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Valerie Martinez

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Dr. Barnett Slepian, an abortionist, was killed by a sniper a few years ago. It seems that extremeists will stop at nothing to stop abortion in the U.S. today. We must remember that murder is wrong and Dr. Slepian did not deserve to be killed just because of what he did. Violence against abortionists is wrong as well. No matter what your views on abortion is, violence against aboritonists and abortion clinics in not right at all.

I found a disgusting site from religious extremeists about the death of Dr. Slepian, if anyone wants to see this despicable site you can click on the link below

despicable site

This is what the world is turning to today when people use their beliefs to exteme, wrongful measures.

(Edited by Valerie Martinez 4/12/2004 at 12:53 PM).

(Edited by Valerie Martinez 4/12/2004 at 12:55 PM).
 


Posts: 36 | Posted: 12:51 PM on April 12, 2004 | IP
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I think you meant to post this in the abortion setion.

Anyway abortionists have sown their false teachings of murdering children now they are reaping what they have sown.

Ho 8:7 - For they sow the wind And they reap the whirlwind. The standing grain has no heads; It yields no grain. Should it yield, strangers would swallow it up.


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Posts: 196 | Posted: 2:18 PM on April 12, 2004 | IP
Valerie Martinez

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Quote from unworthy servant at 2:18 PM on April 12, 2004 :


Anyway abortionists have sown their false teachings of murdering children now they are reaping what they have sown.




Again, this is not correct at all. I don't think they are "reaping what they have sown". I'm assuming of course you also believe God does violence to abortioists and abortion clinics too.


 


Posts: 36 | Posted: 2:37 PM on April 12, 2004 | IP
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Quote from Valerie Martinez at 2:37 PM on April 12, 2004 :Again, this is not correct at all. I don't think they are "reaping what they have sown". I'm assuming of course you also believe God does violence to abortioists and abortion clinics too.


Oh, of course it is true, since they are excluded from the kingdom, also. 1 Cor 6:9-11.





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Posts: 196 | Posted: 5:30 PM on April 12, 2004 | IP
Valerie Martinez

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Quote from unworthy servant at 5:30 PM on April 12, 2004 :

Oh, of course it is true, since they are excluded from the kingdom, also. 1 Cor 6:9-11.




Oh really? I don't see the words "baby killers" as people like you like to call them listed anywhere in the bible especially in 1 Cor 6:9-11.





(Edited by Valerie Martinez 4/14/2004 at 12:22 PM).
 


Posts: 36 | Posted: 12:19 PM on April 14, 2004 | IP
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The word is "unrighteous".  I have shown you the word "murderer" in the other verse that lists the excluded.


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Posts: 196 | Posted: 10:33 PM on April 14, 2004 | IP
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Quote from unworthy servant at 10:33 PM on April 14, 2004 :
The word is "unrighteous".  I have shown you the word "murderer" in the other verse that lists the excluded.



An abortionist is just doing his/her job, it's probably something they don't enjoy doing. I'm sure some don't like putting pets to sleep either. It is a woman's right to choose. Commiting violence against abortionists and abortion clinics is not going to stop abortions. Same reason why adult endertainment stores and bars will always be around.

 


Posts: 36 | Posted: 12:13 PM on April 16, 2004 | IP
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Quote from Valerie Martinez at 12:13 PM on April 16, 2004 :An abortionist is just doing his/her job, it's probably something they don't enjoy doing. I'm sure some don't like putting pets to sleep either.


I have no doubt they love the blood money.  As for them doing their job, Herod's troops were doing their job, too.

Matthew 2:16Then when Herod saw that he had been tricked by the R39 magi, he became very enraged, and sent and slew R40 all the male children who were in Bethlehem and all its vicinity, from two years old and under, according to the time which he had determined from the magi.

2:17Then what had been spoken through Jeremiah the prophet was fulfilled:

2:18"A R41 VOICE WAS HEARD IN RAMAH, WEEPING AND GREAT MOURNING, RACHEL WEEPING FOR HER CHILDREN; AND SHE REFUSED TO BE COMFORTED, BECAUSE THEY WERE NO MORE."


Quote from Valerie Martinez at 12:13 PM on April 16, 2004 : It is a woman's right to choose. Commiting violence against abortionists and abortion clinics is not going to stop abortions. Same reason why adult endertainment stores and bars will always be around.


Wrong on both counts.





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Posts: 196 | Posted: 6:39 PM on April 16, 2004 | IP
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Wrong on both accounts


There were 78 million adult entertainment rentals in NYC alone last year.  And they weren't from the same person.  So on the second count, it will always be around.

On the second count, women don't have the right to choose?  So you are saying that all women who have had babies did not CHOOSE to have babies?  It is a personal choice either way.  For the basic fact that women choose to have babies, they do have the right to choose to have the baby.  So, the first count it is right.

On the third count, abortions will not end.  Humans do evil things to their bodies all of the time.  They are in effect harming their bodies with every undietary food that they eat, any unnatural substance, any wrong action.  Also, as long as people, both those who choose and who do not choose to have baby will always commit abortion.  In the Bible it discusses the topic of masturbation and why it is wrong.  BECAUSE YOU ARE KILLING BABIES!  Everyone is guilty of abortion.  Just some choose to do it a later date.

None of this justifies killing someone over their actions.  How do you know they don't pray and ask for repentance after each abortion?  We don't.  They may be aware that what they are doing is wrong, but like Valerie said, they are doing their job.  Do you like supporting homosexuals every time you get a paycheck?  Do you ask for forgiveness after every paycheck? Your actions may contradict your views as well.  Again Satan has infiltrated the weak.
 


Posts: 73 | Posted: 02:23 AM on April 18, 2004 | IP
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Guess what!  If youhave been paying attention to the news there is a big AIDS scre in the porn industry as a large number of their "stars" (fornicators) have contracted AIDS.  The plague is back!


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Posts: 196 | Posted: 08:47 AM on April 18, 2004 | IP
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Read my other post.  It never left.

People who have unsafe sex are responsible, not GOD.  The disease doesn't create itself.  It spreads.

How do you account for the millions of Christian children in Africa who live unmaterialistic lives under GOD and follow Jesus who have contracted AIDS?  What is your reasoning for it being sent over there?

It's from unsafe sex, free will, not GOD.

None of this relates to the killing of abortionists anyway.
 


Posts: 73 | Posted: 02:52 AM on April 19, 2004 | IP
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[b]It's from unsafe sex, free will, not GOD. None of this relates to the killing of abortionists anyway.


God isn't preforming abortions either.  Doesn't relate?  Then why did you bring it up to start with?





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Posts: 196 | Posted: 09:24 AM on April 19, 2004 | IP
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I didn't bring it up.  Valerie and then you mentioned it.   Just expanding on your fallacies and defending Valerie.

It is human-will that causes the spread of diseases, abortions or any other thing that it is controllable.  That is how it relates.  
 


Posts: 73 | Posted: 12:32 AM on April 20, 2004 | IP
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Quote from unworthy servant at 6:39 PM on April 16, 2004 :

"I have no doubt they love the blood money.  As for them doing their job, Herod's troops were doing their job, too."

Who knows maybe some do, but you're trying to say here that ALL abortionists love what they do and sterotyping them is wrong.  I remember when I was in school a man who worked in an abortion clinic talked to my health class about his work. He admitted it's something he didn't enjoy doing but he was doing it only because he needed to make a living. Remember, while abortion may be wrong that's no reason to threaten the lives of abortionists with terroism to put them out of business! If abortion is murder then you can't have it both ways claiming that killing abortionists is not murder and not wrong itself.


"Wrong on both counts."


Again, this is just your opinion on judging people and not knowing them personally.





 


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