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Many people think the bible says that sex outside of marriage is a sin. But the bible is unclear. In Exodus, chapter 20, in the 10 commandments, we are told you should not commit adultery. Adultery is not defined as having sex outside of marriage. It is defined as having sex with a married person. Nothing is said prohibiting sexual relations between two unmarried people. In fact, in Leviticus we are given a list of every situation in which we should not have sex. We're not to have sex with married people, or with family members, or with animals. We are not prohibited from having sex with an unmarried person who is not in our family.
Some places in the bible state that fornication is a sin. Some wrongly interpret that to mean sex outside of marriage. That is not true. The greek translation identifies fornication as being any "illicit (illegal) sexual activity". But in Leviticus, the bible does not mention sex between two unmarried people as being illicit.
In fact, we read where some of God's greatest leaders, such as King David (who God called a man"after his own heart"), had hundreds of wives and hundreds of unmarried concubines (women kept in the house for the purpose of sex). None of these were considerd sins. It is only when David had sex with another man's wife that he committed the sin of adultery.
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Posts: 0 | Posted: 05:33 AM on December 6, 2002 | IP
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"Let us behave decently, as in the daytime, not in orgies and drunkenness, not in sexual immorality and debauchery, not in dissension and jealousy. "
Romans 13:13
"Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders"
1 Corinthians 6:9
"The acts of the sinful nature are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery; "
Galatians 5:19
"But among you there must not be even a hint of sexual immorality, or of any kind of impurity, or of greed, because these are improper for God's holy people. "
Ephesians 5:3
"Put to death, therefore, whatever belongs to your earthly nature: sexual immorality, impurity, lust, evil desires and greed, which is idolatry. "
Colossians 3:5
"Do you not know that your bodies are members of Christ himself? Shall I then take the members of Christ and unite them with a prostitute? Never!"
1 Corinthians 6:15
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Posts: 0 | Posted: 7:25 PM on December 6, 2002 | IP
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Nice cut and paste of bible quotes. None of them have anything to do with premarital sex; but interesting to read anyway. What do you think about premarital sex?
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Posts: 0 | Posted: 08:00 AM on December 7, 2002 | IP
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No where does it even mention premarital sex in the bible. So why do you think it is impure? I thought you took a literal view of the bible, so if it is not even mentioned why would you think it is bad. Or is this one of those thing you don't take a literal view on because it doesn't support your bias. Prosititution is paying for sex, so I would agree the bible says that is bad, but what about all other premarital sex. Do you think all sex is bad? If so what a sad life.
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Posts: 0 | Posted: 5:41 PM on December 7, 2002 | IP
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Just look at it this way. For every couple having premarital sex, there are two less people out causing serious trouble.
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Posts: 0 | Posted: 09:49 AM on December 9, 2002 | IP
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I was raised in the Mormon religion. In the Mormon religion having sex before marriage is almost as bad as committing murder. Sex before marriage is the sin next to murder. I personally don't agree with this viewpoint.
(Edited by gunmyths 12/10/2002 at 02:32 AM).
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Posts: 60 | Posted: 02:29 AM on December 10, 2002 | IP
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The bible condemns lust, as in wanting what is not yours. When you have sex outside of marriage you are lusting for something that is not yours. It becomes yours in marriage, the bible puts it as the union of two into one, that you become "one flesh", therefore you are no longer committing the sin of lust. That is why premarital sex is wrong.
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"The greatest evil is not done in those sordid dens of evil that Dickens loved to paint ... but is conceived and ordered (moved, seconded, carried and minuted) in clear, carpeted, warmed, well-lighted offices, by quiet men with white collars and cut fingernails and smooth-shaven cheeks who do not need to raise their voices." - Thomas Merton
"I thank my God for every remembrance of you." - Paul
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Posts: 341 | Posted: 03:50 AM on December 10, 2002 | IP
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Duet 5:21
'Neither shall you covet your neighbor's wife; and you shall not lust after your neighbor's house, his field, or his manservant, or his maidservant, his ox, or his ass, or anything that is your neighbor's
Proverbs 21:26
All day long the wicked lust, but the righteous gives and does not hold back.
Luke 12:15
And he said to them, "Take heed, and beware of all lust; for a man's life does not consist in the abundance of his possessions.
All of these verses are based upon this idea of lust, yet none have anything to do with a sexual lust. People have gotten away from the true meaning of lust as the want of something they don't have, and only see a miniscule facet of it, the sexual side. The fact remains, in premarital sex you are lusting for something that you don't have yet in marriage. Aside from this, our idea of adultery as sex is off to, "you have heard it said, 'do not commit adultery'. "but i say to you whoever looks upon another in lust has commited adultery in his heart."
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"The greatest evil is not done in those sordid dens of evil that Dickens loved to paint ... but is conceived and ordered (moved, seconded, carried and minuted) in clear, carpeted, warmed, well-lighted offices, by quiet men with white collars and cut fingernails and smooth-shaven cheeks who do not need to raise their voices." - Thomas Merton
"I thank my God for every remembrance of you." - Paul
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Posts: 341 | Posted: 06:04 AM on December 10, 2002 | IP
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Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind. (First Corinthians 6:9)
But fornication, and all uncleanness, or covetousness, let it not be once named among you, as becometh saints. (Ephesians 5:3)
For this is the will of God, even your sanctification, that ye should abstain from fornication. (First Thessalonians 4:3)
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Posts: 60 | Posted: 8:26 PM on December 11, 2002 | IP
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i see
-i am xenjael
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Posts: 0 | Posted: 8:28 PM on December 11, 2002 | IP
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No one has yet provided any verse from the bible that says premarital sex is a sin. Fornication, adultery, lust, etc. do not mean premarital sex. It's okay if people want to think that premarital sex is not good. However, there is not biblical justification to believe that premarital sex is bad. Don't try to interpret words to mean things that they don't.
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Posts: 0 | Posted: 08:00 AM on December 12, 2002 | IP
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"Before two people are united in marriage, you are wanting what you don't have."
No, you are assuming you don't have it until you are married. This does not prove anything, only that you have already made up your mind, not that the bible says you should not have prematital sex. Your argument accepts the fact that you don't have something not by what the bible says but by your own ideas.
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Posts: 0 | Posted: 3:47 PM on December 12, 2002 | IP
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have you ever heard the saying that when two people marry their souls become one? what happens if there is 3?
- i am xenjael
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Posts: 0 | Posted: 4:37 PM on December 12, 2002 | IP
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thistowns post is a perfect example of circular reasoning. He assumes as a premise the conclusion he wishes to reach. The propositon is being rephrased so that the fallacy appears to be a valid argument to him.
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Posts: 0 | Posted: 4:49 PM on December 12, 2002 | IP
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Where did you get the deserve part dsa? And what am I assuming guest? I gave a definition of lust and applied it to premarital sex, I know 2 steps is tough, but maybe, just maybe a little common sense is needed when the Bible doesn't explicitly spell something out. There is no circular argument. Definition of lust is wanting what you don't have->Sex before marriage is desiring what is not yours->Premarital sex is wrong. Show me circle.
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"The greatest evil is not done in those sordid dens of evil that Dickens loved to paint ... but is conceived and ordered (moved, seconded, carried and minuted) in clear, carpeted, warmed, well-lighted offices, by quiet men with white collars and cut fingernails and smooth-shaven cheeks who do not need to raise their voices." - Thomas Merton
"I thank my God for every remembrance of you." - Paul
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Posts: 341 | Posted: 5:09 PM on December 12, 2002 | IP
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A guest above writes, "No one has yet provided any verse from the Bible that says premarital sex is a sin. Fornication, adultery, lust, etc. do not mean premarital sex."
The dictionary defines fornication as, "voluntary sexual intercourse between persons not married to each other."
The Bible clearly does condemn premarital sex.
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Posts: 60 | Posted: 7:26 PM on December 12, 2002 | IP
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