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There's a new website to begin discussing the age of the earth and other creation vs. evolution topics:

www.youngearthclub.com


 


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There is no point to discussing the age of the Earth. There is no way to find out for sure, unless of course you know some one that was alive at the beginning.


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There is no point to discussing the age of the Earth. There is no way to find out for sure, unless of course you know some one that was alive at the beginning.


Flatly false. The entire scientific study of Geology is based on prior events in our earth's history.


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While you can study the past history of earth, you can not account for rock that has been recycled in the mantle. While I do believe the earth to be Billions of years old I have found no evidence for that. We have not even dug a hole more than six miles deep.


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While you can study the past history of earth, you can not account for rock that has been recycled in the mantle. While I do believe the earth to be Billions of years old I have found no evidence for that. We have not even dug a hole more than six miles deep.


What the heck does a hole six miles deep have to do with anything? We don't need to go down nearly that far to date the earth.


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Why not? If you only go down 4 miles you aren't getting the whole picture. Also different rocks form in different amounts of time, so you would have to learn how each kind of rock forms, and how weather works on each one, and finally you would have to precisely what the weather in the test aria had been all the way to the beginning.


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Why not? If you only go down 4 miles you aren't getting the whole picture. Also different rocks form in different amounts of time, so you would have to learn how each kind of rock forms, and how weather works on each one, and finally you would have to precisely what the weather in the test aria had been all the way to the beginning.


People have been studying all of that and much more for hundreds of years. That's the study of geology!




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What is your point, I know people have been studying that ever since a kid wondered what kind of rock he had found.

(Edited by SilverStar 1/9/2007 at 11:59 PM).


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What is your point, I know people have been studying that ever since a kid wondered what kind of rock he had found


The point is that there are very few questions left for geologists to ask. It's almost all been covered. Geology is possibly the least controversial of all scientific fields.


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I would agree. My only point is that we do not know the exact age of the planet, nor will it be easy to find out. However compared to finding out how old the farthest stars are this task should be easy.


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My only point is that we do not know the exact age of the planet, nor will it be easy to find out.


We sure do know the age of this planet, and you won't find any geologists who will agree figuring the earth's age out was particulary "hard".


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How old is the earth? Down to the second.


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How old is the earth? Down to the second.


We don't know the age of virtually anything "down to the second". Tell me which second you were conceived in your mother's womb.

What's the matter? Surely, if you were ever conceived, you would know exactly which second you were conceived...


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The world exists, and we do not know the exact time that it was born, so tell me what did that have any thing to do with any thing?


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The world exists, and we do not know the exact time that it was born, so tell me what did that have any thing to do with any thing?


We don't know the "exact" time that anything started existing--not you, myself, or the clothes that I'm wearing. The point is that your demand of the earth's timeline down to the first second is irrelevant.


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You proved my point. If we do not know how old any thing is, than how can we know the age of a something. I still think that the Earth is billions of years old.


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You proved my point. If we do not know how old any thing is, than how can we know the age of a something. I still think that the Earth is billions of years old.


Your logic is still off. I do not know the exact second I was born, but I do know that I am 17 years and nine months old.


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However you do not know exactly how old you are. Just approximately 17 years and nine months old.


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However you do not know exactly how old you are. Just approximately 17 years and nine months old.


You're just arguing against the accepted significant figures. The age of the Earth in seconds is insignificant to anything in geology, which compounds hundreds, thousands, and often times millions of years.


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What make a digit significant?


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What make a digit significant?


Whether or not it's precise. Didn't your chem class go over the difference between "accuracy" and "precision" in taking scientific measurements?

For instance, 2.5 + 2.5 equals 5.0, not 5;

whereas 2 x 2.5 only equals 5, not 5.0.


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Yes.


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Okay, good. What I'm trying to say is that in geology, seconds are not a significant unit of time. Years, if even that specific, are as low as the micrscope goes in geological timeframes.


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Very Interesting. If I under stand, We do agree on this topic, The world is a lot older than 6000 years, and is closer to 4 billion years old.


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