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Poll Question: Morals & Ethics where do they come from?   (22 votes)
  Government n/a
  Parents n/a
  Religion n/a
  Self Interest n/a
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Morals and Ethics where do they come from?
 


Posts: 31 | Posted: 9:21 PM on October 18, 2002 | IP
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Let us first distinguish between morals and ethics. Morals are considered to not be a social construct, unlike ethics, which are explicitly defined as a moral code that is taught. At least, that is how I use the words. Morals, I believe, come from two places. The first, is a biological instinct for group preservation (which in some cases conflicts with instinct for self-preservation). many species exhibit it, we just are intelligent and self-aware enought to examine it and often (incorrectly in my view) imbue it with transcendental value. Morality may be innate and (almost) universal, but only in the sense that as biologics we all exhibit that instinct, but it is not absolute in the sense that it points to some law of morality that exists outside the realm of biology. Now, morals also are exhibited in a sense of guilt, which is I suppose originated in the instinct for group preservation but is fueled by social conditioning. I do not believe killing is WRONG per se, but I won't ever do it because I know I would feel guilty. same as giving money to homeless people. I don't think it is RIGHT to give money, but I do it anyway, to avoid guilt. At least I am honest about it. Now ethics, that is simple. Ethics are logic based arguments for moral behavior. That is, it a code of morality (or distinction between appropriate and inappropriate conduct) grounded in practical conceptual models, such as utilitarianism, or egoism, or determinism. There is no room for religion in ethics.  


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Posts: 292 | Posted: 03:03 AM on October 19, 2002 | IP
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At my school, we made a red brick wall of antidrug, and my friend, mazzot, made a little thing called 'the red brick wall of political oppression'.  Sounds funny, but its true.  The brick wall is the government tell schools to make the red wall so children get the message that drugs r bad.  'What about people who feel strongly for the legalization of drugs?" -Mazzot said that.  Ethics are made by the government trying to convert kids to the beliefs of the government.  The government tells buisnesses, buisnesses->skools, skools->parents, parents-> kids
The government is EvIl!  
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Posts: 438 | Posted: 4:47 PM on November 1, 2002 | IP
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I'm posting this here because part of it relates to what Exxoss said.

1. The teacher who organized the wall read what I wrote, and offered to post it on the wall becuase it was well written and thought out.
2. You missed a cool party tonight. Sorry friend!
 


Posts: 122 | Posted: 11:27 PM on November 1, 2002 | IP
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I think most morals and ethics come from what your parents teach you first then when you get older by self interest. so i think those 2...


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Posts: 85 | Posted: 10:55 AM on January 4, 2003 | IP
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Really a mixture of all of them.


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Posts: 351 | Posted: 4:10 PM on January 4, 2003 | IP
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yes morals and ethics are passed on from your parents and as you get older do form from self interest but the prehaps most basic and universal morals originate from religion


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Posts: 2 | Posted: 4:13 PM on April 30, 2004 | IP
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Well, the basic purpose of morality is somewhat subjective, yet it is taken from what all rational people have in common--the desire to live nice lives in a happy, functional society.

Morality comes from the socio-biological desire to survive and thrive. People make stuff up to fit that as best as possible, so in a way, we get our morality from a form of Cultural Relativism, yet not quite.


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Posts: 12 | Posted: 7:49 PM on January 11, 2005 | IP
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are we talking about right and wrong? and does the poll distinguish between how i determine right from wrong or just what i think the majority of people do?

the majority of people think that humans are nice people for the most part who want to get a long in peace and harmony.. tra la la la la.. *sing a song*.. unfortunately they distinguish between "criminal" types and "regular" citizens... this is uninformed thinking which is based on egotism and not fact.

a more interesting debate or topic of interest would be the following:

"Is there absolute truch with regards to morals  and ethics or is it relative?"



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Posts: 95 | Posted: 01:33 AM on April 24, 2005 | IP
    
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