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Nuno

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The Big Bang theory includes the idea that the sub-atomic particles from it gathered condensed into hydrogen atoms which then gathered into clouds which condensed into balls. Machines like petrol engines and refridgerators work by having gases drawn or pumped into a vacuum whereupon they expand. If gases expand in a vacuum, how did the Big bang hydrogen clouds contract in the vacuum of space? The sites I've been to don't explain how this happened.
 


Posts: 20 | Posted: 6:51 PM on December 26, 2005 | IP
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Probably because they didn't.  Scientists can't explain it.  Scientist don't talk about what they can't explain.


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Quote from Nuno at 6:51 PM on December 26, 2005 :
The Big Bang theory includes the idea that the sub-atomic particles from it gathered condensed into hydrogen atoms which then gathered into clouds which condensed into balls. Machines like petrol engines and refridgerators work by having gases drawn or pumped into a vacuum whereupon they expand. If gases expand in a vacuum, how did the Big bang hydrogen clouds contract in the vacuum of space? The sites I've been to don't explain how this happened.


the effects of gravity would have been important in this theory.  there was so much energy compact into a small space that hydrogen--matter--was formed.  we know that matter, however small, has a gravitational force upon it.  engines work on a very small scale and in a very different environment than the start of our universe.  you'll find that the larger the system, the more complex the forces at work on it are.

also, there is much we do not know about the apparent start of the universe.  our current model of physics breaks down near the theoretical point of the big bang.
 


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A theory that is hard to prove and raises more questions than it answers.
 


Posts: 20 | Posted: 10:42 AM on January 12, 2006 | IP
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Quote from Nuno at 10:42 AM on January 12, 2006 :
A theory that is hard to prove and raises more questions than it answers.


every new piece of knowledge raises more questions than it answers.  and every theory is hard to prove at some point.  so what are you saying?

 


Posts: 152 | Posted: 11:43 AM on January 12, 2006 | IP
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What I'm trying to do is get through the assumptions and speculations of some theories and find the hard facts but if I ask direct questions, the defences go up and I can't get any sense out of anyone. I'll give one example. In a chatroom I asked what proof somebody had for his belief in evolution. By the fifth asking I had got nothing better than 'you're a buffoon'. Sadly, that is typical along with meanings of words being twisted. There, I've blown my cover and will have to look elsewhere for my answers.

I don't have a problem with an expanding multi-billion year old universe. I just want to know the hows and whys.
 


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Quote from Nuno at 3:58 PM on January 12, 2006 :
What I'm trying to do is get through the assumptions and speculations of some theories and find the hard facts but if I ask direct questions, the defences go up and I can't get any sense out of anyone. I'll give one example. In a chatroom I asked what proof somebody had for his belief in evolution. By the fifth asking I had got nothing better than 'you're a buffoon'. Sadly, that is typical along with meanings of words being twisted. There, I've blown my cover and will have to look elsewhere for my answers.

I don't have a problem with an expanding multi-billion year old universe. I just want to know the hows and whys.


here is some good study info:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evidence_of_evolution

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gene_flow

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_evolution

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_human_evolution

and look at the discussion page on those as well, some of the information on wikipedia is not as accurate as it could be.  but these pages do a good job of showing you a basic idea of how evolution works.

i'm not about to critisize someone for growing up in a different environment than me.  just because you were never taught, or never interested in theories of science doesn't mean you aren't intelligent.  i find that this is a mistake many non-theists make.
 


Posts: 152 | Posted: 7:57 PM on January 12, 2006 | IP
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We don't know how it all started. The big bang theory relies on all the matter in the universe coming from energy with an unknown source. According to an astrophysicist I have been talking with the conversion from energy should have made equal amounts of matter and anti-matter but it didn't. There is no explanation as to why.

What we know about the very beginning is that it happened and that natural explanations are lacking.

(Edited by hatfield 2/10/2006 at 09:50 AM).
 


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