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In Revelation the mark on the right hand is a way of living founded in ancient Babylon by Nimrod.  It is the internalization of the belief that to follow God (to follow Christ and "bear one's cross") is to sacrifice one's innocency in service to others.  It is the full internalization of the gospel of works.  Those with this mark believe that Christ endured more than intense physical suffering and shame on the cross.  They privately believe that Christ was spiritually darkened on the cross and therefore spiritually separated from the father.  This is contrary to Jesus's own teachings.  In John chapter 8, Jesus informed the hard-hearted Jews that he must "go his way" to the crucifixion and that they would seek him but not find him (neither physically nor spiritually).  The Jews reasoned that he was going to escape somewhere or commit suicide to be "alone."  Jesus pointedly tells them that he is never alone, because he always does those things which please the father, including his crucifixion:

Then said Jesus unto them: when ye have lift up on high the son of man, then shall ye know that I am he, and that I do nothing of myself: but as my father hath taught me, even so I speak: and he that sent me, is with me. The father hath not left me alone, for I do always those things that please him.

When Jesus cried, "father, father, why hast thou forsaken me," he merely expressed his anguish that God allowed him to be treated so shamefully.  The father was and always will be with Jesus because "I and my father are one" (John 10:30), "I am in the father and the father in me" (John 14:11), and "the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the father" (John 1:18).  Jesus and the father are one inseparable spirit, one God.  God cannot deny himself.  Jesus was never cut off from his own spirit.  To believe otherwise is an abomination.

Jesus's sacrifice is infinitely worthy because Jesus, the extension and image of God the father, is infinitely righteous.  Someone infinitely righteous treated in so lowly a manner as crucifixion has infinite value as a work of God.  To believe that Jesus experienced a darkening of his spirit on the cross is to attack his necessary eternal righteousness which is the righteousness of God.  The true understanding of "bearing one's cross" is to suffer in the world because one loves meekness and truth.  The counterfeit understanding (which leads to the mark of the right hand) is to partake of sin and darkness in order to bear up one's place in the world through "works."  The counterfeit does not follow Christ but Nimrod, the father of justification or salvation through one's own works.  Jesus defines the real work of God: "this is the work of God that ye believe on him whom he hath sent" (John 6:29).  Jesus accomplished his "work of the cross" by resting in the spirit of the father and the power of the Holy Ghost.  Jesus did not use his will to grind his way through the cross.  The counterfeit Christ symbolically describes Nimrod who pushed his own will to "sacrifice himself" to death.  In reality he met a violent death for creating a world-wide system of idolatry.  Jesus rested in the father's will while bearing his cross; we must rest in the will of God while bearing our cross.  This means avoiding or leaving situations that compromise our spirit of rest.  

The mark on the head is a way of thinking and living.  It was followed by one of Nimrod's disciples, his wife Semiramis, after his death as a way to secretly propagate and enhance Nimrod's teachings.  It represents the full internalization of the belief that to follow God, to follow Christ, is to help maintain a system of graduated levels of supposed meanings of sacred writings.  In this belief system all sacred writings, including the gospels, contain different meanings depending on the spiritual level of the person.  The meaning for the "more spiritual" person is different from the meaning for the masses.  The specific meaning of the different readings of the sacred texts makes no difference.  This belief implies that God is a deceiver, a liar.  If scripture is God's truth, and this truth varies based on the observer (the "higher level meaning" versus the "plain meaning"), then absolute truth does not exist (God does not exist).  This is the bottomless pit of darkness which Satan through Nimrod started and maintains.  Light cannot penetrate it.

Both marks are based in the gospel of works begun by Nimrod, the beast.  The mark in the forehead is the more subtle form of this gospel expanded by his wife, the Virgin Mother, the image of the beast.  The mark on the forehead is a way to partake of the works of the beast without "dirtying the hands" with manifest works of self-will.  Works of sorcery typify those with the mark on the forehead and is the modus operandi of the world system of churches rooted in Rome/Babylon.  Through the mark on the forehead, "clergy" justifies itself with various levels of ordained spirituality.  The higher the level, the better one is able to know the "higher meanings" of scripture.

As Western civilizaton spreads from the Roman heartland, the dragon leaves behind a religious system dominated by the beast.  The Pope is the legitimate heir to the office of high pagan priest, the pontifex maximus, begun by Nimrod.  Roman Catholicism is steeped in traditions of salvation based on works of self-will.  It maintains a system of "spiritual levels" beginning with the lay and climbing up through the different gradations of clergy.  All other churches are just imitations of the grand pagan type begun by Roman Catholicism.  Some may claim "justification by faith."  But they all, in one form or another, have a clergy and promote a Sunday morning work of will called "worship."  The fierceness of the dragon is always centered on overcoming any dissenters on the frontiers of the modern Roman empire.  Since the current frontier of this empire is in the U.S., the dragon's main movements are here.  Christians who escape the older manifestations of Babylon are confronted with new ones.  The aggression of neo-evangelists (mark in right hand) and the priestcraft of post-modernists (mark in forehead) are just new ways of presenting the same old religion of Nimrod.  





(Edited by serp 3/7/2007 at 08:39 AM).


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Posts: 48 | Posted: 6:48 PM on April 23, 2006 | IP
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You confuse me.  The mark in Revelation is the mark that the antichrist will require to buy or sell during the seven years after Christ comes.  Where did you get your information and what does it mean?  You aren't very clear on the subject


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Agent K -

Revelation is the most spiritually figurative book of the Bible.  If you take the mark of the beast to be a physical mark, then by your own reasoning you must take the seal which is placed on the foreheads of the saints in Revelation as a physical seal (or the mark which is placed on the men of Jerusalem in Ezekiel 9:4 as a physical mark).  What about the name written on the head of the beast in Rev. 13?  If these are figurative of a spiritual state, then why do you (or, I assume, your church) take the "mark of the beast" as a physical mark?  

As far as the "seven years" you refer to, I assume you mean the presumed seven years of tribulation put forth by many Bible teachers?  How are you sure that the events concerning the mark in Revelation are limited to seven years?  Are you just reading into Revelation what Bible teachers have told you?  There is a 3 1/2 year period of time referred to in Revelation, but how can you be certain that "the mark" only fits into this time period?  Though I remain uncommitted on the subject, Seventh Day Adventists believe that the "one thousand two hundred and sixty days" spoken of in Rev. 12 are days of years which have already come and gone similar to the "weeks" of years in Daniel.   I teach what the Spirit of God puts on my heart, not what hirelings tell me.  I wouldn't be so bold to say that I can make plain all the timings of the events in Revelation.

Personally, I believe that there is a specific tribulation period, but I am not convinced that we don't already taste of tribulation now.  I am not a "Pre-tribulation Rapture"  fanatic like I assume you are.  

(Edited by serp 3/1/2007 at 12:35 AM).


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Posts: 48 | Posted: 10:47 PM on February 28, 2007 | IP
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I have edited my original posting for two reasons.  The first is to expand the explanation of the marks.  Hopefully, this will make them clearer.  The second is to eliminate peripheral points in which I was less confident.


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Posts: 48 | Posted: 9:07 PM on March 3, 2007 | IP
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When Jesus cried, "father, father, why hast thou forsaken me," he merely expressed his anguish that God allowed him to be treated so shamefully.

Actually, when Jesus cried "father, father..." He was citing a passage in the Old Testament that showed this was the direct fulfillment of prophecy.  Any Jew worth his salt would've immediately seen the correlation between what was happening and what was foretold.


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