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I do not, nor will I ever vote. Quite simply for 2 main reasons.
1: The public living here in this fake democracy have now control over who gets elected. This country was bought and divided up years ago.
2: If you vote, you have no right to complain about politicians. Some people think that if you don't vote, you have no right to complain, but they are stupid. See, if you vote in selfish, lazy, ignorant politicians, then you have voted for them and it's your fault, so YOU have no right to complain. I on the other hand who did not vote, have every right to complain as loud as I want about the mess you've created.
 


Posts: 0 | Posted: 10:36 PM on August 20, 2003 | IP
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I'm going to vote, but i do agree with you.
In the end it doesnt matter what you do.It's all up to whoever the electoral collage likes.Why do we have that system anyways?Why dont we go with the popular vote?


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Posts: 13 | Posted: 10:22 PM on December 16, 2003 | IP
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ok.. this has got to be one of the most ignorant statements i have heard in a longg time.  First off how do u or anyone else who constantly complain about our government ever expect anything to change if you don't vote..  what gives you the right to complain is if u voted for someone actually better rather than voting for the lesser of two evils.  You can actually have an effect if you stop sitting on your ass complaining on blogs.


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Posts: 6 | Posted: 5:42 PM on May 8, 2008 | IP
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Oh, Davidownsu, wake up man. If you care about something, you  work at it everyday, not vote for it one day a year. americans like you are foolish to think that casting a ballot every now and then will make any real difference in this country.

I don't vote because politicians all sing and dance the same tune. I work everyday to help more people out of the ruts they are stuck in, so that this country might actually become a home for a family as it was once hoped to be.


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Posts: 163 | Posted: 10:56 PM on May 8, 2008 | IP
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I'm a Brit, but I vote in the UK elections when they come around - not because I think it'll make things better, but because I think it might stop things from getting worse. The US voting system does seem to be a lot more popularity-based than that of the UK, though...


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Posts: 81 | Posted: 8:30 PM on May 11, 2008 | IP
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Iangb, what do you mean about the US voting system seeming to be a lot more popularity-based than that of the UK? I don't mean to say it isn't (I am unsure), I'm just curious as to how you have made this observation. Is there something about being popularity-based that may be useful in determining how voting in the U.S. has become such a failed practice?

If I hazard to guess, you might be saying that people are more inclined to vote in the U.S. if it is the popular thing to do, i.e. an individual is more inclined to act with regards to voting as their friends, family, or community members generally favor; if this is what you mean by popularity-based, I agree.

There are many people providing reasons for statutory U.S. citizens not to vote; is their reasoning invalid? Is it really worth while to mitigate suffering (stop things from 'getting worse') by maintaining the social orders that are both the cause and cure for all social so-called problems? Or have I jumped the gun by saying that government is the cause of all social unrest that it attempts to eliminate?


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Posts: 163 | Posted: 9:25 PM on May 17, 2008 | IP
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If I hazard to guess, you might be saying that people are more inclined to vote in the U.S. if it is the popular thing to do, i.e. an individual is more inclined to act with regards to voting as their friends, family, or community members generally favor; if this is what you mean by popularity-based, I agree.
Partially.

I guess I could have meant a bunch of things, I can't remember which one specifically. To expand...

Voting is more popular in the USA. In the UK, more people voted in the last 'X-Factor' (trashy 'Simon Cowell and friends find the best singers' competition) grand final than in the last general election. In the US however, it seems that there is a much higher percentage turnout to vote (although this could be wrong). If the reason that you vote is that 'all your friends are doing it', the reason that you vote for specific candidate X is also more likely to be 'all your friends are doing it'. Thus the main focus in the US elections seems to be character profiling and candidate likeability, not their policy decisions or political talent, although I guess you could argue that personality has something to do with that.

I would argue that people should only vote if they feel that their candidate would do a better job of running the country than anyone else, not because 'he sounds like a nice young man' or 'I want to prove to my friends that I'm not a sexist'. If that results in lower voter turnout, so be it, but at least there would then be some worth in voting for those who actually care, secure in the knowledge that their candidate isn't going to be simply swept away because the opposing side had a superior ad campaign.

I don't think that the government is the cause for all social problems. I think that it takes a fair amount of the blame, but so equally do big businesses, religious fanaticism, blind prejudices and all people in general. It's no good changing the law if people are determined to break it, just as it's no use (for example) developing alternative energy sources if there isn't the legislation to support their use.


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Posts: 81 | Posted: 9:58 PM on May 17, 2008 | IP
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Quote from Guest at 10:36 PM on August 20, 2003 :
I do not, nor will I ever vote. Quite simply for 2 main reasons.
1: The public living here in this fake democracy have now control over who gets elected. This country was bought and divided up years ago.
2: If you vote, you have no right to complain about politicians. Some people think that if you don't vote, you have no right to complain, but they are stupid. See, if you vote in selfish, lazy, ignorant politicians, then you have voted for them and it's your fault, so YOU have no right to complain. I on the other hand who did not vote, have every right to complain as loud as I want about the mess you've created.



We live in a representative republic, not a democratic country.


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Posts: 681 | Posted: 6:22 PM on May 27, 2008 | IP
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This could be your problem...


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Posts: 81 | Posted: 7:35 PM on May 27, 2008 | IP
    
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