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I think we should impeach Bush. He has not done what the American people want. He went to war even though there were hundreds of protests against it in the USA and thousands in the rest of the world. When I go to other countries I am almost embarassed to say that I am American. Bush wasn't even elected by the American people. He was selected by the supreme court.
 


Posts: 0 | Posted: 09:58 AM on May 7, 2003 | IP
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Impeach bush huh? Do I even need to say you're being rediculous? Cause I will if it needs to be said. Even at the lowest point of support, bush still had a 60% approval rating for liberating Iraq! And when will you liberals drop the bush being elected issue? it happened FOUR YEARS AGO!!!! (well 3 1/2 but ya know).


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Posts: 112 | Posted: 02:48 AM on May 14, 2003 | IP
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The majority of people did not want to go to war but once we went to war they all supported the troops. They do not necessary support Bush or his ideas, just the USA. Everyone is very patriotic when a country goes to war.
 


Posts: 0 | Posted: 09:12 AM on May 15, 2003 | IP
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Minor problem there Guest- Impeachment occurs when the president has done something illegal, not just because some people don't like him. There's another election coming in the not too far away future (farther away then it seems though....), so, if you're gonna say something against him, wait until the next election. Also, going to war even though not everyone wants it isn't illegal- it just wasn't the best decision.


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Posts: 53 | Posted: 09:12 AM on May 15, 2003 | IP
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Oh, and Guest, don't bother yelling at me... we do sit next to each other in computer class Cora!


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Posts: 53 | Posted: 09:13 AM on May 15, 2003 | IP
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Blew your cover! Ha ha!


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Posts: 53 | Posted: 09:14 AM on May 15, 2003 | IP
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Guest, i think you are right. Bush has not done what the American People want. he si a very bad president!
 


Posts: 0 | Posted: 09:20 AM on May 15, 2003 | IP
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Anyway, Bush has done NOTHING illegal!

[The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors. -Article II, Section 4. US Constitution]


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Posts: 53 | Posted: 09:20 AM on May 15, 2003 | IP
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I'm not saying I like Bush, I really don't. But, he needs to do something against the law before I think he should be impeached!


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Posts: 53 | Posted: 09:21 AM on May 15, 2003 | IP
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Good facts Inu-Yasha Girl

Guest, were you even watching the news? Even at the LOWEST point bush had (I'm saying this again because it's a fact) 60% Approval to liberate Iraq. Here's a question for your consideration: If you were president and you knew what was best for your people, but you're people didn't want it, should you still be able to do it? Now I know you're going to say: but how did that help the american people. So I say to you- LOOK AT THE EVIDENCE. Even the french recanted and said that we did the right thing in liberating Iraq. OF COURSE WE WERE RIGHT!!! People who had been oppressed by Sadam Hussein for like 30 years!!! We're talking parents who couldn't get baby food for their infants, not because it wasn't there but because Sadam Hussein wouldn't sell it!!! There was an Iraqi journalist who was put in prison for 14 years because he sold pictures (nothing even bad) to a british jounalist!!! It's amazing to look at this country now and compare it to our country in the 1940's and 50's. Our entire country was united to stop adolf hitler. Why did we do it? because hitler killed and tortured and oppressed his own people. in 1994 Sadam Hussein used chemical weapons to kill 500,000 of his own poeple who were revolting!!! All throughout his control he's killed kurd's and sheite muslims. He's killed as many or more muslims than all the United states presidents combined. The war in Iraq, wasn't only legal, it was needed. And what happened to all the terrorism we were supposed to see as a result of our liberating Iraq??? No where. you know why? because we sent a very clear message that we're sick of these extremist muslims and if it continues there will be a price to pay. THAT is a message that should have been sent long ago.


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Posts: 112 | Posted: 02:03 AM on May 17, 2003 | IP
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I'm not saying that Saddam Hussein isn't a cruel and ruthless leader but why should the people that he has already treated badly suffer more(i.e. be killed in war)? Why did we just decide that Iraq was a threat when it has been doing this for more than 10 years?


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Posts: 6 | Posted: 09:14 AM on May 19, 2003 | IP
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Quote from lady_aerin at 09:14 AM on May 19, 2003 :
I'm not saying that Saddam Hussein isn't a cruel and ruthless leader but why should the people that he has already treated badly suffer more(i.e. be killed in war)? Why did we just decide that Iraq was a threat when it has been doing this for more than 10 years?


And... this is illegal...how? FOR GOD'S SAKE PEOPLE! I detest Bush, but not liking someone is no reason to say they should be impeached!

Impeaching Bush just on grounds of dislike is as if.... uh... here's an example:

A Judge sees his least favorite classmate from middle school and decides to say he's guilty and put him in jail. If that person is really innocent, the jury says so, they all say so, but the judge says guilty, is he guilty?NO! Going against anyone for impeachment is STUPID with out a fully legal reason!


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Posts: 53 | Posted: 2:07 PM on May 19, 2003 | IP
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I'm not saying that Saddam Hussein isn't a cruel and ruthless leader but why should the people that he has already treated badly suffer more(i.e. be killed in war)?

Good point Lady Aerin, we should let him be ruthless and cruel for another 10 years. Great idea. I mean, who are we to try and bring them a better life. Why haven't we removed Husein in the last ten years. Good question, ask Bill Clinton! I honestly think we need to ship people like you to countries ruled by third world dictators, let you starve for a few years and see if you'd have a problem with the US coming to liberate you. We should have let Adolf Hitler go too probably, I mean after all, how many innocent people lost their lives in World War II? Do you see the dumbassity of what you're saying?


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Posts: 112 | Posted: 4:49 PM on May 19, 2003 | IP
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Bush has done plently illegal, he has lied along with his adminstration of everything about eh WMD in Iraq.  Bush is a liar, a total dictator who does not give a sh=t about anyone but himself
 


Posts: 0 | Posted: 12:09 AM on October 20, 2003 | IP
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It is completley inane to toss Saddam in with the likes of Adolf. Iraq had nowhere near the power that Germany had in Europe in the 30's and they were nowhere near achieving it. It is also flawed to say that the Iraqi people are now better off. The Iraqi's are not only now force to deal with rampant terrorism, but they are also forced to deal with the looming theocracy partly advocated by Grand Ayatolah Sistani. Is the world safer now that Bush is helping to install an Islamic regime in the oil rich nexus of the middle east? I believe that Mr. Bush should be severly reprimanded, possibly impeached for misling his people into a pointless war that cost not only hundreds of billions of dollars, but also cost hundreds of lives. And one more thing, i am growing quite frustrated with conservatives calling liberals with anti-war views anti-american.
 


Posts: 0 | Posted: 11:57 PM on February 6, 2004 | IP
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For the record, if i was old enough to vote, i would vote for Kerry.

To pin our "economic problems" on bush, however, is outrageous. I do not know where in the history books it has taught us that the president has control over everything that takes place in our country...but for some odd reason, every little problem that takes place is pinned on the president. Not just Bush, but whoever....ecspecially by our biased liberal media. I find it fascinating that we look upon the government as though it is a machine that is expected to never make a single mistake. The government is just as faulty as you or I, it is made up of PEOPLE. They are not superhumans, at birth they were not deemed future presidents and senators and governers. They are doing the best damn job that they can do. BECAUSE it is made up of humans, there WILL be corruption. But don't sit back and act like you are so far above it. By nature we are all self seeking idiots. And if you really feel so strongly about how horrible our president is, and how he's trying to "ruin our country", then I suggest you run for office.


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Posts: 2 | Posted: 11:37 AM on August 17, 2004 | IP
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Unfortunately, being an aweful president is not against the law. So Inuyasha was right that there are no legal grounds to impeach Bush.

Stormcrow stormcrow stormcrow....wow. There are a couple major things that your forgetting about. First, you have Iraq being portrayed as a horrible oppressive state where chemicals were used in a major violent riot once, fine. Now, take a look at all the countries in that area, extending into Africa. Iraq is NOT the most opressive country there! Look at Iran, many African countries, and Isreal even. Bush and others (your %60 statistic) just looked at all the Hollywood movies and media, and immediatly identify Iraq as a state of pure evil! Then you compare Saddam to Hitler!?!? Hitler was actively commiting genocide with built camps. Saddam just puts down riots in another manner than ourselves. Methodically killing 6 million Jews is profoundly different than killing 500 thousand rioters. So enough of this Hitler crap, stormcrow. It can't be applied here.

Now, without getting too off topic here, Bush said that if Iraq did not disarm themselfs of WMDs, we would attack. So we sent inspectors, and for months found nothing. Eventually, Bush got fed up and said, 'screw it. I can't find a god excuse to attack them...lets go ahead anyway'.  This isn't just an opinion, its a fact. We were wrong to go into Iraq without due cause. Did everyone just forget about Osama?
 


Posts: 2 | Posted: 12:53 AM on August 24, 2004 | IP
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it is illegal to lie to congress and engage inpre-emptive war against international ruling. this is what bush has done, bush told congress that we had to go to war against iraq and remove saddam because he was linked to al qaeda, violated weapons sanctions, possessed wmds and was an immenent threat to the united states. NONE of those things were true.

now we are saying that we are in iraq to liberate the iraqi people. its a good excuse, but it could never stand in congress as a reason to declare war. bush knew that if he had used that reason in the first place congress would have slammed him for it, so he lied. that is illegal and grounds upon which he can be impeached

furthermore, bush withheld information about the attacks and didnt declare that bin laden was the perpertrator until weeks after 9/11, even though the pentagon knew bin laden was behind those attacks withing 24 hours of 9/11

bush has also lied about going to war to eliminate terror, and about "hunting down terrorists". he has done nothing of the sort. bush has graciouisly allowed bin laden and top taliban leaders to escape afghanistan before he sent his measly 11,000 troops there to hunt them. and while it is public knowledge that al qaeda has branches in syria, egypt, saudi arabia, yemen, oman, lebanon, sudan, jordan, and about a dozen other countries, iraq NOT being one of them, yet bush has seen fit to invade iraq on falsities and has neglected the countries that terrorism thrives

not only that, but bush has lied about making the country safer in every speech he has made since our invasion. the fact is that anti-american hatred, muslim fundamentalism and terrorist organization strengths are ALL increased, and are on an increasing trend. also, because we are spending so much resources in "liberating iraq" we are leaving our own defences at home thin, both for man-power and funds. in the event that another attack occurs, it will seriously cripple our economy to a doomsday-like chaos. and with bin laden on the loose and our intelligence unaware of his whereabouts and plans (just like before 9/11), the possiblity of such an attack occuring is very real

bush has done a lot of illegal stuff in the last few years, not just being a bad president. right now groups around the country are actively working towards impeaching him


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Posts: 6 | Posted: 2:49 PM on November 23, 2004 | IP
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Quote from StormCrow at 02:48 AM on May 14, 2003 :
Impeach bush huh? Do I even need to say you're being rediculous? Cause I will if it needs to be said. Even at the lowest point of support, bush still had a 60% approval rating for liberating Iraq! And when will you liberals drop the bush being elected issue? it happened FOUR YEARS AGO!!!! (well 3 1/2 but ya know).

How about he gets impeached for failing to thouroughly invesigate the evidence before invading a foreign nation. Oh, and I find it sad that you expect us to just "drop it" and accept that Bush is sitting in what is supposed to be Gore's White House.




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Posts: 13 | Posted: 8:23 PM on December 19, 2004 | IP
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My poloitically inclined friends. Is it not a sense of irony that right now as we speak we are speaking a forbidden language? Yes it is true. MY Americans (for that is who YOU are) we are speaking the language of freedom! Yes the diamond in the ruff in a mound of encrusted mounds of political silence pilled for centuries. Friends we are free! It does not matter whom the Commander In Chief is. It matters not His/Her approval rating. It matters not the slanderous propeganda that ensues us in our political thinking. It matters not the out of control Liberal media that shows the horrible atrocities and sacrifise of not only American soldiers but of the Iraqi people as well! It shows not one glimmer of hope not one positive outlook on the war. People you may call me a "Bush Thumper" you may see me as a conservative nuance that burns your mind. I only speak the language we are spreading to the world! ALL AMERICANS SPEAK THIS LANGUAGE. WE MUST COME TOGETHER TO UNITE THIS COUNTRY IN ONE VOICE OF FREEDOM TO SHOUT AT THE OPPRESSORS OF FEREEDOM AND LIBERTY FOR ALL THE WORLD! Stop this mindless bickering and see that there is more to politics than Bush or Iraq or Kerry or 2008. We must look at ourselves and say "How can I make a difference." Americans we MUST see past our petty political parties lines drawn in blood and see to one goal. That freedom remains forever and ongoing endervour to show the world the greatness of not only ourselves as free men, but what we have done with such a priveledge.  


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Posts: 8 | Posted: 01:07 AM on April 26, 2005 | IP
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Not only does President "Brainhole Terrorist" Bush need to be impeached, he also must be tried for "crimes against humanity" in an international court.


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Posts: 68 | Posted: 9:19 PM on June 27, 2005 | IP
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where do you get all this crazy conspiracy theory ideas?


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