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Quote from fissure226 at 02:04 AM on August 11, 2009 :
How could God create the universe?
It's quite detailed in the Bible. Gen chapter 1.

Please point us towards any passage in the bible which gives an in depth account of how your god created all life.


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Lester in logical fallacies
That’s IN MY HEAD –you know, kind of like a pneumonic helps people to remember;,

Lester in Naturalism
the reality is that medical doctors have no training in evolution

Lester in 'Scientists Assert:
Ancestors assumes evolution.
 


Posts: 320 | Posted: 4:36 PM on August 11, 2009 | IP
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Quote from JimIrvine at 11:36 AM on August 11, 2009 :
Please point us towards any passage in the bible which gives an in depth account of how your god created all life.


That's something for us to find out as we study biology.
 


Posts: 17 | Posted: 5:59 PM on August 11, 2009 | IP
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Quote from fissure226 at 5:59 PM on August 11, 2009 :
Quote from JimIrvine at 11:36 AM on August 11, 2009 :
Please point us towards any passage in the bible which gives an in depth account of how your god created all life.


That's something for us to find out as we study biology.


What do you think of abiogenesis?


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Posts: 551 | Posted: 6:20 PM on August 11, 2009 | IP
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Quote from fissure226 at 11:59 PM on August 11, 2009 :
Quote from JimIrvine at 11:36 AM on August 11, 2009 :
Please point us towards any passage in the bible which gives an in depth account of how your god created all life.


That's something for us to find out as we study biology.

So are you now saying that it is not detailed in the bible?




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Lester in logical fallacies
That’s IN MY HEAD –you know, kind of like a pneumonic helps people to remember;,

Lester in Naturalism
the reality is that medical doctors have no training in evolution

Lester in 'Scientists Assert:
Ancestors assumes evolution.
 


Posts: 320 | Posted: 01:33 AM on August 12, 2009 | IP
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like fissure226, I am not a scholar in the fields of cosmology or physics, I am just a thinker

But unlike fissure226, I plan to leave this one post. and then I am done with this thread.

I am not going to make any claims about the origin of the universe. I am simply going to give a quote and allow the rest of you to decide what to make of it:



"one could account for what was observed equally well on the theory that the universe has existed forever or the theory that it was set in motion at some finite time in such a manner as to look as though it has existed forever"
Page 9 of "A brief history of time" by Stephen Hawking


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due to a lifestyle change I am not posting as often, but I still like to read posts when I can.
my apologies to anyone you who asks me questions that don't get answered.
 


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Quote from anti-evolutionist at 10:44 PM on September 13, 2009 :

I am just a thinker


Then start demonstrating it.


I am not going to make any claims about the origin of the universe. I am simply going to give a quote and allow the rest of you to decide what to make of it:



"one could account for what was observed equally well on the theory that the universe has existed forever or the theory that it was set in motion at some finite time in such a manner as to look as though it has existed forever"
Page 9 of "A brief history of time" by Stephen Hawking


Is quote-mining a sin?  How about looking at the quote in context:

When most people believed in an essentially static and unchanging universe, the question of whether or not it had a beginning was really one of metaphysics or theology. One could account for what was observed equally well on the theory that the universe had existed forever or on the theory that it was set in motion at some finite time in such a manner as to look as though it had existed forever. But in 1929, Edwin Hubble made the landmark observation that wherever you look, distant galaxies are moving rapidly away from us. In other words, the universe is expanding. This means that at earlier times objects would have been closer together. In fact, it seemed that there was a time, about ten or twenty thousand million years ago, when they were all at exactly the same place and when, therefore, the density of the universe was infinite. This discovery finally brought the question of the beginning of the universe into the realm of science.

If you are a thinker, think for yourself and don't copy.

(Edited by Apoapsis 9/14/2009 at 12:38 AM).


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Pogge:” This is the volume of a sphere with a 62 kilometer (about 39 miles) radius, which is considerably smaller than the 2,000 mile radius of the Earth.”
Wikipedia:” For Earth, the mean radius is 6,371.009 km(≈3,958.761 mi; ≈3,440.069 nmi).”
Wisp to Lester (on Pogge): Do you admit he was wrong about the basics?
Lester: No

 


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Apoapsis - nice work.

I wonder why Creationists quote mine.  It's misrepresenting what someone else said, and dishonest.  That, or else it just shows they're just down-right lazy about researching the material.  In any case, their integrity suffers.
 


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anti-evolutionist:  Did you read the book or did you copy the quote from someone else without checking what it actually meant?


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Pogge:” This is the volume of a sphere with a 62 kilometer (about 39 miles) radius, which is considerably smaller than the 2,000 mile radius of the Earth.”
Wikipedia:” For Earth, the mean radius is 6,371.009 km(≈3,958.761 mi; ≈3,440.069 nmi).”
Wisp to Lester (on Pogge): Do you admit he was wrong about the basics?
Lester: No

 


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