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Who was Cains wife? where did she come from? The only way that I can see is if Adam & Eve had a daughter, but that would make Cain and his wife brother and sister.


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Posts: 160 | Posted: 09:39 AM on August 15, 2008 | IP
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Did you hear of Sirius B?  It was discovered in this century by scientists, with advanced telescopes and astronomical equipment.

But a primitive tribe in Africa knew of this star thousands of years ago, and it had been significant in their religious beliefs for all that time.  When asked how they knew, they said "The people of the fishes came and told us of it."

Now, I don't know any fish man, and I don't think Adam and Eve did either, considering how there are no references to fish people in the bible.  

This would mean that the tribe existed before Adam and Eve.  In other words, there were more people.


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Posts: 38 | Posted: 8:57 PM on August 21, 2008 | IP
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If that were true, then Adam and Eve wouldn't have been the first man and woman which would throw further doubt on the creation story as depicted in the bible.  BTW, what is your reference for that claim?

Just look at another similar instance in the bible.  The flood killed every person except Noah's family.  Did they repopulate the earth?  If so, there wasn't enough people to make up a viable population, so people would have rather quickly begun giving birth to babies with mental retardation, high susceptibility to certain diseases, and physical deformities.  They would have quickly died off, not multiplied into the over 6 billion people that there are today with a large genetic diversity.
 


Posts: 41 | Posted: 4:31 PM on August 23, 2008 | IP
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Quote from Jabba66 at 8:57 PM on August 21, 2008 :
Did you hear of Sirius B?  It was discovered in this century by scientists, with advanced telescopes and astronomical equipment.

But a primitive tribe in Africa knew of this star thousands of years ago, and it had been significant in their religious beliefs for all that time.  When asked how they knew, they said "The people of the fishes came and told us of it."

Now, I don't know any fish man, and I don't think Adam and Eve did either, considering how there are no references to fish people in the bible.  

This would mean that the tribe existed before Adam and Eve.  In other words, there were more people.


Huh?

Who was Cains wife?



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Posts: 160 | Posted: 05:28 AM on August 28, 2008 | IP
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The books of the Torah (one portion of the 'old testament' properly named the Tanakh) is not meant to be read literally. And I don't mean this the way your average christian does.

Few people recognize that being of egyptian origins culturally, the semitic people that became the hebrews had an hieroglyphic alphabet. Therefore every word in the Torah (Genesis is one of these books) can be read as a 'word' concept, and also letter by letter to be interpreted philosophically, even metaphysically.

We can confirm this by tracing the origins of the semitic people to their roots in ancient egypt - before that, there are no indications of a separate group of judaic people. One prominent theory at the moment is that the 'one god' religion of the judaic people was an offshoot of the egyptian religious traditions, unifying the 'many' gods of egypt into one supreme being with many names. Just as the egyptian heiroglyphs describe both words as in a vocabulary, and philosophical formulae for understanding the significance of those words, hebrew is written the same way, or was for thousands of years.

Adam and Eve are formulae describing metaphysical notions of creation and evolution of man's psyche and spirit; the story was never intended to be read as a literal origin of mankind. The entire book of genesis describes, rather, the interactions between the untouchable and unknowable divinity, it's process of creating and destroying itself in duality of life and death, transcended ultimately by deathlessness, and the role of life - in our case of mankind, though 'humanity' is not expressly described in this formulae, just intelligent life in general - in this cosmic 'game'. In fact, there are many metaphysical concepts described which are startlingly accurate according to fringe physics of the modern day.

This code and it's meaning are evident in the various books of commentaries on the torah, such as the Talmud, and books of kabbalistic literature such as the sepher yetzirah, which it is speculated was intended to be the written key to the hieroglyphic code of the hebrew alphabet. Although it is traditionally considered the instruction manual for creating a 'golem' the formula composing the word golem is metaphysically closer to 'creating a revelation of consciousness' than a man of clay and stone.
 


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Anyone interested might check out the work of Carlo Suares, a spanish kabbalistic philosopher of the mid 20th century. The theories of his work are largely collected and discussed at www.psyche.com, although he authored many books which are far more in depth and insightful. The website is a fair primer, however, to those only peripherally interested.

To any christians interested in the validity of his work, I would also suggest a study of ancient egyptian and related semitic cultures, especially their poetry, literature, and philosophical works outside the Torah and other biblical books - this is because without the proper cultural point of view on the word usage and text of the rest of the Tanakh, the bible cannot be read with any contextual accuracy. When taken in its proper context by getting 'inside the head' of the ancient peoples who authored these books, they tell a very, very different story - this is true of the Gospels as well.

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