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Do you support the ACLU ? 

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Posts: 31 | Posted: 4:17 PM on May 1, 2002 | IP
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NO - these clowns are destroying the moral fabric of our country by manipulating the laws to minimalize American standards and values!


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No! Those morons want to keep herr Ashcroft and the FRC from tearing up the constitution! What we need is some good old fashioned theocracy!

(Please, please, please note the sarcasm)


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"If stupidity got us into this mess, why can't it get us out?" -Will Rodgers<br><br><br>"Neither man nor nation can prosper unless in looking at the present, thought is steadily taken for the future." -T. Roosevelt<br><br>"Might I remind you that extremism in the pursuit of liberty is no vice, and moderation in the pursuit of justice, is no virtue." -Barry Goldwater<br><br>

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You suck balls
 


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Which, I assume, makes me an evil, God-hating sinner right? I just LOVE the intelligent debate that goes on here!


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"If stupidity got us into this mess, why can't it get us out?" -Will Rodgers<br><br><br>"Neither man nor nation can prosper unless in looking at the present, thought is steadily taken for the future." -T. Roosevelt<br><br>"Might I remind you that extremism in the pursuit of liberty is no vice, and moderation in the pursuit of justice, is no virtue." -Barry Goldwater<br><br>

Respect through Excellence only
 


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As do I


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"I have no interest in making blacks equal to whites, they are of a lesser quality and this I am sure of." -Abraham Lincoln
"You don't win a war by dying for your country, you win a war by making the other person die for theirs." -General George Patton
 


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guys,guys,guys! this forum is starting to become like the old forum i used to post at!plz stop being so ignorant and start stopping guests from postsing stupid posts like that
 


Posts: 83 | Posted: 8:44 PM on September 17, 2002 | IP
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complain to admin. but we need some new users. im getting tired of the tsmith xenjael dsadevil tri-debate tournament, as entertaining as y'all are.


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"If stupidity got us into this mess, why can't it get us out?" -Will Rodgers<br><br><br>"Neither man nor nation can prosper unless in looking at the present, thought is steadily taken for the future." -T. Roosevelt<br><br>"Might I remind you that extremism in the pursuit of liberty is no vice, and moderation in the pursuit of justice, is no virtue." -Barry Goldwater<br><br>

Respect through Excellence only
 


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oh come on, I thought Xenjael calling me ignorant would be entertainment enough for you.  I pictured you sitting at your computer laugh your ass off.


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"You don't win a war by dying for your country, you win a war by making the other person die for theirs." -General George Patton
 


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I laugh my ass off at both of your posts, because you can't hold a candle to my vast and immense intellect !


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Respect through Excellence only
 


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oh yes, I must tell you, I strive to be like you in every way.


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"You don't win a war by dying for your country, you win a war by making the other person die for theirs." -General George Patton
 


Posts: 372 | Posted: 5:06 PM on September 18, 2002 | IP
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heeheehee...my evil liberal propoganda is working!


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"If stupidity got us into this mess, why can't it get us out?" -Will Rodgers<br><br><br>"Neither man nor nation can prosper unless in looking at the present, thought is steadily taken for the future." -T. Roosevelt<br><br>"Might I remind you that extremism in the pursuit of liberty is no vice, and moderation in the pursuit of justice, is no virtue." -Barry Goldwater<br><br>

Respect through Excellence only
 


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lol...dsadevil we r eqauly intelleqtual, and srry tsmith, u dont come close to either of us.... srry once again tsmith but really, it is becoming like my old forum
 


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i wouldn't pump yourself up too much xenjael, you still have yet to deliver a knockout blow in any debates. Get a few victories under you belt before u start trumpeting your debating prowess.


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Respect through Excellence only
 


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Easy killer, you need to jump off your own bandwagon real quick.


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"You don't win a war by dying for your country, you win a war by making the other person die for theirs." -General George Patton
 


Posts: 372 | Posted: 8:26 PM on September 19, 2002 | IP
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Which one of us? (probably both )


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Respect through Excellence only
 


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Not at you, I will admit that you are an intellingent person but with messed up opinions, but then again, thats my opinion.


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"You don't win a war by dying for your country, you win a war by making the other person die for theirs." -General George Patton
 


Posts: 372 | Posted: 9:18 PM on September 19, 2002 | IP
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Well, that makes 1 conservative admitting 1 liberal is intelligent. Do I hear a second? The silence is deafening.


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Respect through Excellence only
 


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No.  They discriminate too much.  Commies rock!


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Commies rock?  Do you honestly believe that?  In theory it is a good idea but in reality it sucks


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as i said before, i used to be a communist, then i took a history class. socialism rocks!


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Respect through Excellence only
 


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comunism makes evreything free.  That is a utopia.  But with greedy people, there has never been a true communism.  Wouldnt you love to get stuff for free?  that is communism according to Karl Marx.


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actually no i wouldn't. I'd get bored really quick w/out an incentive. Tragically, so would everyone else, and nobody would make (and by extension get) anything. Which is why communism fails so miserably.


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Respect through Excellence only
 


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Then what would be your goal to work harder and educate yourself?  What would you strive for?


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strive for perfection.  Fame.. Greatness.  Not cash.  Rock stars are famous, not all want ,money.


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oh of course. the money has nothing to do with rock stars. also, its one thing to do something for little money if it will make u famous. But what of the thankless, but necessary jobs that need to be done. no one will say "There goes Bob. Never seen a farmer quite like him before." The isn't much glory to be found in everyday life.


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Respect through Excellence only
 


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Rotflmao!  But bob the farmer would be known through out the community as the famrer who helps us all by farming really good.  Bob the farmer would be famous for making great food, as well as cindy the clother, for making great clothes.  Bob the couch potato is not accepted in a communist society.  He is outlawed.  Fame and greatness come through your deeds, not how renown u are!


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Your deeds are what makes you famous.


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Thtat's what i just said.  So now u r agreeing with me?  Why, thank you. :-)  


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What do you think renown means?


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yes, how well people know you via your power.


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this is sad. yea when you view everyone as you're equal then talk of how great communism is. but until we are all equal in each others eyes then we need to shut up.[
 


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NO -answering the orignal question, not that I think you guys are getting off on a tangent or anything...


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i love the ACLU. it is the greatest organization in the US. I assume, sak, you are more in tune with the ACLJ and FRC, yes?


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Respect through Excellence only
 


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pardon my ignorance, but what is the ACLJ and FRC?


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i am a liberal chrisitian and proud of it!!!

"Those who produce should have, but we know that those who produce the most - that is, those who work hardest, and at the most difficult and most menial tasks, have the least." - Eugene Debs
 


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ACLJ= American Council on Law and Justice (Pat Robertson's answer to the ACLU)
FRC= Family Research Council (Ken Conner's answer to the evil gay conspiracy to corrupt and kill our kids)


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"If stupidity got us into this mess, why can't it get us out?" -Will Rodgers<br><br><br>"Neither man nor nation can prosper unless in looking at the present, thought is steadily taken for the future." -T. Roosevelt<br><br>"Might I remind you that extremism in the pursuit of liberty is no vice, and moderation in the pursuit of justice, is no virtue." -Barry Goldwater<br><br>

Respect through Excellence only
 


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ok thank you. and for the record, i dont agree with Pat Robertson or Falwell. (i dont know ken conner so i cant make a judgement)


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i am a liberal chrisitian and proud of it!!!

"Those who produce should have, but we know that those who produce the most - that is, those who work hardest, and at the most difficult and most menial tasks, have the least." - Eugene Debs
 


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he doesn't have his own tv show, so he doesn't get the press. how sad.


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The ACLU notariously attacks only expressions of the christian religion.  They recently attacked and requested the removal of plaques in the Grand Canyon that contained excerpts form the psalms.  They did not bother to attack other religious expressions at the Grand Canyon.  Specifically trail names after hindu and native american gods.  They are biased and have an agenda other than what is stated in their own mission and values.  It is seen clearly in their behavior.  When was the last time you heard of them requesting the removal of saying from the Koran or for the removal of names of Hindu deities?  


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Frisk  every  thought  at  the  door  of  your  mind, moral relativism  is  a  philosophy  that  sounds  good  at  first  just  like  communism  but  when  moral  relativism  is  linked  to  reality  the  results  are  haunting,  the  relativist  organization  ACLU  NOW  PUBLICLY  DEFENDS  CHILD  MOLESTING,  the  organization  known  as  man  boy  society  is  a  scary  display  of  the  ACLU  philosophy  at  it's  worst.  R.P.  
 


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