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So the estimate is 200 million to 1 billion and up species ever existed.

“Extinction is part of the natural process of evolution. The one and a half million species, which are now conservatively estimated to exist, represent less than one percent of the total number of species ever present on this planet (Nei, 1975).” (1)


Where in 10,000 years could all of the long gone species have existed at the same time? The food chain would be so complex that a flood would likely kill off everything, not just leaving the 1% of us today. Not to mention, that then most of those extinct species would be virtually useless to exist, as current species of today already take their place and use, so if everything existed together at once, why have a trex or walking whale? How could a raptor exist successfully? Why even bother with small mushroom trees? (the first trees ever)

All could never had existed together, as they each required different atmospheres, different climates, different foods and resources. Some which didn't exist yest or don't exist any more.
 


Posts: 1 | Posted: 11:37 PM on September 20, 2007 | IP
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in the begining it was a perfect world with no death. there where no carnivores.


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Posts: 451 | Posted: 11:51 PM on September 20, 2007 | IP
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in the begining it was a perfect world with no death. there where no carnivores.

Provably false, since we've found dinsaur fossils with other fossils in teir stomachs.  So death has obviously existed since the begining of life.  And anyway, your statement doesn't answer Empires91 question, if there was no death, that just makes it harder for you to claim all spoecies coesisted in only 10,000 years.  And you didn't even try to answer any of the other points he brought up.  Weak, very weak...
 


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they coexisted together untill sin entered the world. and carnivores could have easily been plant eaters untill then. Their teeth are perfect for cutting through greenery.


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Posts: 451 | Posted: 09:21 AM on September 21, 2007 | IP
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they coexisted together untill sin entered the world.

The point was that there would be too many organisms alive at the same time to co-exist.  Some organisms could only live on a planet with a higher oxygen content and some could only live on a planet with a lower oxygen content.  So it's impossible that they could have co existed at the same time, your claim is disproven (youdidn't even bother to try and answer it).

and carnivores could have easily been plant eaters untill then

No they couldn't have.  Ridiculous claim.

Their teeth are perfect for cutting through greenery.

If they are perfect for cutting through the green why don't herbivores have the same kind of teeth?  Again, ridiculous claim.
 


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prove me rong.


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Posts: 451 | Posted: 2:15 PM on September 22, 2007 | IP
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prove me rong.

Already have, you just ignored my evidence.  
 


Posts: 1664 | Posted: 10:18 AM on September 24, 2007 | IP
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Demon38, I have finaly come to the conclusion that you simply do not want to properly debate, you just want to argue. I have concluded that you have wasted my time and I shall no longer post here untill someone other then you, such as ProEvo  will debate and look at all my evidence first before making conclusions. Untill then, Good bye.


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Posts: 451 | Posted: 10:19 AM on September 24, 2007 | IP
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Demon38, I have finaly come to the conclusion that you simply do not want to properly debate, you just want to argue.

You made a claim, I rebutted it.  That's how you debate.  I presented evidence to support my claim, you did not.  Looks Like I'm the only one who understands how debates work.
 


Posts: 1664 | Posted: 08:09 AM on September 25, 2007 | IP
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Demon38, I have finaly come to the conclusion that you simply do not want to properly debate, you just want to argue. I have concluded that you have wasted my time and I shall no longer post here untill someone other then you, such as ProEvo  will debate and look at all my evidence first before making conclusions. Untill then, Good bye.


The utter waste of time on this board is you. You don't even argue, much less "properly debate". At the very least, Demon looks at the "evidence" you present and shows what is wrong with it. When others present evidence to you (which happens at least ten times more than you present evidence to them), you don't even try to show what's wrong with it. You simply change the subject!

I got bored of you a long time ago. Trust me, no one's complaining that you refuse to participate anymore.







(Edited by EntwickelnCollin 9/26/2007 at 1:13 PM).


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http://ummcash.org/officers.html
http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2007/08/wow_1.php
http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2007/08/a_triumphant_beginning.php
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