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|A War for the Hearts and Minds of Humanity
Pedophilia as a Civil Right
Arguments in favor of pedophilia have started to emerge in the media and academic journals, promoted by a small group of academics at various universities. They claim that the word "pedophilia" is commonly misunderstood, so they seek to change the language and move away from "pedophilia," which evokes unpleasant thoughts. They would prefer to use more neutral terms such as "intergenerational sex" or "adult-child sex." The "scholars" (child abusers) hope that with more "research" (propaganda and lies) it will only be a matter of time before society accepts adult-child sex, just as it has learned to accept virtually every other perversion.
"Children are the last bastion of the old sexual morality," wrote one of the pedophile promoters, Harris Mirkin, an associate professor of political science at the University of Missouri-Kansas City.(16)
"What the pedophiles are looking for is some group of professionals to champion their cause," said Stephanie Dallam, a Leadership Council(17) researcher. "Then they'll come up with a derogatory term to deride anyone who disagrees with them. Their claim will be to objective science, even though their science is sloppy and terrible."
Of course, in the future, if parents should objects to their innocent children being sexually abused, then the parents would be branded as "bigots", "pedophilephobes" and other derogatory hate speech. These monsters have learned from experience, that many people in modern society are so shallow and amoral, that they can be coerced into supporting virtually any perversion, all they have to do is change the name of it, and stupid people think that it is some how magically transformed into a pleasant and acceptable behavior. The Journal of Child Sexual Abuse included an article that states that the strategy in normalizing pedophilia is to hide the reality of what they're doing by removing the term "child sexual abuse" from acts in which the child agrees to be seduced.
The International Pedophile and Child Emancipation group (IPCE), promotes child abuse through media propaganda, phony academic papers and online discussions that exchange information about seducing children.
"In any campaign to win over the public, gays must be portrayed as victims in need of protection so that straights will be inclined by reflex to adopt the role of protector... the purpose of victim imagery is to make straights feel very uncomfortable; that is, to jam with shame the self-righteous pride that would ordinarily accompany and reward their antigay belligerence, and to lay the groundwork for the process of conversion by helping straights identify with gays and sympathize with their underdog status," So proclaimed queer writers Marshall Kirk & Hunter Madsen in "After the Ball: How America will Conquer its Fear and Hatred of Gays in the 1990s."(1)
Dr. Virgina Uribe, Founder of "Project 10,11 a Los Angeles Unified pro-queer counseling program, advocates, "Starting from Kindergarten, again and working its way all the way through high school. This idea of talking about it one time in high school, well we know that doesn't work. We need to start tackling this at the very early ages. This is war ... As far as I'm concerned, there's no room for conscientious objectors. We've got to be involved in this war."(1)
So it is now openly declared. This war is against everyone's children, it is against the family, marriage, moral decency and the future of humanity itself. What Michael Swift(1) called, "the vicious heterosexual enemy." There can be no conscientious objectors because no one in good conscience can remain neutral. Political queers are using the media and the schools to recruit and seduce young children by teaching them to consider homosodomy as both acceptable and normal, it softens vulnerable children up and makes them easier targets for pedophiles. Kids who have been told by television, teachers and politicians that same sex experimentation is acceptable and that objecting to it is intolerant will be more willing to accept the advances of an adult of the same sex. After all, their teachers are telling them that being unwilling to accept experimentation is "homophobic." Its the same specious reasoning as an immature kid daring another kid to do something they both know is wrong by saying, 'whatsamatta -- chicken?'
Dr. Judith Reisman,(5) who wrote Crafting 'Gay' Children: An Inquiry into the Abuse of Vulnerable Youth Via Establishment Media and the School Room and Partner Solicitation Language as a Reflection of Male Sexual Orientation, says, "They tell these impressionable kids that if they feel different, confused, strange, or if they are questioning, that they may be gay. What child isn't confused at that age, anyway? These kids don't know what to think, and then they're told it's OK to experiment to find out."
Virginia Uribe founded "Project 10,11" in the Los Angeles Unified school district in 1984 "specifically to promote homosexuality at the High School and Junior High levels," says Steve Baldwin,(1) "this program targets students believed to be "confused about their orientation," then puts them in touch with gay community groups for "counseling." Some of the questions asked to determine if a child is confused are highly leading: "Do you feel like you just don't have any information about what its like to be a gay or lesbian?" "If the student answers "correctly" to any of the questions, they are given pro-gay literature and referred to adult homosexual groups. LAUSD refers students to the "Gay and Lesbian Community Center." Project 10 literature encourages students to "find their lover at the local gay center." There is no parental consent required for counseling in California, so parents will have no knowledge of Project 10. Project 10 materials advise students not to consult with their parents until they are firmly entrenched in the homosexual lifestyle because "parents ... are part of a guilty society, a homophobic society."(1)
Donna Minkowitz encouraged fags to "Recruit, recruit, recruit!" in a column in "The Advocate," the county's leading queer publication: " 'Next, we'll hear from a gay woman who say it's all about recruiting, Montel Williams announced. That gay woman was me I was about to go on Williams shows and talk about children, sexual choices, and the reason we need pro-gay curricula in our public schools ... I am increasingly impatient with the old chestnut that our movement for public acceptance has not increased and will not increase the number of gay men and lesbians in existence.... Firmly believing this, I wanted to go on the show to argue the morality of teaching kids that gay is OK even if it means that some will join [o]ur ranks."(1)
Allyson Smith(8) told that "dozens of high school-aged kids, had the opportunity to receive a "Visitor's Companion" that advertised Chicago's homosexual "leather" bars, a sex club and a homosexual bathhouse called "Steamworks," which was advertised as a "24-hour men's gym/sauna."
There are politicians all over the country at all levels who are now promoting the queer agenda and supporting open child abuse in the schools while passing legislation to make it tougher for parents to protect their children from it. Teachers' unions openly promote a pro-queer agenda and curriculum in the schools. The major media writes pro-queer propaganda while hatefully attacking those who oppose their evil agenda. "National Coming Out Day" and "Gay and Lesbian Pride Month" are promoted nationally with activists urging schools to sponsor pro-gay programs on those dates.
In Gilbert Herdt's book, "Gay and Lesbian Youth," Douglas Feldman, a medical anthropologist and a queer activist, is quoted as saying, "These kids are our future and we must invest in them."
According to Bresnahan, "Herdt speaks of adult male homosexuals as "coaches" and "guides" [pedophiles] who should help [seduce] young boys overcome their heterosexual "victim" status by "coming out" into homosexuality."
In his study, "The Role of Adult Advisors" (as quoted from Herdt's "Gay Culture in America"), homosexual advocate Frederick Lynch says, "What has not been brought out fully in some other coming-out studies is the role of the guide, teacher or 'helping hand' [known to most people as pedophiles] in either the signification state, the coming-out stage or both ... the often benign and helpful role that older, more experienced homosexual men play with regard to younger (males)."
Dr. Reisman(5) says, "They teach confused children about tolerance, sexual diversity and such. They like to tell young boys that 'at least one in 10 of you are gay.' Anyone who objects is immediately labeled homophobic."
The main Project 10 textbook is "One in Ten: Testimony of Gay and Lesbian Youth" which actually describes the seduction of children by gay teachers. Here is one passage: "I am a sixteen-year-old lesbian. I have been a lesbian since I was twelve. I had known my dance teacher for three years before I was asked to give a special dance presentation in another city.... 'I want to make love to you. Let's go to bed. (my teacher said). She positioned me on the bed with my head on a pillow and my legs spread as wide as she could get them. Before long she was getting her face closer to me and kissing me; using her mouth and tongue on my c .... I became a lesbian and a woman that weekend."(9)
"The intolerant homosexual establishment is out of line," Campaign for California Families director Randy Thomasson said. "They are not only targeting children for indoctrination, they're targeting pro-family voices like Dr. Laura for destruction."
NAMBLA,(11) a notorious groups of pedophiles, argues to change society's attitudes about adults sexually abusing children, to weaken societies natural protective concerns as they lobby to lower the age-of-consent. NAMBLA says it "speaks out against societal oppression and celebrates the joys of men and boys in love."
It celebrates the sexual abuse of children. NAMBLA has members who are known pedophiles and publishes literate that instructs men in how to seduce young boys. Family advocacy groups have sued NAMBLA for inciting pedophilia.
A manual(2) approved by San Francisco Unified trains speakers in how to handle uncomfortable questions about adults sexually abusing children. Here is an excerpt: "What about man/boy love? This question is usually not phrased in this way. Members of the audience usually ask, 'What do you think about men having sex with little boys?' or 'How do you feel about men raping little boys?' It is important to immediately label the topic as intergenerational sex', to point out that it is an issue that is not exclusive to the gay community, and to distinguish between consensual sex and forcible rape.... the media has recently given a lot of publicity to the North American Man-Boy Love Association (NAMBLA) and almost always described that group's function as encouraging child molestation. NAMBLA's main purpose is support, not sex, and not rape. NAMBLA maybe is singled out for attack because it is a gay organization."(1)
Clair Connelly, President of the Gay & Lesbian Resource Center of Ventura County and a certified Red Cross AIDS educator, has testified before Congress that the gay community is abusing federal AIDS funds to do the following in California schools:
Conduct explicit AIDS education programs "that encourage promiscuity" and that invite children to private "educational classes" where they are "enticed into homosexual relationships."
"Graphically demonstrate anal intercourse ... fisting, rimming, and bondage."
"Distribute gay and lesbian pornography to students and exchange phone numbers."
Parental consent is rarely obtained.
Steve Baldwin reports9)
"Gay teachers from San Leandro High School routinely take dozens of gay students to march in the annual "Gay Freedom" parade in San Francisco." (9)
"Project 10 distributes literature which clearly encourages promiscuity. This is illegal and punishable by law." (9)
The NEA publishes a flier titled, "Teaching and Counseling Gay and Lesbian Students," which states, "The Association further believes that every school district should provide counseling by trained personnel for students who are struggling with the sexual/gender orientation." (9)
"The last point means that K-12 students would be put in touch with adult homosexual groups, a common feature of all prohomosexual school counseling programs."..."Many California Public schools have pro-gay counseling programs...no parental consent is required."(9)
Incredibly, teachers unions "also assist gay teachers arrested for sexual misconduct and nearly all gay teacher groups publicize the "Arrested Teachers Hotline" phone number in their newsletters. This same hotline is listed in the "Gay & Lesbian Telephone Book for Los Angeles and Orange County."(9)
"Alyson Press(11) publishes "The Age of Taboo," an anthology of pedophile writings and the publisher, Sasha Alyson, maintains that "man/boy" love is a "civil rights" issue. Who would have ever thought that our schools, whom we trust with our children, would help maximize the profits of those who promote pedophilia? Incredibly, such views have not stopped the gay community from promoting Alyson Press as the nation's premier publisher of gay textbooks for youth," wrote Steve Baldwin.(9)
At Teachout 2001, at Tufts University, Planned Parenthood of Massachusetts distributed kits for fisting and oral sex to school children. They also offered issues of a magazine called “Radical Teacher”, one of which had articles titled, “Strange Bedfellows. Thoughts on the Bans Against Faculty-Student Sexual Relations and How They Can Hurt Us,” and “Teaching Outside the Curriculum: Guerilla Sex Education and the Public Schools.”
In 1994, The Diagnostic and Statistical Manual, Vol 1V, removed pedophilia from it's sexual perversion list.
This comes from a website called Dyxploitation:
1. "Kill everyone who doesn't like lesbians...Don't waste time trying to change people's minds. Just kill them!"
2. "Recruit little girls into "the lesbian lifestyle." Since we don't reproduce at a high enough rate to keep us supplied with sex partners, we should go after children. Children make the best sex partners - just ask my fifth grade teacher!"
Dyxploitation proclaims: "Come the revolution none of this Dr Laura shit is going to go anymore. She'll be dead. None of this religious shit is going to go anymore. All churches will be converted into dazzling nightclubs, or abortion clinics - or a combination nightclub abortion clinic! Ex-gays won't whine and bother us with their sad mailings. They'll be put out of their misery."
The current mayors of San Francisco and New York City choose to march in "homosexual pride" parades, along with a self-identified group of proud and practicing pedophiles -- NAMBLA.
Jerry Falwell(3) warns, "The homosexual community has quietly embraced NAMBLA. A group called the Spirit of Stonewall, in a June 26, 1994, article titled "NAMBLA Marches With Us," wrote, "NAMBLA's record as a responsible gay organization is well known. NAMBLA was spawned by the gay community and has been in every major gay and lesbian march. It has demonstrated in solidarity with people with AIDS, and for lesbians in custody cases."
"It is high time our nation realizes that what was once a dark social undercurrent is becoming mainstream and gaining unbelievable respectability," says Jerry Falwell,(3) "The result of this continuing moral chaos will be that more and more children will fall victim to these venomous sexual predators -- while leftist social engineers continue their campaign to minimize the devastating consequences of their vile actions."
In order to gain sympathy and to argue for special rights and privileges, the queers like to compare sodomy to race and argue that someone being against same sex sodomy for moral reasons is the equivalent of racism. They insult everyone by equating moral indignation against their revolting lifestyle to racism -- everyone is a member of some racial group, but everyone is not a homosodomite. Fortyone Los Angeles area black ministers sent an open letter to representatives condemning the equation of an immoral perversion with race, it ran in a local publication called "The Wave" and said, in part: "Teaching children to approve of [homosexual] conduct is something our community should not and will not put up with,"..."The homosexual agenda goes against what parents want and children need. Sexual behavior should not be equated with race, anytime or anywhere."
Rev. Jesse Lee Peterson, a black pastor from Los Angeles, and a member of the Brotherhood Organization of a New Destiny, a national, non-profit organization dedicated to "rebuilding the family by rebuilding the man," said, "Homosexuals are trying to use black people by saying that this is a civil-rights issue, and it's not. It's an offense to me to be associated with a perverted lifestyle."
Even a member of France's Radical Left party, a minor member of the ruling Socialist-led coalition, can't stomach the homosodomite agenda. Senator Fran?is Abadie, a former mayor of Lourdes and minister for tourism who now sits in the French upper house for the Hautes-Pyr??s region called(4) queers "abnormal destroyers of humanity" and said he "could not be favourable" to them or their demands. He said homosexuality was "contrary to all norms" and posed "a permanent danger of paedophilia". Other extreme, leftist, destroyers of humanity immediately condemned the remarks. Jean-Luc Romero, a regional counselor and Aids worker, demanded that Abadie be "prosecuted for incitement of homophobia."
"If you dare to cry faggot, fairy, queer, at us, we will stab you in your cowardly hearts and defile your dead, puny bodies," threatened faggot terrorist Michael Swift.(4)
"There will be no compromises. We are not middle-class weaklings. Highly intelligent, we are the natural aristocrats of the human race, and steely-minded aristocrats never settle for less. Those who oppose us will be exiled. We shall raise vast, private armies, as Mishima did, to defeat you," declared the Gay Community News.(4) "We shall conquer the world because warriors inspired by and banded together by homosexual love and honor are as invincible as were the ancient Greek soldiers. The family unit spawning ground of lies, betrayals, mediocrity, hypocrisy, and violence will be abolished. The family unit, which only dampens imagination and curbs free will, must be eliminated. Perfect boys will be conceived and grown in the genetic laboratory. They will be bonded together in a communal setting, under the control and instruction of homosexual savants", the criminally insane fagot terrorist Michael Swift(4) warned.
The Gay Community News(4) declares, "We shall be victorious because we are fueled with the ferocious bitterness of the oppressed who have been forced to play seemingly bit parts in your dumb, heterosexual shows throughout the ages. We too are capable of firing guns and manning the barricades of the ultimate revolution. Tremble, hetero swine, when we appear before you without our masks!"
Justin Raimondo(6), who is "gay" said: "Homosexuals are and always will be a rarity, a tiny minority necessarily outside of the traditional family. The heterosexual “bias” of social institutions is not something that needs to be imposed on a reluctant society by an oppressive state, but a predilection that comes quite naturally and inevitably. If this is “homophobia,” then nature is a bigot. If gays use the power of the state to correct this historic “injustice,” they are engaged in an act of belligerence which will rightly be seen as a challenge to the primacy of the traditional family."
They must stop politicizing their perversion. He said; "This would begin the vital process of depoliticizing homosexuality and defusing a dangerous culture war the gay minority can never win."...
"As a specialized contingent of an army dedicated to ramming “multicultural” socialism down the throats of the American people, the gay lobby capitalizes on the worst insecurities of its constituents. Holding up the bogeyman of the “Religious Right” to keep the troops in line"..."But in fact no major religious conservative has called for legal measures against homosexuals. The Christian Coalition, the Eagle Forum, and other grassroots conservative activists only involved themselves in supposedly “anti-gay” political activities defensively, in working to overturn gay rights legislation that attacked their most deeply held beliefs." ...
He warns that the "leadership of the gay movement is playing with fire. The great tragedy is that they will not be the only ones burned. The volatility of the issues they are raising—which involve religion, family, and the most basic assumptions of what it is to be human—risks a social explosion for which they must be held accountable. The boldness of the attempt to introduce a “gay positive” curriculum into the public schools, the militant victim stance that brooks no questioning, the blunt intolerance once they gain power in urban ghettos like San Francisco–all this, combined with the fact that the gay rights paradigm itself represents an intolerable invasion of liberty, is bound to produce a reaction from the majority."(6)
David Finkelhor, in Child Sexual Abuse, reported that there is a "body of opinion and research [that] has emerged in recent years which is trying hard to vindicate homosexual pedophilia."
The Traditional Values Coalition(7) reported that: "In Europe, homosexual activists are openly lobbying for the abolition of age of consent laws so they can freely sodomize children. The British homosexual group OutRage! is one of many groups working to legalize adult/child sex. The Dutch Association for the Integration of Homosexuality (DAIH) has lobbied in Holland for an end to the prohibition against adult/child sex."
"We shall sodomize your sons, emblems of your feeble masculinity, of you shallow dreams and vulgar lies. We shall seduce them in your schools, in your dormitories, in your gymnasiums, in your locker rooms, in your sports arenas, in your seminaries, in your youth groups, in your movie theater bathrooms, in your army bunkhouses, in your truck stops, in your all-male clubs, in your houses of Congress, wherever men are with men together. Your sons shall become our minions and do our bidding. They will be recast in our image. They will come to crave and adore us." So declared the Gay Community News.(4)
Last year a mother in Massachusetts became worried when her son started attending meetings of his high school’s "Gay/Straight Alliance" club. She discovered that the kids had watched at least one obscene R-rated video of two boys having a homosodomite affair and she found some objectionable handouts in his room. When his behavior changed and he became detached, she began to suspect that he was experimenting with homosodomy. When she voiced her concerns about the type of material and influences to which her son was being exposed, the principal refused to even look into it, nor would any other officials. These "officials" should be arrested and prosecuted for child abuse, instead, they suggested that "maybe she was homophobic." Next the desperate mother turned to the elected officials, you know, the ones who are always claiming to know what's best for you and your children and who violate the constitution to "protect" children from free speech on the Internet and suggest that you sacrifice more of your rights "for the children." She and a group of concerned parents went to the Massachusetts capitol to appeal to the Governor’s office. But no one from the Governor’s office would even speak to any of the parents. I'll bet if they said their were queers and wanted to introduce a program for seducing children into perversion he would have welcomed them into his office and discussed ways they can work together to steal parent's money and use it to abuse their children. Finally, a Department of Public Health official listened to them, but afterwards would not return their calls. A few days later, a Boston queer newspaper, Bay Windows, published an attack article warning that "bigoted, homophobic parents were trying to endanger the money for the state’s gay school clubs," wrote Scott Whiteman.(10)
A women's health conference at Penn State University featured an outspoken advocate of pedophilia and sadomasochism as a keynote speaker. So twisted have become the minds of the social poisoners that a Conference on Women's Health and Wellness is now used to literally destroy women and teach child abuse. Patrick Califia-Rice, a self-described "transgendered bisexual person," spoke of its journey from "female to male sexuality."
Califia-Rice, the author of such stupid garbage as "Macho Sluts" and "Public Sex: The Culture of Radical Sex", also promotes pedophilia. NAMBLA includes this quote from Califia-Rice on its website:
"Boy-lovers and the lesbians who have young lovers are the only people offering a hand to help young women and men cross the difficult terrain between straight society and the gay community. They are not child molesters. The child abusers are priests, teachers, therapists, cops and parents who force their stale morality onto the young people in their custody. Instead of condemning pedophiles for their involvement with lesbian and gay youth, we should be supporting them."
Tom Ambrose(14) warns that queer fascists "are trying to destroy our way of life – life that was given to us from the time of Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve. And they are succeeding. Indeed, they have gone way too far. And we have let them...What homosexuals do in their bedroom is between them and God. But what they do on our school boards and in our legislatures and churches is all of our business and we had better come to terms with this nasty fact of life soon before we lose our rights – and our children – to this twisted perversion of life."
In a "gay" magazine,(15) queer activists' discussed their strategy and spoke frankly about its negative consequences:
"Political activism has changed the face of homo-sexuality, it has created new forms of identity, bath houses, pornography, sex venues, erotic festivals and a drug culture. Politicisation has also made homo-sexuality in some ways a type of "cult" phenomena, where recruitment, and social conditioning are necessary to create a sense of collectivity and solidarity. The same phenomena is not a feature only of the homosexual movement. It occurs whenever a minority group is recruited by some vanguard of social change as "alienated" dissidents. Workers have frequently been "mobilised" by "champions of the oppressed" by appeal to their "exploited" status or disadvantage. They are fed images and rhetoric about the "enemy" capitalism, the factory employer, big business, or the system, and internalise these fears and resentments. Women were successfully mobilised by feminists and gained significant political clout, again using techniques which encourage solidarity, loyalty to the "cause" and a common front against the "patriarchial" enemy or against "sexist" society."
The tragic side effects of a victim syndrome
"Young people, faced with a constant stream of negative information from those they trust and depend on (gay activists) that they will be hated, rejected, thrown out of home and job and bashed, not only forces homo-sexuals to cling to their support group, but destroys self esteem, and creates anger and intense fear. People subjected to such constant negativity are bitter, suspicious, and hostile to outsiders", wrote Kirk and Pill.(15)
But, this can be exploited and used as a political weapon. "A minority has its own kind of aggression. It absolutely dares the majority to attack it" (Christopher Isherwood in Altman, 1993, 47).
"Their internalised fears and anger causes them to provoke negative responses in others, thus sustaining and reinforcing the myth constructed by those who exploit them. In many cases such sustained internalised negativity can lead to poor health, depression and self destructive behaviour. The maintenance of fear and isolation in young recruits may also provide older homo-sexuals with opportunities for oppressive sexual exploitation of insecure adolescents," Kirk and Pill admitted.(15)
"It seems, in view of the alternatives and realities of life, that homo-sexual activists are selective in their "negative conditioning" of young people for political ends, at the expense of wellbeing, and in some cases leading to tragic loss of life", they said.
The queer fascists create these psychological problems and then exploit them by using their "recruits" in their war against the human family in the same way Hitler used his Storm Troopers. When the religious right supports political violence (legislation) to outlaw adult consensual activities or supports violence against innocent people because of their private sexual orientation it creates victims that are filled with hatred and revenge against society. As in all wars, a war against consensual private behavior has negative social consequences that leads to reprisals that harm innocent non-combatants. But, the extremists who support violence against homosodomites are a very small minority. Most people, including most conservative Christians, don't support or condone violence against homosodomites, it's the politically active queers who need to create the perception that everyone who practices homosodomy must band together through an unfounded fear of a society that wants to imprison or kill them, and that they must destroy that society and its institutions, its culture and values and even the family and [hetero]sexuality itself. The truth about this dangerous movement is now coming to light and people who were inclined to be tolerant toward homosodomy are discovering that the queer political movement is a threat to their rights, to their religion and to their children. As libertarians we support the right of all adults to engage in any consensual behavior they choose as long as they don't threaten or violate the rights of other people. It has become apparent through the queer activists' own rhetoric and political actions that they are using the act of sodomy as a idol around which to build a hateful, fascist political movement that threatens everyone's freedom and the well being of children.
The queer fascists are hypocrites who promote androgynism, homosodomy and condemn anyone who doesn't agree with that lifestyle because of sincerely held beliefs or doesn't want it imposed on themselves or taught to their children. It is the queers who are imposing their lifestyle on others, attacking marriage, the family and ridiculing the natural, moral roles between the sexes and demanding that taxpayers foot the bill for them to promote their agenda. It is the queers who are intolerant of anyone saying or even thinking that homosodomy is wrong. They're intolerant of individuals being free to do what they want in private as long as they don't impose it on others, and they're intolerant of parents being able to protect their children from being seduced into their perversion. This is indeed a war, it is much more serious and has far higher stakes than the political wars recently fought by the United States against other countries, only this war is being fought against you and your children. You must choose which side you are on, either your chidlrens' or the pedophiles'.
-- Liberation Journal; July 28, 2001 (21/4/5002) by Dean Sullivan