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I think they should because if they are dishonest at home, to their own flesh and blood, what makes you think that they will be honest with us?  Take our friend Bill, for example...He cheated on his wife, so why wouldn't he cheat on us??  If they can't respect their marriage vows, why would they respect their office vows? I know thats not what they're called, but you know what I mean.


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Posts: 41 | Posted: 10:54 PM on October 20, 2002 | IP
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no, unless some link is established between personal and office conduct. The fact that Clinton lied about his sex life (and to be honest, i cant blame him, the pressure of admitting to your wife that you've been unfaithful in front of thousands of camaras is insane). If it doesn't relate to the job, keep it out of the public eye.


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Posts: 789 | Posted: 9:21 PM on October 21, 2002 | IP
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yes but bill clinton also lied under oath...isnt that treason on a federal level which is grounds for execution?


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Posts: 451 | Posted: 2:17 PM on October 22, 2002 | IP
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lol...treason? Hardly. At WORST it is perjury in a civil case (although this "case" was a witch hunt to get clinton to lie so they could find a "real" reason to impeach him). But since a civil case is by definition one man's word against another's, perjury in civil cases are almost never proscuted. Otherwise, nearly half of the losing parties of civil suits would be in jail right now.


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Posts: 789 | Posted: 8:14 PM on October 22, 2002 | IP
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kind of off the subject but do you know that treason is the worst crime you can commit by law.


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Posts: 372 | Posted: 03:12 AM on October 23, 2002 | IP
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Bill Clinton blantantly lied to all Americans. Later, he admited he lied. Yet millions still trusted him completely. Why is this?


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Posts: 101 | Posted: 1:19 PM on October 23, 2002 | IP
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i don't trust any politican, and I LIKE Bill Clinton. But that doesn't mean I trust him.
Let's do a bit of weighing here.
Clinton: Lied to America about his sex life (a "crime" half of all american men are guilty of I'm sure)
Reagen: Lied about selling weapons to terrorists.
Hmm...which one was more dangerous?


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Posts: 789 | Posted: 2:47 PM on October 23, 2002 | IP
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As much as I personally hate clinton all he really did was lie so his wife and daughter wouldn't find out and statistically he was a great president.  He just wasn't my type of leader.


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Posts: 372 | Posted: 05:08 AM on October 24, 2002 | IP
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thats very right but on ocasion we should back off i mean how would you like camera crews in your bedroom
 


Posts: 0 | Posted: 11:49 PM on October 24, 2002 | IP
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Clinton lied about his sex life. He had no problems lying to the Amercian public. He said he didn't sell nuclear secrets to China. Should we believe him? He had no problem lying before, why would he now?

By the way, the statistics of the 90's were good, but Clinton in no way did this. In fact, it could have been time of even more economic progress. The reason is because of a technology boom, Clinton could not have hurt our economy if he tried. So, statistacly, Clinton was not a good president.


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Posts: 101 | Posted: 11:04 AM on October 25, 2002 | IP
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once again...lied about sex life vs. lied about selling weapons to terrorists. You make the call.
Not to mention, Clinton policies helped stimulate the economy. I will fully concede a) that the economy runs in cycles and b) that the economy during the 90s was due for an upswing. However, just as Reagons retarded "reagonomics" (read: giving rich people large wads of cash) caused the 80s dip to be alot sharper than it would have been, Clinton's targeted tax cuts (not ones to the rich, but to the middle class) accelerated what would have been a regular bull market into the largest period of expansion in US history.
Clinton lied about his sex life. Whopee. Everyone has lied at some point in their life. At least Clinton lied about something that, in essence, didn't matter. Most people, (and especially most politicians) can't claim the same thing. I don't consider Clinton to be a particularly honest man, far from it. But when it comes down to it, he left office with the country a better place than when he came in. And his faults, while magnified 10000x by the media, still in the grand scheme of things were not all that important.


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Posts: 789 | Posted: 2:48 PM on October 25, 2002 | IP
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first of all the moral issue that stand with clinton and make him a terrible president and second you idiot liberals think that economic booms happen right away. oh clinton was in office and the economy was good so obviously he did it but bush was in for about a month and the economy was bad so it is his fault
you are all idiots it takes time and if it wasn't for reagan and his taxcuts we wouldn't of had such a great economy.

and take a look back in history and see what tax cuts actually work. I will save you the time. the ones to the rich you know why obviously not because your an idiot. it is because when rich people get the money they put it back into the economy and therefore boost the economy and give the poor a better chance at a higher paying job. it isn't the wasteful taxcut to people who won't put it back into the economy
 


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