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There is no such thing as Sexual Immorality.
If it gives you pleasure why not.
 


Posts: 8 | Posted: 2:27 PM on October 9, 2005 | IP
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Did someone say Sexual Imortality?

OK, that would be me.

-Gosh


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Posts: 95 | Posted: 12:48 AM on January 17, 2006 | IP
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So basically your saying it doesn't matter if we cheat on our girlfriends/wives/spouses as long as it gives you pleasure?


That is a load of bullshit.

And I bet your saying that 'hey were 18 lets go out and have sex with tons of ladies without a care in the world'.

Do you know how idiotic and immature you sound?
 


Posts: 27 | Posted: 5:24 PM on March 8, 2008 | IP
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List of Sexual Immoralities

Rape

Cheating on spouse/girlfriend/fiance

Sexual touching

Pedophilia

Sexual harrassment



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Posts: 68 | Posted: 04:34 AM on March 9, 2008 | IP
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Masterphillip is correct, there is no such thing as sexual immorality.

Morality is an artifact of consciousness.


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Posts: 163 | Posted: 3:12 PM on March 10, 2008 | IP
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Oh?  No sexual immorality, huh?  I guess it's ok to give TONS OF DIFFERENT PEOPLE STDS HUH JACKASS???!!!


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Posts: 68 | Posted: 11:08 PM on March 15, 2008 | IP
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I guess, if you have an STD to give, more power to you ;-)


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Posts: 163 | Posted: 4:55 PM on March 16, 2008 | IP
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Actually, Masterphillip and forfun, you are both wrong. This can be taken from two sides, and both ways have the same answer, that answer being that there is sexual immorality, and is thus wrong.

The first side is the one of religion, which is the purpose for this very thread, and according to the Bible, God speaks out on sexual immorality many times. So, if you believe, you would not be inclined to do that which the Lord of all creation said not to. And if God said it is wrong and you do it, that is immoral.

The second way, and the way i guess both of you would have an easier time understanding, is basing it completely off the definition of immorality. Which is, "violating moral principles; not conforming to the patterns of conduct usually accepted or established as consistent with principles of personal and social ethics." Which can be easily seen to say, "breaking the morals of society today." We all know that society today does not condone rape, pedophilia, cheating, and the like. So, going by this, we can conclude that it would be immoral to do so.

Either way, immorality is real, and in our society today, it abounds. To say otherwise is to be ignorant, and i say that not to be disrespectful, but to maybe open your eyes.


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Morality is an artifact of consciousness.


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Posts: 163 | Posted: 5:40 PM on March 17, 2008 | IP
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That, in no way, combats my logic. Matter-of-fact, it only goes to prove your own ignorance. In your conviction as well as your word choice.

To say artifact would infer that it is something that is no longer around, something that is left behind in an ever growing society(In this case it would be your own mind). That is just foolish, considering morals are still wide spread to just about everyone on earth.

Please post something of merit, or don't waste any reader's time, not to mention my own.

(Edited by Redeemer 4/1/2008 at 01:04 AM).


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Posts: 3 | Posted: 11:57 PM on March 29, 2008 | IP
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Artifact: Something viewed as a product of human conception or agency rather than an inherent element.




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Posts: 163 | Posted: 5:58 PM on March 30, 2008 | IP
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This still does nothing in help of your view. My first post in this thread still stands to destroy your debate, and your apparent inability to back your own words strengthens this.


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Posts: 3 | Posted: 01:11 AM on April 1, 2008 | IP
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sweet.

Wake-up, open your eyes, and see; all this nonsense about morality is in your head. Are you alive, or just another senseless human?




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Posts: 163 | Posted: 4:26 PM on April 1, 2008 | IP
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Quote from forfunt1 at 4:26 PM on April 1, 2008 :
sweet.

Wake-up, open your eyes, and see; all this nonsense about morality is in your head. Are you alive, or just another senseless human?





Oh, sure, getting a bunch of your best buddies wives and girlfriends pregnant, rape, pedophilia, and stuff like that is ok, right?  Well how the hell would YOU like it if your wife was doing your friend, then she got raped and your kid got molested?  I'd bet you'd change your pathetic tune then, jerk.


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Posts: 68 | Posted: 9:11 PM on April 6, 2008 | IP
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Wow, you really are a lost and angry person.

Can you see the difference between wrong and right? Maybe, someday, when you can answer this question honestly, you will come-out of your stupor.


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Posts: 163 | Posted: 10:13 PM on April 6, 2008 | IP
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Apparently, you are lost if you say that it's ok to do these things.


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Posts: 68 | Posted: 9:19 PM on April 7, 2008 | IP
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Ethmi, honestly, are you capable of understanding what you read?


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Posts: 163 | Posted: 9:50 PM on April 7, 2008 | IP
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forfunt1: Are you concious? I can only assume the answer is yes. This means that your mind is producing artefacts such as morality, love, a sense of beauty all the time. Sure, you can ignore said artefacts, if you choose to, but that doesn't mean they aren't there. When you experience a 'feeling'; be it emotional or direct (a sense of being hot, for example), that too (the quale) is an artefact. That's much harder to ignore.

Just because it's an artefact doesn't mean it isn't real. Or, that is, as real as matters to you.
*appropriate signature quote*

EDIT: Yes, there is no absolute morality. But everyone has their own instinctive morality, regardless of how 'real' a moral actually is.

(Edited by iangb 4/10/2008 at 11:35 PM).


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Posts: 81 | Posted: 11:32 PM on April 10, 2008 | IP
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Morality is not instinctual. When something is made by the mind, it is  nowhere other then in the mind.

Morality is the qualified or quantified product of an intellectual process designed to negotiate the reasonable terms of right and wrong via rules derived of consensus thought, for the purpose of imposing the orders of conventional terms onto the actions of willing individuals. There is no natural element-present, or natural sense-at-work for the duration of any moment in which morality rule is functioning or forming because the setting in which this formation and function takes place is entirely conceived of by mind in a current state of retrospect.

The concept of consciousness may be considered the first artifact making the allowance for the formation and function of all other artifacts, and so the label 'artifact of consciousness' would seem redundant. However, if consciousness is actually rooted in the common sense, or unifying characteristic of life or living, then the label serves the purpose of acknowledging the possibility that every living mind will remember living in a unique way by virtue of unique perspective, and the formation and function of concepts in these individual minds will reflect on such conditions of individuality.

Morality is an attempt to negotiate the variable form and function of individual concepts of intellectual rule and order, into one(s) that may serve as a collective or social compromise. Once a social standard concept for wrong or right is derived from consensus, it will then be reasonably expected as proper for students of collective reason to be educated of in order to maintain the order from/by which it was derived.

Morality is just one of the many tricks used to brainwash people into surrendering their present-sense for reasons to expect consistent or somehow marginally-certain rule and order by consensus mind.

Morality is not an aspect of the self, as actually affirmed or opposed by an other or real-outside agent, because the agency of the moral self is a product of intellectual-retrospect, and has no natural-root or relative-form.

(Edited by forfunt1 4/16/2008 at 10:06 PM).


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Posts: 163 | Posted: 5:47 PM on April 11, 2008 | IP
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Quote from forfunt1 at 9:50 PM on April 7, 2008 :
Ethmi, honestly, are you capable of understanding what you read?



Yes, I am, but obviously you're not.




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Posts: 68 | Posted: 10:25 PM on April 12, 2008 | IP
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I'm rubber, you're glue ;-)

Anyway...


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Posts: 163 | Posted: 4:14 PM on April 14, 2008 | IP
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I will make only one response to this topic. While I do acknowledge that morality is based apon an artificial sociological whim, that sociological whim is necessary to maintain a stable group of people in close proximity of one another. This is the same reason that murder is condemned by morality, as well is animal cruelty. I have nothing more to say.


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Posts: 681 | Posted: 9:22 PM on April 14, 2008 | IP
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So, I guess there's nothing wrong with cheating on your wife, raping women, and molesting children as long as you get pleasure from it, huh?


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Posts: 38 | Posted: 03:37 AM on May 25, 2008 | IP
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Hey Jabba, go please yourself man. If you have to ask dumb questions like this, you might as well do something useful that keeps your hands too busy for typing.


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Posts: 163 | Posted: 5:13 PM on May 26, 2008 | IP
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Quote from forfunt1 at 5:13 PM on May 26, 2008 :
Hey Jabba, go please yourself man. If you have to ask dumb questions like this, you might as well do something useful that keeps your hands too busy for typing.


Can you please come up with a response that actually shows intelligence?


You have just proved that you don't have the intelligence to say anything else.



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Posts: 38 | Posted: 9:34 PM on May 26, 2008 | IP
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How about we just agree that each of us is just as stupid as the other?


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Posts: 163 | Posted: 11:00 PM on May 28, 2008 | IP
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How about you come up with an actual response rather than evading trying to answer?


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