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KC as aff you start


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Posts: 789 | Posted: 6:35 PM on November 24, 2002 | IP
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The death penalty is one of those subjects that I can't seem to take a side on.

On one hand, I don't think that anyone has the right to put another person to death.

But then again, should we spend billions of dollars on people who commit horrible crimes like murder, raping children, serial killing?

I lean towards the former because people have reasons for doing what they do.  People who kill usually do so out of anger.  They are so overcome with anger that they can't control themselves.  

I am in no way saying that what they do is not wrong.  Being "mad" is not an excuse for killing.  But the point I"m trying to make is that we all do crazy and even violent things when we're overcome with emotions, such as anger.  And for that reason, I believe that (most) people who kill are just regular people like us, the only difference being that they are unable or not as good at controlling themselves under pressure.

So, where do I stand?
I say either let's shi_ or get off the pot!  If we're going to spend billions of dollars on these people, let's use it to try to rehab them so that they can take care of themselves; either that, or cut the funding and just kill 'em!

After all, when the government finally makes a decision on the death penalty, the main influence on that decision will be money.


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Posts: 110 | Posted: 03:28 AM on November 27, 2002 | IP
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Since im not gonna post again, im gonna edit this, and i hope you read it.  This is a one on one debate for the championship, and since you are a newb, i understand, but posting in here is only allowed by DSAdevil, and KC and the other guy, not you and me, because were not in this topic.  Sorry if i offended you, but even admin has agreed to this - he created this topic.  My suggestion is you edit your post to a small one, copy your info and put it under dealth penalty under society.

(Edited by Exxoss 11/28/2002 at 11:04 AM).


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Posts: 438 | Posted: 11:00 AM on November 27, 2002 | IP
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Please forgive me as I am new to youdebate.com and am not aware of all the "sub-rules" (rules that were just made up by the users.)

Please...carry on.


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Posts: 110 | Posted: 01:45 AM on November 28, 2002 | IP
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Many of u used to know me as xenjael, but since the system is rejecting my password, i have top be a guest so here it goes, the death penelty is both moraly wrong and right. Who was it that once said that two wrongs make a right? you can see that that was certainly never the case for hitler. Although no, i do not agree with the death penelty, here is the reason, in a society such as america where people grow up in fear of the government, people could never change. Things such as religion do not help the matter either. I say that we stop putting people in prison and from this day forth, this generation as we speak, should grow up without the fear of death for their wrongs, or imprisonment, i say that should they steal, they should witness their wrong, an eye for an eye could never have accomplished this, such as a commander should rule by fear alone is wrong as well, see if a soldier was bread to be a genuis, and their commander used fear to command, should the commander be immobilized, than the soldiers would be totally screwed, they could never get themselves out of their position because they have feared their commanders, such is the case with the law, i believe that should a person commit a crime such as murder, they should have to live with the guilt of what they did, the people that are insane should re-habilitated, from a certain point of view everything they did was moraly coreect, there is no use in any of these debates, because no matter what, from some point of view it is right but not wrong, these debates are senseless, this forum should not be about changing ideas or the minds of the young, but to express our thoughts, not our knowledge of matters, i once thought that i could convince the moronic, but i was wrong, they convinced me of my wrongings, i say we stop this nonsense of these debates, and just express our thoughts, acknowledge other peoples thoughts, and decide together as a community,to act together and form a opinoin, and then at another site we do the same, then again, and then again, until we as the people have decided together to act, is it not enough that wars have been fought because of even the smartest of peopl's ignorance? This should stop here and now! we have grown up being taught only wat the supposed great thinkers thought correct, there should be no more winners or losers, because no matter what they are the same, we need to work tegther to make this world a better place, we dont need wars over petty aggreements, war and [overty should end with my generation, this is why we must stop killing, for should we kill, it will set yet another example of a long ignorant rule, an eye for an eye is not right a guilt for a death is correct. Think hard about whatr i have said, and please, whatever you do, stop using these debates, this is Xenjael speaking, and i am 12 years old.
 


Posts: 0 | Posted: 7:21 PM on December 11, 2002 | IP
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by debates i meant tournaments

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Posts: 0 | Posted: 7:52 PM on December 11, 2002 | IP
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nobody has a response to what i posted?
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Posts: 0 | Posted: 07:05 AM on December 12, 2002 | IP
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well, the death penalty debate is actually in another forum. this thread is reserved for the debate tournament


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Posts: 971 | Posted: 10:36 AM on December 12, 2002 | IP
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i see, but still... i say these debates are foolish
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Posts: 0 | Posted: 4:32 PM on December 12, 2002 | IP
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you can debate in the real death penalty forum


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Posts: 971 | Posted: 4:39 PM on December 12, 2002 | IP
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tha is not my point of the long post that i made.
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Posts: 0 | Posted: 4:40 PM on December 12, 2002 | IP
    
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