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1. We are free to choose.
2. If we are free to choose someone cannot  predict our behaviour ahead of time with complete accuracy. We can always change our course of action at the last moment.
3. Therefore, God cannot predict our behaviour ahead of time with complete accuracy.
4. God is not all knowing.

(Edited by gunmyths 1/25/2003 at 3:02 PM).
 


Posts: 60 | Posted: 3:01 PM on January 25, 2003 | IP
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your second premise is false. it is possible for someone to be able to predict our behavior ahead of time, despite the fact that we can change our course of action at the last moment. i realize that this is an opinion. but it is a possibility. if your second premise is indeed false, then your entire argument is unsound.


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God is not bound by time or space, correct? Therefore, he has seen all that has happened on earth already. He has already "seen us" go to do something and then change our minds. It's sorta like pulling a video out of your cabinet that you've already seen dozens of times, but that you like to watch just for the fun of it.

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God knows exactly what happens in the end, He has declared it in the Scriptures. That doesn't mean that everything that happens is what He wanted to happen. He declares that it is His will that all should be saved, but not all will be. Without freedom of choice we could not have a love relationship, we would be like robots with no passion. How can you reward someone when they had no choice but to do what they did?! We all have freedom of choice, threfore we should choose to live for Christ!!
 


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you guys are not answering the question, at least for me.  how in the world, if God is all loving, allow his son/daughters to choose hell?!  cause if i had a daughter or son i would not let her just die!! also!!! if God told a group of people to write the bible cause i choose you guys to do it, id putting things like "oohh god is all powerful, all knowing"  put things like that.  so basically there is a POSIBILITY that hte bible can have false things in it.  
 


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Every bible I have read claims that god ia all knowing. but, can that be true. How can an all Knowing god flood a world of his own creation when god all knowingly knew we would be this way,

Every step I take is new to me but is expected of me by god so, if my soul is lost or saved now it was so at the beginning of my birth and i am just walking down a path preordained.

Do we really have a choice? Can we change our path? but then again he knew we would.

 


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Yes, God is all knowing. (did you notice how beautifully He told us about how Israel would be re-established thousands of years before it happened?)  



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"God knows exactly what happens in the end, He has declared it in the Scriptures. That doesn't mean that everything that happens is what He wanted to happen."


According to your logic, something goes different from the way god wanted it. Therefore, this god shows he is powerless to anything about it.


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No, actually it shows that man is capable of going against the will of God.  I thought we covered this.


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OK. It shows that man is capable of going against (the will of) god.

If that is the case then your other argument, that man has free will, but cannot make up a code of justice for himself without relying on on any god falls apart.

Why didn't god just squish adam and eve back in the mud and try again once they decided to do as they wished.?

This fairy tale gets better all the time.



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Didn't say he couldn't.  I just asked you where you thought he got his idea of "right and wrong" from.  The point is... the fact that nations other than Israel managed to come up with a code of laws closely following the morals of Israel in no way undermines the history of the Jews.  In fact, it supports it.


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Man has the ability to think critically, although apparently this is not a feature everyone is endowed with (no offense meant).

You only assume man is following the "morals" of Israel, because for you it seems history starts there. Well it goes alot further back, and man had rules about social order before he invented gods. This is shown by the archeological evidence that shows order in areas where ancient man existed. That order is a social order. Probably very likely to be based on who hunted and who ate.

That's a big assumption when man was around alot longer than than any group of people advanced enough to call themselves a tribe or a Jew.


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