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Natasha1988

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Gay/Lesbians NEED equal rights!!! Gay marriages should be legal in every state! Who is anyone to tell someone they can't be happy. If two people are in love they deserve the right to make love. I wasn't aware that they were physically harming anyone. It's time people realize that it is 2007... times are different. In this day and age we need to except one another.
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Posts: 2 | Posted: 3:40 PM on November 4, 2007 | IP
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Gays are not entitled to any special rights. The constitution says nothing about the "rights" of marriage. Gays ARE treated equal. Under the Constitution, gays are offered the same rights heterosexuals. Liberals need to stop basing policies on "feelings" and emotions, and instead use logic and facts.


 


Posts: 12 | Posted: 6:21 PM on November 7, 2007 | IP
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Emotions are irrelevant.


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Posts: 681 | Posted: 6:59 PM on November 22, 2007 | IP
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I think Civil Unions is a great alternative and the gay commuity is not against it... it gives all the basic rights as marrage.

Marrage originally was nothing more that a finacial arrangement between families and tribes which is really what Civil Unions are. If the US wants to keep marrage between a man and a woman, so be it, but give gays Civil Unions.


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Posts: 40 | Posted: 4:42 PM on November 24, 2007 | IP
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I'm all for gay marriages.
http://www.gay2share.com/haveyoursay_portal.php
check it out and vote on the poll
 


Posts: 1 | Posted: 10:06 PM on December 2, 2007 | IP
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Why does it seem to be acceptable to be anti-gay marriage to many liberal democrats as long as you are not making anti-gay comments. Denying gay people their civil rights and the legal supports granted to relationships is discriminatory. Whether or not say it is a sin or are quoting from the bible, in my mind anything less than supporting all the rights that are given to married couples is plain and simple discrimination. The constitution says we are all equal under the law.  Some distort the demand for simple fairness into a claim for "special rights," and portray the principle of non-discrimination as a bid for privilege. The truth is these are basic rights granted to all under the law. Do we check and see if a man is a child molester or engages in domestic abuse before he is allowed to get married?
Another interesting thing is that actually in many cases civil unions are not enough to provide the protection in the law that gay relationships deserve.  Many people still don't realize that even if the states grant gay marriage or civil union privileges, in all cases but Massachusetts these are watered down rights. In all cases any privileges granted by the states do not grant an equal share of rights as what is given to heterosexual couples. This is because the rights and benefits granted by the FEDERAL government to marriage still are not extended to gays and this is something no politician cares to discuss.
If this was racial or gender discrimination it would be a huge issue in this and every election. The sad truth is that there are just not enough gay people to push the momentum and non-gay people are not willing to put their necks out to fight against this injustice.
 


Posts: 1 | Posted: 6:57 PM on January 4, 2008 | IP
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Quote from sstrang at 3:21 PM on November 7, 2007 :
Gays are not entitled to any special rights. The constitution says nothing about the "rights" of marriage. Gays ARE treated equal. Under the Constitution, gays are offered the same rights heterosexuals. Liberals need to stop basing policies on "feelings" and emotions, and instead use logic and facts.





You are incorrect. Not being allowed to marry your partner is NOT EQUAL. How can you possibly even state Gay Americans receive the same rights? We spend 20 years with a partner, and can not file taxes jointly. We still have issues regarding seeing loved ones when in hospitals, and yes some prevent it and get legal ways to prevent it.

 Gay couples, who have children they raise, run into issues that ARE NOT EQUAL. I am sure you have seen it in the news before. Other issues regarding insurance, event of death laws, are being over thrown by Christian politicians.

Fact: It is not a "Special right" to marry a person you love because you are 2 men or 2 women. It is a special right currently reserved for Heterosexual couple’s based on bias religious influence that is destroying the fabric of the constitution of this nation. The sad truth is, our nation is not free. It is not equal.

 Don't use the "Bible" to argue it. The issue with the bible is the times it has been altered, and added onto through history been men. It can be argues that it is the word of god. Yet it can also be argued that it is the word of man written by those claiming they were spoken to by god. God never wrote the bible, the hand of man wrote the words, and many are stories passed down over time. Words change over time.

 According the  law of this nation, no religion is greater then the other, and we have freedom to worship as we please as individuals. We separate Church and state, yet, states that banned it, did so based on church. They have violated the constitution by doing so. Making the constitution VOID and that scares me.

 So once again. The special rights you speak of are reserved for a heterosexual couple, and refused to gay couple. Gay marriage will not give any Special rights to gay Americans, but extend the same rights. I have no clue how you confused the  two, but I am glad I was able to clear that up for you.


(Edited by Scottd 1/16/2008 at 9:20 PM).

(Edited by Scottd 1/16/2008 at 9:20 PM).


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You state the bible condems Gay love. But the also also allows slavery and states woman serve their husband and are less then them, but you do not obey that? It is clear the bible has been rewritten by man, and the word of god is lost.
 


Posts: 16 | Posted: 9:11 PM on January 16, 2008 | IP
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I believe that being a homosexual isnt a choice! Love is limitless, and you cant help whom you are in love with! I believe in equal rights, because no only is there a soft spot in my heart for the gay community, but i dont hink anyone has the right to tell an individual what they can, or cannot do, just because of their sexual preference! just saying!
 


Posts: 1 | Posted: 12:35 AM on October 6, 2008 | IP
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I really can't believe this...
 


Posts: 2 | Posted: 12:49 PM on May 19, 2009 | IP
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Why is this issue so important to you (gay peoples)?
I mean, I don't get it...
So lets start with this...
What is more important, the "title" of marriage, or the benefits?  
 


Posts: 2 | Posted: 12:50 PM on May 19, 2009 | IP
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I think the “issue” that is so important to “gay peoples” my dear Yurgen is predominantly the benefits... why shouldn't everyone be given the same opportunities and rights? Why should people be discriminated against for something that's not their choice?

In Western society we've done a pretty decent job so far in providing equality to previously undermined groups... women may now speak in public, get a job, even run a country (which is unthinkable in biblical teaching, and even up until the early 1900s there were medical reports published on women’s “medically proven deficiencies” to achieve such things) and racism is almost a distant memory (I’m pretty sure that black people have equal rights to whites now, what with the president of the United States being a black man). Who’d have thought it? *gasp*

People do not choose to be gay, just as you cannot choose your race and gender. I find it absolutely astonishing and quite hilarious that people are so ignorant and unintelligent in this day and age that they can still try and use that as an argument!




(Edited by BritVic 6/19/2009 at 1:33 PM).

(Edited by BritVic 6/19/2009 at 1:34 PM).
 


Posts: 2 | Posted: 1:31 PM on June 19, 2009 | IP
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I have the same demands as you have, friend.. I think it will take some time for the society to accept us.. I want to keep on trying for our rights.. I'm planning to join a group, which works towards getting gay/lesbian rights..
 


Posts: 11 | Posted: 04:35 AM on June 16, 2011 | IP
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Quote from roberthere at 03:35 AM on June 16, 2011 :
I have the same demands as you have, friend.. I think it will take some time for the society to accept us.. I want to keep on trying for our rights.. I'm planning to join a group, which works towards getting gay/lesbian rights..


I am not gay, and as such I don't really know what it is like to live on the other side of society so to say. Outside of the marriage issue, what else do you have to go through because of your sexual orientation?


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Posts: 551 | Posted: 12:12 AM on June 17, 2011 | IP
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I am not gay, and as such I don't really know what it is like to live on the other side of society so to say. Outside of the marriage issue, what else do you have to go through because of your sexual orientation?


i've found that you experience different things whether you're in denial, in the closet or openly out. these are probably different for everyone, but these are my experiences.

when you've been in denial for quite awhile (the first 19 yrs of my life), you turn into a living husk of yourself. i was so terrified of emotions that i literally turned them off. i was a perfectionist that misconstrued the approval of others as happiness.  i always put the job at hand and other people before myself. it sounds noble, but it was because i had zero feeling of self worth. the only emotion that seemed to have always been there was guilt.

when you're no longer in denial, but before you're fully accepting of yourself, there's the self loathing.  and this loathing is deeper than any hatred a bigot can feel towards gays.  it's the reason comments of hatred can bounce right off me now, but i get fired up when people claim being gay is a "choice". it's not a choice. i tried making myself be straight. i slept with guy after guy and each time they reached for a rubber i wanted to tell him no.  they would have stopped, they were nice guys, but i made myself. i always regretted it and i always wanted them to stop once they started. i wish i could have said stop. i couldn't, though, because it was all my fault. it was expected of me to sleep with guys and if i didn't like it, it was all my fault. i wish i could have said stop. i would detach myself like i had learned from the first 19 yrs of my life and would wait for it to be over. every time it was over i felt violated and dirty and thought that i deserved to feel that way. every time i would do something remotely gay with a girl, i would turn around and sleep with a guy.

then there's the guilt. you feel guilty for being happy. how dare you do this to your parents and siblings? they did nothing wrong and deserve normal lives free from the shame of having a gay family member. who are you to put that burden on them? how dare you put your happiness before theirs? why are you not strong enough to just live in depression and loneliness and seclusion for their sakes?

and there's the loneliness and depression that accompanies a life devoid of intimacy. and i don't even mean sex or kissing. there's no holding hands, there's no playful elbow nudging while you walk, there is no one to exchange a look with you across the room. there comes a point when you realize there is zero chance that you're going to make a girl you have feelings for look at you in the way girls do when they meet a guy. and it's going to happen over and over and over and over again. and i can attest to the fact that it's not the same as a guy having "no chance" with a girl because he's not her type or she isn't attracted to him because i've been around lesbians i'm not attracted to or they're not attracted to me. here's an analogy: if a girl is a yacht and the boy she likes is the ocean (yachts go in oceans) and a boy that has "no chance" with her is like a desert, being a lesbian is like being the moon. while it would only be weird if a yacht was found in the desert, there is 0 chance a yacht can travel to the moon. so yeah, if you can't find another lesbian (it took me 22 yrs), you live in an intimacy vacuum.

as to my life now, i get to fend off guys who are convinced they can turn me straight, pretend i'm straight when my hair stylist or manicurist asks if i have a boyfriend because it's easier not to correct them, take self defense lessons twice a week ever since i was attacked at a party i didn't even hit on anyone at, and when i go out with my roommate and his friends i stay with the guys and shoot pool because the girls won't dance in a group with me since i'm obviously attracted to every woman on the planet if i'm a lesbian.

but i mean, i like being a lesbian. girls smell better and have softer skin than guys ;)
 


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