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Is there Extraterrestrial Intelligent life? 

http://www.youdebate.com/DEBATES/EXTRATERRESTRIAL_LIFE.HTM

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This question is currently not provable.  We lack a clear-cut definitions of life and intelligence, and the capability to reach these planets.  The "greys" happen to coincidentally be bipedal, have large heads (presumably where a brain-like structure resides), eye-like structures, and structures similar to opposible thumbs (although they only have three fingers and toes).  Sound like a someone we know?  

There is evidence of earth-like life from other planets, yes.  When dealing with a process like evolution (which is also assumed on other planets), much of it is randomness.  From two data points in solar system, statistically little significant information can be derived as to the probability of life on other planets.  

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i believe there is.  If humans exists, why not anything else?  


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Scientists found bugs on pluto.  (I dont know what the heck happened to my origional post...)

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I used to be all paranoid about aliens, but then I realized it was because I spend most of my time watching the X-files :D hehe, I dont know for sure now, I am not worried about it.


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Scientists found bugs on pluto.  (I dont know what the heck happened to my origional post...)

(Edited by Exxoss 11/1/2002 at 7:07 PM).


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i read some where that with all the galaxies, solar systems and probable number of planets, statistically, there is like a 70% chance Spanish is spoken on another planet. I think (please don't ask me where I read this, I have no idea where) there must be. I am looking forward to meeting them. Or have I already. Just kidding folks...maybe...


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Spanish? shoot, of all the classes I could have failed...


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scientist found living bugs on pluto? where did you get this crap. we have only sent probes to pluto but nothing has ever landed on pluto much less came back. and if something did go to pluto it would take a few years just to get there and a few years to get back. if we did get something to land on pluto and it already came back then there is no way of gathering bugs in test tubes bc with how long it takes to get there, there is no way we had the technology to gather insects and put them in test tubes. we could not remote controll it bc it takes 20 minutes for a radio wave to get from here to mars. pluto is at least one hundred times farther away. pluto is not even really a planet bc it has an elliptical orbit. it is a moon that broke away from neptunes gravitational pull. i couldnt imagine any thing living in that ice chunk we call pluto it is too cold for anything to live on bc it reaches absolute zero when it is in the darkside of its orbit.


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Since I do not believe in evolution, the only way aliens could exist was if God created them.
I do not know if God created other life on planets far from us, but I doubt it. That's my belief.

By the way, there has never been any evidence on any planet of other life.


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"since [you] do not believe in evolution"....????
do u realize that you are predicating belief about scientific possibilities purely on assumptions. Yes, if there is no evolution, and God just chose one planet out of billions to create life, and a book for a tiny portion of that biological mass to read for insight into Him, yes, there probably aren't aliens. sheesh.


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Quote from kc2gwx at 1:14 PM on October 23, 2002 :
Since I do not believe in evolution, the only way aliens could exist was if God created them.
I do not know if God created other life on planets far from us, but I doubt it. That's my belief.

By the way, there has never been any evidence on any planet of other life.


Why wouldnt God create life on other planets?  or maybe there are more than one God.  aybe our God is not the same one for another planet.  the universe is so unimaginably huge, there is really no way we will ever know unless they come to us.



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or...we go to them...


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Quote from Cool-Hand-Dave at 3:14 PM on November 26, 2002 :
or...we go to them...



i think that would be awesome, but i dont think it will ever happen.


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me neither.  but, oh well.  


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Hey KC, they found microscopic life on Mars already. D'oh.
 


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i havent done much research concerning extra-terrestrial life so i was just wondering if you knew when they found this. or if you could give me a link to a website.


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I'm not positive beavis so don't take my word for it but I think I read that that was discredited (I assume your talking about the microscpoic tube-worm type fossils found in mars rock).  Any way I'm not sure, does anybody else know?  I very well could be horribly mistaken.

Anyway, I hope there is other life out there.


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You would think in such a VAST universe there would be a real good chance of life out there somewhere. But would it be like us? Carbon based, oxygen/nitrogen breathing or what? Think of the religious meaning to. If "they" had a belife in a God like some of our major religions, would that not prove his existance?


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I heard a theory from this guy who was supposedly taken aboard alein ships all the time, he wrote a few books and he believe that it is spiritual... er demons, I mean,  just srewing with people to create fear or for their own entertainment or something.


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Good call. It has not been discredited but is still being debated. A concensus one way or another will probably come when we have a little more technology or understanding of what to look for exactly.
http://cosmos.colorado.edu/~urquhart/life.html
 


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Finding another planet where the "people" there had a religion would not necessarily 'prove' the existence of God.

For someone who already believes in God, it might confirm their belief.
Someone who didn't believe in God would probably use it to say that religion is something that people "make up" either to Control the Masses ("be good or you'll go to hell") or to self-manifest a purpose for life.


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ET life ? YES ! http://spaceflight.nasa.gov/spacenews/releases/2001/j01-20.html


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God resides in 10 dimmensional hyperspace...God is everything we see, feel, taste and hear.
 


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Why limit God to just 10? There are a number of theories that indicate that there may be even more.


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Quote from kc2gwx at 1:14 PM on October 23, 2002 :
Since I do not believe in evolution, the only way aliens could exist was if God created them.
I do not know if God created other life on planets far from us, but I doubt it. That's my belief.

By the way, there has never been any evidence on any planet of other life.



To the folks who slammed KC.  Sorry that is one really air tight arguement.  That is his belief.   It was not stated as a scientific fact, truth, or statistic.  It also fits into his model of Creation.

There have been possible discoveries that could suppose life on other worlds.  But that is not evidence for life on other worlds.

There is no evidense of life on other worlds.  But ask me to bet $10 I'd have to bet there is.  Ask me to prove it, I can't.
 


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I think maybe there is. What point would there be for other planets to exist if there was no life on them?


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   There is no other life, when God created us He said "it is very good". From that statement you can assume that God was satisfied, He had created someone that would be able to share His love with Him. He saw no need to create any other beings. He is content with us, His love for us is that great. "For God so loved the world....".
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Guest- so, What about all the millions of different insects and animals and birds he created?


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we where created after the animals and birds and insects.
 


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whos to say that the god that created our earth is the same one that created others?  just think about it, our sun is just a star, a smaller one at that, and look at the sky at night, see all the stars.  why wouldnt there be more solar systems out there with life?  i beleive there is.   i beleive that every star is another solar system with life in it.  who knows, maybe there are more earths out there.


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  Bubble gum,
       We were made in His "image and likeness", and I meant the life which He gave us here on earth. When He created life on earth God said "it was very good".

  Maynard,
         I think you worded your opinion wrong,"every star is another solar system with life in it." Anyway, God created all of the heaven's and the earth, and He thinks so much of us, God thought we were enough.

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I find it hard to beleive he thought we were very good when we are damaging the earth by littering and polluting. We dont even live according to nature. i wonder when we will become extinct and another form of life will exist. like the dinosaurs were extinct. then humans came.


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Quote from Guest at 4:07 PM on January 3, 2003 :
 
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         I think you worded your opinion wrong,"every star is another solar system with life in it." Anyway, God created all of the heaven's and the earth, and He thinks so much of us, God thought we were enough.

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no, i worded it exactly how i meant it.


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Bubble gum,
      God's love for us is evident by the fact He sent His only Son to save as many as He could. Actually God tells us what is going to happen, maybe I will start another forum!?
    Later, Ben  
 
Maynard,
      If you believe that every star is a solar system with life in it, then you would have to believe that the sun, a star, is a solar system with life in it! This is obviously not the case.
   
 


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i knew one day my bad grammar would get me
i mean every star is a sun of another solar system.


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HEres an idea, maybe God (if there is one) created our world and us along with many others. THers also other gods out in the universe creating planets, seeding life, maybe even battling. So maybe our god is like a system lord. He and other gods reign over many planets and lifeforms in the universe.
 


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THat last post on god and the universe was written by me Scoobyzd.
 


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       There is no "maybe" about it, there is one God that created all things from the beginning. The God of the Bible is True without a shadow of a doubt. Every thing He says is true 100%, and He says He is the only God, and He is. So any other veiw is 100% wrong, and is sowed by the sick imaginations of our flesh, which we have bred for destruction. Jesus is Lord of all.
 


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  Even the famous greek philosopher Socrates knew that there was an absolute truth.
 


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Quote from Bograt at 3:05 PM on December 6, 2002 :
You would think in such a VAST universe there would be a real good chance of life out there somewhere. But would it be like us? Carbon based, oxygen/nitrogen breathing or what? Think of the religious meaning to. If "they" had a belife in a God like some of our major religions, would that not prove his existance?


*claps*

Yes, I agree. It's arrogance to assume that if there is life they would need the same nutrients to survive. They might not even need water. It's so hard to believe that in those billions of stars in the billions of galaxies that there is not one single planet out there supporting life. If there is even one that proves we're not alone.

concerning the Bible, i don't remember it ever contradicting extraterrestrial life, so i don't see why not.

 


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I personally believe that there is a God, the God of Abraham and Issac. The God of David, King of Isreal and the same God who sent his son as our savior. If you read the bible all the way through, it also says that to God a day is as a thousand years. This isn't to be taken literally, it is to say that to God, time has no meaning. He is outside of time. Did God create the earth in one literal day? No. Of course not. The principal of day and night wasn't to come until later. It was simply the first phase of creation. I don't believe that we came from monkey's or single celled organisms or of that stupid non sense. The very nature of humans however is that of adaption. The fact that we can servive in the diversity of our own planet is a testament of the fact that we can adapt. The question of life on other planets is beyond measure. The odds that there is life as we know it is significant enough, to say nothing of the fact that if there is extra terrestrial life, it probably won't be "as we know it." For those who believe in God, the ultimate arrogance is assuming you know His mind. He is far beyond anything you could possibly fathom. Don't assume we're his only creation, scripturally we are his favorite, his "most perfect" creation. But it says no where that he didn't create other sentient species, nor does it support it. Which to me simply says that it's a moot point. To those who favor evolution, you can do nothing but agree that it's almost certain that in all the universe there is other sentient life. With the diversity of the life on our planet, it only makes sense that there is an almost infinite number of possiblities into which life could evolve. Whether or not we will ever encounter such life, only time will tell.


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If you think about it, there is a high possibility of intellegent life out there somewhere! After all, we have not been able to create technology that can reach into the farthest depths of space! And as for any arguments like, "If they existed, wouldn't they try to contact us by now," maybe they have the same thoughts many of us do! Maybe they think it's impossible because they thought WE would have contacted THEM by now! Maybe our idea of what intelligence is isn't really very correct!


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If life was spawned forth from a creator then he/she would tell us. If he/she didn't what to tell us then it's probably in our best intrests to take advice from the ethreal creator and back off.
scientifically speaking, life is a fluke (as is everything) and really after the fluke "trigger" of life starting its all an upward spiral. Perhaps there are other "life forms" out there but what are the chances that we would even recognise them as alive?
Even so, the natural xenophobic state of most people can barely handle inter-racial relationships or homosexual marriges let alone aleins.
We don't even give full rights to everybody everywere yet; and barley any to animals.

People are not yet capable of communicating with "others" and I am not just talking about technology.


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Even so, the natural xenophobic state of most people can barely handle inter-racial relationships or homosexual marriges let alone aleins.
We don't even give full rights to everybody everywere yet; and barley any to animals.


the natural xenophobic state of most people huh? So tell me the majority percentage of people that can't handle inter-racial relationships? That's a statement of pure ignorance! Who in this country doesn't enjoy every freedom provided by the consitution? and what rights do non sentient animals deserve?


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Why do people always have to associate EVERYTHING with religion?

Here's my look on the idea of life beyond earth,

The universe is so unimaginably huge for this insignificant planet to be the only one with life defys all odds.Uncountable planets exist out there and more are being formed.Then there is the matter of how do you define life?Why do they have to alive by our standard or even have to follow our laws of physics?I will personally wager my body and mind on the bet that life exists elsewhere. Heh, but im getting ahead of myself.The universe may be bustling with life, but for two beings of different planets to encounter each other within this vast void of time and space? the odds are, in my opinion less than one percent.


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Yes, I do think there is life out there.

The universe is SO BIG! How can there NOT be other life out there?.

And, I know, It isnt a proven thing though...
 


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i read some where that with all the galaxies, solar systems and probable number of planets, statistically, there is like a 70% chance Spanish is spoken on another planet. I think (please don't ask me where I read this, I have no idea where) there must be. I am looking forward to meeting them. Or have I already. Just kidding folks...maybe...


That is so cool. :--)



 


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