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those people that you interviewed on that website were morons and had no idea what they were talking about. what, are you afraid that if you interviewed an intelligent Christian then ur stereotype of Christians would be proved wrong?


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i am a liberal chrisitian and proud of it!!!

"Those who produce should have, but we know that those who produce the most - that is, those who work hardest, and at the most difficult and most menial tasks, have the least." - Eugene Debs
 


Posts: 971 | Posted: 5:49 PM on November 24, 2002 | IP
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Yes, they are morons.
There are two issues in play.
The first is the site is intended to be funny.
Secondly, a majority of those people messaged me. I do not usually look for stupid people, they find me.

When I show people the site I generally get different reactions depending on the viewers religion.
Christian- You're a dick. You pick on stupid people because you are weak.
Atheist/Agnostic- How can you deal with ignorant people labeling you? I wouldn't like to be called a fag or evil just because of what I believe and you were too nice to some of those assholes.
Person (whatever religion) with a good sense of humor- That's some funny shit.
 


Posts: 193 | Posted: 5:55 PM on November 24, 2002 | IP
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beavis, whether or not you get your kicks by making fun of people you consider ignorant due to their religious beliefs is up to you.  but keep it on your website.    


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Posts: 134 | Posted: 02:24 AM on November 25, 2002 | IP
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No.
 


Posts: 193 | Posted: 02:27 AM on November 25, 2002 | IP
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I think it's funny.  I think those people are hilarious, but that doesn't change the fact that I think the only reason you're doing it is for attention.


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"The greatest evil is not done in those sordid dens of evil that Dickens loved to paint ... but is conceived and ordered (moved, seconded, carried and minuted) in clear, carpeted, warmed, well-lighted offices, by quiet men with white collars and cut fingernails and smooth-shaven cheeks who do not need to raise their voices." - Thomas Merton

"I thank my God for every remembrance of you." - Paul
 


Posts: 341 | Posted: 03:51 AM on November 25, 2002 | IP
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beavis, given your last reply, i tend to agree with thistown


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Posts: 134 | Posted: 10:48 AM on November 25, 2002 | IP
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The request that I silence myself when it comes to anything is so absurd that a simple no is enough. Why must I have an alterior motive? You guys don't like the site therefore I'm insecure and attention needy. Crystal clear logic.
 


Posts: 193 | Posted: 12:17 PM on November 25, 2002 | IP
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It's funny, huh? I thought it was just the desperate cry of someone so insecure in his beliefs that he had to base his entire existence on the website.
 


Posts: 193 | Posted: 12:19 PM on November 25, 2002 | IP
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i think you are completely misunderstanding me.  i never said you were insecure about anything.  i just think it somewhat sadistic (sorry.  i know its a bit strong, but its the only word i could think of right now) that you get your kicks by exploiting the supposed "ignorance" of others.  it would seem to make more sense not to take the ignorance of a few and apply across the entire group.  just as you have encountered bigoted Christians, i have encountered bigoted atheists.  so...does that mean you are a bigot, and all other atheists are bigots.  by your example i guess that's a yes.  i suppose that all i'm trying to say, is don't take your clearly biased view (due to only a few "ignorant" Christians) and use it as a basis in your arguments


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i am a liberal chrisitian and proud of it!!!

"Those who produce should have, but we know that those who produce the most - that is, those who work hardest, and at the most difficult and most menial tasks, have the least." - Eugene Debs
 


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No, you did not say I was insecure but if you'd read what your friend has said you'd see where those comments were directed.

You can fear stereotyping all you want but I know all christians are not that stupid. You know it, and I think most of the people who see the site know it. The truth is that those people were that stupid. I may be sadistic but those things were said and posting them does not mean everyone says them, it means those people said them.
 


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i bet you would never post an intelligent Christian on that website, would you?


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i am a liberal chrisitian and proud of it!!!

"Those who produce should have, but we know that those who produce the most - that is, those who work hardest, and at the most difficult and most menial tasks, have the least." - Eugene Debs
 


Posts: 971 | Posted: 5:16 PM on November 25, 2002 | IP
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Those conversations honestly represent almost all of the people who have messaged me because I don't believe what they do. No, I would not out it at that site. My goal was not to represent the world. I am not writing books for public school, I am making a funny website for me and my friends. When intelligent christians make me laugh because of their stupidity, I will gladly put them up on my humr site. Maybe even when they just tell me some really great jokes, but that has not happened and probably never will.

Notice I have not updated the site for a long time. I know you were just running to find some great jokes to tell me so you could then confront me with my "hypocrisy", but unfortunately, I no longer work on the site.
 


Posts: 193 | Posted: 5:53 PM on November 25, 2002 | IP
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No one's saying you should take the site down, it doesn't offend me in the least.  Yes I do think it is funny, "My Lord and Saviour Beavis Christ" was a riot, I bet everyone who read that post laughed to tears.  All this says something about you, and I'm not saying this because I am a Christian, I really could care less.  I was in no way offended, I would have made these same observations if I was Muslim or atheist or whatever.  Let's drop this, and talk about something worthwhile.  


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"The greatest evil is not done in those sordid dens of evil that Dickens loved to paint ... but is conceived and ordered (moved, seconded, carried and minuted) in clear, carpeted, warmed, well-lighted offices, by quiet men with white collars and cut fingernails and smooth-shaven cheeks who do not need to raise their voices." - Thomas Merton

"I thank my God for every remembrance of you." - Paul
 


Posts: 341 | Posted: 7:16 PM on November 25, 2002 | IP
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one problem with the whole condtradicition thing when i studied the bible more: This is not the word of god at all; it is how the scribes interpreted it.  You dont really think that they had spell check or grammer check, let alone GodsWord check back then!  They would not have been able to copy it word for word, so they can INTERPRET it differently.

However, it does say in the bible somewhere 'I shall not forgive you 7 times, but 70 times 7' This means two things; God did not forgive Adam and Eve when they pleaded forgiveness after eating the bad apples AND that once someone has sinned 490 times, their screwed.


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Jesus does not mean 70 times 7 literally


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i am a liberal chrisitian and proud of it!!!

"Those who produce should have, but we know that those who produce the most - that is, those who work hardest, and at the most difficult and most menial tasks, have the least." - Eugene Debs
 


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yes, but still...  I thought it funny./.../

Either way, religion is just all about faith; it doesnt matter if others think youre wrong, you just know that you are right.  Im not opinionated, just always right- the mibndset?


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first of all Adam and Eve did not beg for forgiveness from God.  They hid and tried to escape God.  Secondly God did not work on a grace system then, that came with the New Testament and Jesus' death on Earth.  
 


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And when god found them they begged.  He still never forgave them.  And besides that, if you say 'the bible was written after that!' God was, is and will be, and he is perfect.  So he would never change himself since he is already perfect.  You cant become more perfect, now can you?


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Thank you so much for that statement dsadevil. Poor Jesus. All he was was really the first reform Jew. And Jews are NOT a race. Sakata, I am seriously afraid that you try to use HITLER'S reasoning to back up your point. That doesn't speak much for you, does it?
 


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I feel terrible that I wrote my last reply in that manner.  Now that I re-read it, it's very haughty and inconsiderate.  After going through Genesis again, I have not found where they have begged God, but I do not know if they didn't and I should not have presumed that.  I do know however, that in Gen; 3:11-13 that Adem blames Eve and Eve blames the Serpent for what they have done, and neither asks then to be forgiven.
As to the New Covenant; God did not try to make himself more perfect.  You were right, that is an impossibility, but there are different ways to do things that are equally perfect.
I am sixteen years old, and do not feel that I am adequately informed to defend or speak for my entire religion, although I really enjoy reading the Bible and discovering it's depths.  I love God's work in my life, and though I would have said about three years ago that I did not see God's work in my life I can not say the same now.  I've learned how to ask and cry out to God, and have seen some really amazing things happen.  That's why I believe in God.  He's shown me that he's still living and isn't just for the two thousand year old people.  I've rambled for a while now, and have basically gotten off track, so I'll go now.
 


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I LOVE GOD'S SENCE OF HUMOR!!!
 


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 Jesus Christ is the way the truth and the life...
 


Posts: 0 | Posted: 9:14 PM on December 23, 2002 | IP
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  I would have it that none should be ignorant of God's will for our life. Should God not want to give us thorough equipping for our destined mission in Christ, and He has. So many have said; but I can only do this, and can't do this, because God has not given me any ability to do these things. Is God's love not sufficient for our every need? Are not all things possible through Christ? "All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, reproof, correction, instruction in righteousness, that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work." (2 Timothy 3:16,17)
God's will is for every soldier in His army to be "complete", lacking nothing. He would have us be able to be efficient minister's of the Gospel in every aspect, lacking no gifts. He wants us to be "thoroughly eqipped for every good work", through the studying of His Word which is so essential to any one walking in the day. For should we not look forward to studying His Word, I assure you that all who are in Him remain in His Word. "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God." (John 1:1) For if Christ is the Word became flesh, then all who remain in Christ remain in the Word, for "...we have the mind of Christ".    (1 Corinthians 2:16) Therefore our Spirit should bare witness of the Word, all of which was inspired by Christ. For did not Christ Himself declare "...Truly I assure you, before Abraham's birth I am." While Christ is telling us that He has always been, is He not also claiming that he was the great "I am" of which spoke to Moses in Exodus 3:14? For Christ was in the beginning, and He was the "I am", and He was the "we" in the book of Genesis. So Jesus said,"And I, if I be lifted up from the earth will draw all men to me." (John 12:32) He spoke not of the rapture, but of taking all men's sins with Him upon the Cross, in the Death and Ressurection. And so Paul writes,"For the love of Christ compels us, because we judge thus: that if One died for all, then all died; and He died for all, that those who live should no longer live for themselves, but for Him who died for them and rose agian." 2 Corinthians 5:14,15) So therefore, if we are truly children of God (John 1:12) then we live not according to the flesh, which is foolish in it's it's dead end desires, but that wicked curse was nailed to the cross (for he drew that unto Himself, and "He who knew no sin became sin for us, that we might become the righteousness of God in Him" [1 Corinthians 5:21]), and now we have been awarded the privledge to become in Christ, and become one with His ressurected state, in Victory and Power.     From God's servant, Benjamin             -bensaved2001@hotmail.com
 


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First of all i want to agree with everyone and ask, why so much talk about what you think this and that religon is; and read it.  Yes, the old ways before Jesus was born, dead and resurrected are very different from the new ways.
 


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Quote from Exxoss at 4:28 PM on September 25, 2002 :i think thats his name)I also think that jesus was a homosexual.  Im serious.



Explain this please

 


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Jesus was perfect. He is perfect. Jesus will always be perfect. You will repent and experience eternal joy, or you will experience eternal seperation from God, the worst punishment you could ever imagine. Not one of the contradictions is a valid arguement agianst the Divine inspiration of the Scriptures. We have documents of non-christian historians that completely confirm Jesus existence and crucifixion. Simon Greenleaf, the founder of Harvard University of Law,  was an athiest. He studied the case for Christ, based on only evidence, and concluded that the ressurection of Jesus CHRIST IS AS ESTABLISHED AS ANY OTHER EVENT IN HUMAN HISTORY. The fact is, we have documentation of over 500 people who saw Jesus after His ressurection. He is risen. There is no true controversy over the reality of Christ Jesus. We HAVE SO MUCH EVIDENCE it is not even an arguement to say that Jesus Christ has not been proven to be Divine. Jesus is coming back soon, He has proven to be completely correct (of course, He is God!) , and He will continue to fulfill His word. Ask Jesus to be your Savior, and get a Bible, NOW!  
 


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