to the dentist to have him put mercury into their mouths via dental filings.  

mer·cu·ry (mūrky-r)
n.
Symbol Hg

   A silvery-white  poisonous metallic element, liquid at room temperature and used in thermometers. Atomic number 80; atomic weight 200.59; melting point -38.83°C; boiling point 356.73°C; specific gravity 13.546 (at 20°C); valence 1, 2. Also called hydrargyrum.


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Posts: 196 | Posted: 08:51 AM on May 19, 2005 | IP
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I wasn't being sarcastic. But now you have read the first quatre of the line of my last post, please read the rest, see that in context about HIV etc. And then try to refute some of my other points and sho us of this inteligence you so speak of. And considering I destroyed your entire post I would expect you to do more than quote me out of context, but what else was I to expect out of someone with no ability to think for themselves.


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