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Who is God? Is God black, white, male, female, or a hermaphrodite? I know that God is usually referred to as "He," but, is that really true anymore? It seems it may have made alot more sense when men were considered to be above women that they would call God a him, but now, with equal rights, can we really call God a male? Doesn't that seem to put men above women buy suggesting God is a he? Also, isn't it racist that many people view him as a *white male?* God could be anything! For pete's sake, how 'bout an ameoba? After all, if evolutionism is taken into account, wasn't the first living organism an ameoba like life form which kept splitting, and all life evolved from first? Anyone got any insights for my poor, confused mind?


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Posts: 53 | Posted: 11:24 AM on May 11, 2003 | IP
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hi, take a look at john 4:24 that may help a bit, notice it say that God is a sprit, not human.

“Women around the country have been telling fellow worshipers that it bothers them to use exclusively male language (‘Our Father who art in Heaven’) in worship services,” reports the Minneapolis Star and Tribune. “It makes them feel like second-class citizens, the women say, and they can’t relate to a male deity.” Supporting the issue, the administrative board of the United Methodist Church in Minneapolis, Minnesota, U.S.A., voted in favor of a new list of expressions to be used by parishioners when referring to God during prayer, worship services, and other church activities.

Some nongender expressions prepared by the church board are “source of peace, source of mercy, steadfast and loving one, strength of our life, . . . mind of the universe, . . . high and holy one.” Use of these expressions will be encouraged as an alternative to male pronouns as well as terms like Lord, King, and Father, which ascribe masculinity to God.

However, rejecting the Biblical use of masculine references to God is without precedent. Shortly before his death, Jesus, God’s only-begotten Son, specifically used the Aramaic word Abba, meaning “Father,” when praying to Jehovah God. (Mark 14:36) Similarly, the apostle Paul used this word to convey the intimate relationship between spirit-anointed Christians and their heavenly Father, Jehovah. (Romans 8:15; Galatians 4:6) If, therefore, Jesus taught his disciples to pray saying, “Our Father in the heavens,” should not all Christians today do the same?—Matthew 6:9.

 


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i think the anser to ho god is?
shows in the rites of trinety
the fader son & holy spirit.
compared whith the human brain
fater left side son right side & between dem the spirit
the cabalistic tree i gess is a map of the brain
 


Posts: 0 | Posted: 5:35 PM on May 14, 2003 | IP
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Greetings Inu Yasha Girl- it's a pleasure to speak with you again. I hope this post will offer a little bit of insight into how christians view God (I say christians because I cannot speak on behalf of things i know nothing about, but it sounds to me as if you're speaking of the God presented in the christian bible).

I know that God is usually referred to as "He," but, is that really true anymore?

Firstly let me say this- in order to best understand God as christians view Him you have to believe that He has always been, is and will always be. "I am the alpha and the omega, the begining and the end." (Revelations). We relate God to things that we see because, well let's be honest, that's the easiest way to understand something that we cannot see. But this is alittle aside from the point. In the book of Genisis it says that god created "man in his image" or in some versions "likeness is used." Of course God has no actual gender. I don't think He has a penis, or a vagina or anything that we would identify as a sexual organ, as God does not reproduce. In fact, God isn't even something physical, he's something spiritual. Which means he's obviously not a hermaphrodite.

It seems it may have made alot more sense when men were considered to be above women that they would call God a him, but now, with equal rights, can we really call God a male?

According to the bible, God created women as companions for men, and of them. It says in the bible that God took one of Adam's ribs and used it to create Eve. Nowhere in the bible does it say that women are less then men. It says wives should be obedient to their husbands, and that is the duty of husbands to treat their wives justly, and love them and cherrish them and take care of them. God isn't subject to "equal rights" being a devine being, obviously no one is "equal" to Him. The First guest makes a good point, it's based alot on the metaphorical relationship of Father-Child that we have in a family. Especially when you look back at the way Fathers in the middle east used to act in the time of the bible and even still today. It is the father who is responsible for teaching the child, providing for the child and helping the child start his life. But please, do not be offended by people calling God "Him" "Father" "Lord" or anything else that would denote a masculine physicalnes. He is beyond gender.

Also, isn't it racist that many people view him as a *white male?* God could be anything!

God is everything! God doesn't have a race at all. I suppose if you had to define him as a race it would be "divine." Most people don't define God as white, it's usually Jesus who's color is debated. Historically, he would have been arabian. He was after all born of the tribe of Judah. If you look at the color of the people of the country of Isreal, I suppose he would be about that color (maybe a little more sun tanned, cause he was always outside, preaching, healing the sick and walking to different towns).

if evolutionism is taken into account, wasn't the first living organism an ameoba like life form which kept splitting, and all life evolved from first?

so let me ask you, how did this first living organism come to be? If you haven't already, you will learn in biology class that life can only come from other life. So either, life has always been, or something outside of our natural laws set something in motion. On that note, remember that the bible (espeicailly the old testement) is repleat with metaphor and the like. It was after all originally passed down as oral tradition before being written in text form. I for one look at the world around us, it's an entirely self suffiecient system. I believe that God created it that way. By that line of thinking, it would make sense that he put in motion the steps of creation, thus resulting in our intricate, and ultimately perfect biosphere. I hope this helped and feel free to ask more questions via private message or here on the thread.


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Posts: 112 | Posted: 02:55 AM on May 17, 2003 | IP
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Quote from StormCrow at 02:55 AM on May 17, 2003 :

so let me ask you, how did this first living organism come to be? If you haven't already, you will learn in biology class that life can only come from other life. So either, life has always been, or something outside of our natural laws set something in motion.


Crud... I forgot about that....




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I think that the first organism evolved from organisms and bacteria already in the atmosphere and water on earth and then evolved into different animals over the course of time. I don't think that there is a god because we have no proof that there is.
 


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We have no proof that there isn't, either! I'm not religious, but I'm not a total athiest! I'm just a very confused girl in question!


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Posts: 53 | Posted: 2:10 PM on May 19, 2003 | IP
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Hello to you 2 StormCrow!

According to the bible, God created women as companions for men, and of them.

That sounds almost as if women were created to be pets! Maybe I'm just reading it wrong though....


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Posts: 53 | Posted: 2:13 PM on May 19, 2003 | IP
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You are reading it wrong. It's not in any way degrading. Although, due to modern liberal feminism I can understand why women get all up tight about it. Let me tell you what I think of women. They're awesome. They are more beautiful than any flower or any sunset, or any mountain backdrop ever photographed or painted. Men cannot survive without them. That's what's going on there in revelations. Men cannot live alone, they NEED women. Women complete us and we complete them. It's total partner ship. If God would have created women first, and men as their companions, I would be just as content with that. Where most females (especially in todays day and age) get all worked up is when it talks about the roles of men, and the roles of women. They say...."why can't a woman do everything a man can do?" and I say to you "because they are not men. For the same reason, men cannot do everything a woman can do." I take for example, child bearing. Women are designed specifically for it. They are mentally more designed to tend to a child. Studies have shown that a mother can select her own newborn baby from a crowd of newborns, simply on by it's crying. Another test shows that mothers instinctively know when they're baby is crying about 70% of the time even when they can't hear it. I don't see how feminists get all offended because that's what they're gender is good at. Do I relish in the fact that my muscular build makes me more suitable to manual labor? Not even a little. But knowing that it's what I'm more suited to than my girlfriend, I'd be willing to do it (and happily) to ensure her survival. Do you see what I'm getting at? Men and women are different, there's nothing wrong with that. The fact is we're perfectly complimentary. What skills one lacks, the other possess.


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now that we've discussed the topic of the thread let me respond to the guest.

I think that the first organism evolved from organisms and bacteria already in the atmosphere and water on earth

Either go to, or go back to biology class. All life comes from other life. So unless you're suggesting that life (and thus earth) have always existed, you are spewing idiocy. Life had to have started somewhere, with something. Be it the proverbial chicken, or the proverbial egg, it's irrelivant, If neither existed how did the first chicken or egg come to be.


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Dude... are you trying for an english major?! If you aren't....you really should!

Let me tell you what I think of women. They're awesome. They are more beautiful than any flower or any sunset, or any mountain backdrop ever photographed or painted. Men cannot survive without them.

Hmmmm... I like that idea...

Where most females (especially in todays day and age) get all worked up is when it talks about the roles of men, and the roles of women. They say...."why can't a woman do everything a man can do?" and I say to you "because they are not men.

That's true....

Studies have shown that a mother can select her own newborn baby from a crowd of newborns, simply on by it's crying. Another test shows that mothers instinctively know when they're baby is crying about 70% of the time even when they can't hear it. I don't see how feminists get all offended because that's what they're gender is good at. Do I relish in the fact that my muscular build makes me more suitable to manual labor? Not even a little. But knowing that it's what I'm more suited to than my girlfriend, I'd be willing to do it (and happily) to ensure her survival. Do you see what I'm getting at? Men and women are different, there's nothing wrong with that. The fact is we're perfectly complimentary. What skills one lacks, the other possess.

You know.... you just adressed my biggest pet peeve- the muscular build thing. I get so sick of looking at track times and seeing boys always come out on top. I know it's because their body structure is different from a  woman's, but.... it still does get annoying!

Are mothers psychic or something?! 70% of the time? Find their kids in a crowd just by their cries.... wow....


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bacteria is life and can evolve into larger and more complex life.  


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Lady Aerin, yes bacteria is life, but it also reproduces. Bacteria doesn't spontaneously grow from nothingness.

Inu Yasha Girl- I've considered an english major alot, it was my original idea, but I've decided to focus on buisness instead, I'll probably end up minoring in english lit though. About the importance of women, it's true, I firmly believe that a man cannot fullfill his potential without a woman beside him, and vice versa. It's the fact that they compliment each other so well. Concerning your pet peeve- don't worry so much about it. I know tons of girls who are way faster than me. The mothers thing, I can't explain, I supose pyscic is one way to put it, just sort of an empathic link between the two that's entirely uncanny.


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Hello Inu-Yasha-Girl

I read your original post. I too was a confused mind until I was able to see proof that GOD exists. Now, the confusion is gone. There is, in fact, physical proof of the existence of GOD and that all the religious scriptures are from GOD. This evidence can be verified by anybody at anytime. If you wish to see it for yourself click here.
Peace
 


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I don't know if god has a colour, but wat i do no is that he is all powerful and that he loves u all very much.


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What if creation wasn't real and he didn't love us all very much? Could you ever imagine this? No, because I am thinking you might be brainwashed. Now I wont nag on that one because you can't illustrate to the blind.
I don't follow anyone... except my own version of who my God is. The surprise of meeting someone after I die will be lovely. If it does Happen to be jesus christ my first line will be... eeeeooowch. They were right! Sorry brother!


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