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God's Chosen People? You Mean Pharisees?






“The spread of a modified Pharisaism to the ends of the earth has fortunately not prevented the endurance throughout the centuries of the unchanged faith, in Rabbinic Judaism, Pharisaism became Talmudism, Talmudism became Medieval Rabbinism, and Medieval Rabbinism became Modern Rabbinism.  But throughout these changes of name, inevitable adaption of custom, and adjustments of Law, the spirit of the ancient Pharisee survives unaltered. When the Jew reads his prayers, he is reciting formulae prepared by pre-Maccabean scholars; when he dons the cloak prescribed for the Day of of Atonement and Passover Eve, he is wearing the festival garment of ancient Jerusalem; when he studies the Talmud, he is actually repeating the arguments used in Palestine academies.”

The Pharisees: The Sociological Background of Their Faith by Louis Finkelstein. Provost and Solomon Schechter Professor of Theology at the Jewish Theological Seminary of America. Volume #1. Philadelphia, The Jewish Publication Society of America, 1938. Pages xx-xxi.

Conversely, the follower of the prophet gave way to the Hasid, and the latter was succeeded by the Pharisee. When Pharisaism became practically synonymous with Judaism, the divisive forces made themselves felt within it, and there arose the two factions of Shammaites and Hillelites to struggle for the control of the party.

The Pharisees: The Sociological Background of Their Faith by Louis Finkelstein. Provost and Solomon Schechter Professor of Theology at the Jewish Theological Seminary of America. Volume #1. Philadelphia, The Jewish Publication Society of America, 1938. Page 3.

And yet the essential unity of the Pharisaic interpretation of the Law has been preserved. Bitter controversies have arisen between different communities, and also between individuals, with regard to the correct interpretation of the Law.  But rabbinic Judaism, the first born child of Pharisaism, remains a unit until this day.

The Pharisees: The Sociological Background of Their Faith by Louis Finkelstein. Provost and Solomon Schechter Professor of Theology at the Jewish Theological Seminary of America. Volume #2. Philadelphia, The Jewish Publication Society of America, 1938. Page 622.

It was by this mode of common consent - expressed in no formal vote or plebiscite – but simply spreading among the teachers and the people, that the Babylonian Talmud has been accepted as more authoritative that that of Palestine; that such teachers as Rabbenu Gershom (1013-1103), Maimonides (1135-1204) and Caro (1488-1575) became definitive interpreters of rabbinic Judaism. Perhaps the latest in the long chain of teachers who have given form to rabbinic Judaism in each generation was that famous scholar -statesman Isaac Elhanan Spektor (1817-1896), the rabbi of Kowono, in Lithuania, during the latter part of the nineteenth century.

The Pharisees: The Sociological Background of Their Faith by Louis Finkelstein. Provost and Solomon Schechter Professor of Theology at the Jewish Theological Seminary of America. Volume #2. Philadelphia, The Jewish Publication Society of America, 1938. Page 623.





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Posts: 196 | Posted: 11:01 AM on November 16, 2005 | IP
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Don't know about "chosen" but I know that the Egyptians can make an argument for being "God's people".   Isaiah 19:25


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Posts: 1287 | Posted: 2:51 PM on January 6, 2006 | IP
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Hmmm. Well, I personally wouldn't ascirbe to a god that creates 10 billion people, but only chooses one group. Not only is the idea totally out the window for a so called loving god, but it's racist.


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Posts: 95 | Posted: 10:26 AM on January 15, 2006 | IP
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The term chosen referred to being the chosen people through whom the prophecy would be fulfilled.  Abram was told that his seed (singular) would bless ALL the nations.  Time and time again, the bible says that "God is no respecter of persons".  God looks at the heart, not the skin color.  Wish more people were like Him.


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Posts: 1287 | Posted: 2:19 PM on January 15, 2006 | IP
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Hmmm. Time and time again this god chooses his people to literally exterminate entire populations. It's not only a racist god, he's also a genocide practicing god.


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Posts: 95 | Posted: 2:33 PM on January 15, 2006 | IP
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You mean does a just God punish the wicked?


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It depends on what you consider "wicked".

If you think it was wicked that other people that probably never heard of the Jews, served their own polythiestic  gods, and because of that the Jews exterminated them (because god told them too). Then I guess the Islamic Fundamentalist that flew the jets into the world trade center and pentagon were simply punishing the wicked as well.

Basically, you are using this same logic to justify large scale murder.


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Posts: 95 | Posted: 3:40 PM on January 15, 2006 | IP
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Not at all.  The other nation's branched off of Noah's line.  They chose to worship idols.  It's obvious in the Scriptures that they had heard of the Jews.  Had heard of God.  And still chose to ignore Him.  Many of these "innocents" you spoke of practiced abominable things.  They sacrificed their children.  They practiced canibalism.  Do you really think they would've left the Jews in peace?


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If I told you my god said your actions of posting on this board were abomidible, would you believe me?

Should the U.S. try to enforce your gods will and kill everyone who doesn't believe?

I think not. Just because you hear something doesn't mean it's true. Especially when there is zip evidence.

I'd like to see your all powerful god make his presence known and come and do his own dirty work instead of having human beings do it.

Why won't he? Because Myths cannot kill people.
People kill people, and those who do are wrong. It doesn't matter whether god told you to or not. He's sure not going to show up at trial in your defense.


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Posts: 95 | Posted: 5:33 PM on January 15, 2006 | IP
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And about this noah guy. You mean to tell me he got about 3 billion species in a boat that was 450 ft long by 75 ft wide, by 45 feet high?

That's like cramming 2 of every species in a space the size of a small football stadium. It's not only outrageous...It's impossible. Besides Alligators like Hippo.


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Posts: 95 | Posted: 6:04 PM on January 15, 2006 | IP
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Yeah, next you'll be telling me that there are these tiny things called germs which I can't see with my naked eye that are crawling all over the place.  The things some people think up.


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Posts: 1287 | Posted: 9:33 PM on January 15, 2006 | IP
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Did noah also take on board single celled animals?

Did he put them in Petri dishes?

Did he take anthrax spores on board? What about al the viruses. What about tenail fungus?





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Don't make me sic my god on you!
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