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Here is a very interesting video. I would like to know what creationists make of it.  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXdQRvSdLAs
 


Posts: 49 | Posted: 08:54 AM on July 29, 2007 | IP
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bull $#%^


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Posts: 451 | Posted: 7:30 PM on August 10, 2007 | IP
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Can't refute it, can you.  Typical creationist.
 


Posts: 1664 | Posted: 10:56 PM on August 10, 2007 | IP
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show pure 100% scientific proof of it.


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Posts: 451 | Posted: 11:25 PM on August 10, 2007 | IP
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Nothing in science is ever 100% proven, that's it's greatest strength.
In this case, the evidence speaks for itself.  If you disagree, list your reasons why you disagree and show the evidence to support them.  Until you do, you have nothing and you can't refute the claim.
 


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u cant be 100% sure of the evidence.


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Posts: 451 | Posted: 11:45 AM on August 11, 2007 | IP
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"u cant be 100% sure of the evidence"

So all those thousands of people who are in prison due to DNA evidence are not guilty? If someone broke into your house with a ski mask and beat you silly but left some DNA behind, would you be in the court room saying its not him because there is no 100% evidence only 99.99%? Imagine creationists as judges.  


 


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u cant be 100% sure of the evidence

ProEvo makes a good point.

But creationest6 is 100% sure of his claims and he has NO evidence!  
 


Posts: 1664 | Posted: 5:59 PM on August 11, 2007 | IP
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yea, u cant be 100% sure of evolution


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Posts: 451 | Posted: 6:01 PM on August 11, 2007 | IP
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"yea, u cant be 100% sure of evolution"

Swap evolution with creationism and its the same. But (here is the main point) there is more evidence for evolution than there is for creationism. Why do >90% of universities and probably 100% of the worlds top 100 universities teach evolution. The bible has been around for over a millennia and yet evolution is what any half decent university teaches.
 


Posts: 49 | Posted: 6:39 PM on August 11, 2007 | IP
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(shrugs) dont no y


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Posts: 451 | Posted: 8:31 PM on August 11, 2007 | IP
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Is that not strange at all? That of the top 250, no probably top 500 universities they all teach evolution?
 


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yea, u cant be 100% sure of evolution

Yeah, you also can't be 100% sure that the earth orbits the sun, you can't be 100% sure that atoms exist, you can't be 100% sure that germs cause disease, you can't be 100% sure of chemistry, you can't be 100% sure of electricity, let's face it, you can't be 100% sure of anything in science, that's it's greatest strength.  But that doesn't stop us from successfully using chemistry, using electricity,  using the germ theory of disease, and it doesn't stop us from successfully using evolution.
 


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u will find out the true answer wen u die.


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Posts: 451 | Posted: 9:33 PM on August 11, 2007 | IP
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u will find out the true answer wen u
die.


So you admit that science doesn't have to be 100% true to be valid.  
 


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"u will find out the true answer wen u die."

Exactly, so a book cannot give you a true answer
 


Posts: 49 | Posted: 9:48 PM on August 11, 2007 | IP
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no, i am not saying science doesnt need 100% pure proof to be valid.


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Posts: 451 | Posted: 10:23 PM on August 11, 2007 | IP
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"no, i am not saying science doesnt need 100% pure proof to be valid."

Ok, take this for an example. DNA evidence is not 100%. So if i did a DNA test on you to see if your dad was your real dad i would get a result that was 99.99% but not 100%. So you see you cannot prove 100% that your dad is really your biological dad. But it does not mean that it is not true just because it is not 100%.

(Edited by ProEvo 8/11/2007 at 11:39 PM).
 


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no, i am not saying science doesnt need 100% pure proof to be valid.

So what's the problem with evolution, like everything in science it's not 100% proven but it is one of the best supported theories in science.  
 


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i still think its too far fetched. you are basicly saying that my greatx1000 grandpa was a worm.


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i still think its too far fetched. you are basicly saying that my greatx1000 grandpa was a worm.

You don't understand it, so it can't be true...
Explain why it's too far fetched.
 


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creation has been proven through quantum physics.


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Posts: 451 | Posted: 2:24 PM on August 16, 2007 | IP
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creation has been proven through quantum physics.


--Creationest6, professor of Quantum Mechanics, Oxford University, two-time winner of the Nobel Prize, once in Physics, the other in Biology

Darn. Well, if he says it, it must be true!



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you are being sarcastic arent u?


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you are being sarcastic arent u?


Not at all, good sir. You are the end-all of sources. I would never question your scientific credibility.


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creation has been proven through quantum physics.

No it hasn't.  Creation has NOT been proven by quantum physics, just the opposite.  Quantum physics supports the idea that a creator is not needed.
 


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i can show u proof.


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i can show u proof.

You can show that creation has been proven through quantum mechanics???  You don't even understand what the big bang is!  OK, show us how quantum mechanics proves creation...
 


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