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According to Marx it's the state after a nation has become socialist...more "perfection"


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Posts: 351 | Posted: 10:40 AM on January 11, 2003 | IP
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socialism in it's purest form is impossible. Sweden et al are mixed economies that lean towards socialism. Similarily, pure capitalism is impossible too. The US is a mixed economy that leans towards capitalism. The debate, I think is not one of extremes, but rather in which direction we should lean and how far.

By the way, China is  starting to liberalize (thank God) and for an asian set of communist that is really starting to crank up its economy, look at Vietnam.


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Capitalism has done wonders for China.


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Posts: 351 | Posted: 12:25 PM on January 11, 2003 | IP
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agreed. As I've said, I don't believe in extremes. There are countries (such as america) that I believe are too capitalist and need to move in a socialist direction. There are nations such as China that are too socialists and need to move in a capitalist direction.


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"If stupidity got us into this mess, why can't it get us out?" -Will Rodgers<br><br><br>"Neither man nor nation can prosper unless in looking at the present, thought is steadily taken for the future." -T. Roosevelt<br><br>"Might I remind you that extremism in the pursuit of liberty is no vice, and moderation in the pursuit of justice, is no virtue." -Barry Goldwater<br><br>

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Argument has just gone away...


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Posts: 351 | Posted: 7:37 PM on January 11, 2003 | IP
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so broker, do you think we need to de-capitalize then?


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Not at the present time.


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Posts: 351 | Posted: 8:56 PM on January 11, 2003 | IP
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It is plausible that any form of government can be successful. However we if look at corruption, it is not our choice of government that has failed us, but the PEOPLE in authority within the government who have betrayed the interest of the people. Regardless if its communism or capitalism if the individual elected remove self or party interest and focused on national issues of the PEOPLE, potentional any form of government will suffice.  
 


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Quote from Broker at 07:49 AM on January 3, 2003 :
Economic motivation is not always why we give money to nations.

The US has forgiven billions of dollars in loans and given billions more with little or no interest. We fund most of the monetary organizations of the world. Does that third world nation do much for us? No, but we still help.


Actually, I think you'll find that relatively the US spends less of it's GDP then practically every western and northern European country. The US - like every other country except for Norway, Sweden, Denmark, the Netherlands and Luxembourg - is also failing to meet the standard it set for itself by giving 0.7 per cent of it's GDP by giving no more than 0.1, so please don't start on how much you give, because as a percentage of what you have it's nothing compared to other nations.

And I think you'll find most third world countries you've aided are also opening their markets for American products, or even allowing their oil to be drilled by your companies ;)


<Edit: Oh, and speaking of problems in left-leaning countries, the Netherlands fall into that category and have a lower unemployment rate than the US>

(Edited by Foeke 1/8/2006 at 07:20 AM).
 


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