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Christelle

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Hi, I’m a Psychology student from Brussels in Belgium and I need your help for my work about the quality of education. Your opinion is very important to me. Please answer to those questions seriously and in order. Thanks in advance !


1. Are a religious believer and if so, what is your religion?
2. Did your religious belief affect your education?
3. How do you integrate (mix?) your beliefs into the theory of evolution?
4. In some states of USA, books about evolutionist biology bear a warning to the reader  
stating “beware, this is a theory, a belief unproved…”. What do you think of this practice?
5. According to you, could such a warning be put upon religious books?
6. Under the third republic, the French parliament decided that, from now on, the education should be non-religious. What is your opinion?
7. What do you think of the position reserved to Man in Darwin’s theory?
8. Should the teaching of biology be only based upon the theory of evolution conceived by Darwin?
9. Do you think history, geography, philosophy and biology should be interpreted a different point of view than Darwin's?
10. Could human sciences such as reading history, geography, philosophy and biology be interpreted from a view different from Darwin’s one?
11. What is, in your opinion, the importance that should be granted to religion in the educational programs?
12. What is your opinion on the position of Harun HaHya, practicing Muslim and self proclaimed scientist saying that evolutionism is propaganda supporting materialism?
13. Can we compare evolution and religion?
14. Must we choose between evolutionism and religion or else try to combine them for educational purposes?

 


Posts: 1 | Posted: 2:45 PM on April 5, 2008 | IP
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1. Yes, I am a Christian - General Conference Baptist
2. I don't think that it affected my education that much. I tended to just disregard what my science teachers said and continued to believe what I wanted to. I accepted what they were saying as a theory and tried to accept that I had to learn it because of separation of church/state.
3. I do not integrate my beliefs into the theory of evolution because I do not believe in evolution at all. I believe in the literal translation of Genesis (6 days of creation).
4. I haven't heard of that, but I think it's kind of funny that would admit it is unproved since all I hear is that is has all kinds of "proof" backing it. I think it may be a little extreme though. There are people who believe it to be quite true, and I would be very offended if someone stuck stickers like that on the Bible.
5. Well, I guess I already answered this question. I don't believe that Christianity is only a theory. I believe it is the absolute truth.
6. It has always been non-religious in America, and I think it is a good idea to keep it that way. If we tried integrating religion into schools, there would just be a huge uproar. If people want a religious education, they can go to a private school.
7. I do not believe in evolution at all, so I don't believe in Darwin's theory either that we are descendants of apes.
8. If there are other theories, they should be taught too. Many of the aspects of Darwin's theory have been disproven anyway.
9. same as above
10. same as above
11. I think all religious should be presented if they are going to be taught at all. Religion plays an integral part in many people's lives, so to just disregard it completely wouldn't make much sense.
12. I've never really heard of this, and I don't have any information on it, so I don't think I am informed enough to say.
13. Evolution and Christianity (creation) cannot co-exist. I am not sure about other religions.
14. You have to choose or teach them separately.


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Posts: 58 | Posted: 5:26 PM on April 5, 2008 | IP
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1. No, I'm not religious.
2. No, it didn't affect me  There was nothing to interfere with my education.
3. There was no interference with my education and lack of religious beliefs.
4. I don't think the stickers that say you should be critical of evolution go far enough.  The sticker should say that people should critically analyze all scientific concepts.  Science is about reasoned critical analysis.  The other stickers that say that it is "just a theory" or that there is no evidence supporting it are dishonest and misinterpret basic scientific definitions.
5. Only if they are trying to pass it off as factual.
6. Yes, religion should be kept out of public school.
7. I see no problem with it.  It was a creationist that first defined man as a primate before Darwin was even around, and it has been proven by further evidence since he published his theory.  Being an animal doesn't make us any less than we already are.
8. Modern biology is founded on evolutionary theory.  Every modern advancement in biology is based upon it and without it we probably won't get any more in the future such as a cure for AIDS.
9. Biology can't be interpreted any other way (see above for more).  Philosophy should teach a variety of ideas.  The only parts of evolution that should be taught in geography or history are the facts that have been found from research done on evolution.
10.  It is possible that another theory could be  used to interpret some of the facts, but evolution is the only theory we have at the moment that explains all of the facts.
11. Religion shouldn't be taught in school.  The only exceptions would be in a philosophy class or in a world religion class, but that would just be to teach the varying viewpoints to promote understanding of other people.
12. He is a religious literalist that is motivated by his religious beliefs and not by the facts or the science.
13. Unless you are a religious literalist there is no conflict between evolution, or science as a whole, and religion.  Just look at theistic evolution.
14.  You can't teach religion in schools without teaching all of them, which would use up so much time that people wouldn't learn everything they need about each subject, so if it would be taught at all it should only be taught in philosophy or world religions classes.
 


Posts: 41 | Posted: 10:43 PM on July 14, 2008 | IP
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Hello, here are my answers, I hope they help, I just found the thread:

1. Are a religious believer and if so, what is your religion?
>>>> I do not believe in religion, nor do I think it helps us find ourselves or morality in and of itself. I do believe however that humans still require spirituality and this part of the brain would morph into whatever results from it's adaptation to practical spirituality (spirituality out of inner-yearning given a belief in empiricism) rather than faith spirituality (spirituality out of upbringing or inner-yearning given a belief in a metaphysical entity which imposes it's wisdom or commands upon us).

2. Did your religious belief affect your education?
>>>> It made it easier to compute my studies as paradigms created by people for people. It made my Existentialism, Moral Philosophy and FreeWill classes extremely invigorating as I often fought off religious views in arguements, finding concreteness and satisfaction.

3. How do you integrate (mix?) your beliefs into the theory of evolution?
>>>> They are in cahoots with the theory

4. In some states of USA, books about evolutionist biology bear a warning to the reader  
stating “beware, this is a theory, a belief unproved…”. What do you think of this practice?
>>>> This is an abhorent practice. If they want to place warnings in school books then they ought to put the same warning in all new Bibles.

5. According to you, could such a warning be put upon religious books?
>>>> Absolutely, if they removed the religious leaders from lobby groups and stopped printing Federalities with mention to God.

6. Under the third republic, the French parliament decided that, from now on, the education should be non-religious. What is your opinion?
>>>> Good. Leave education for school and religion for church and private schools. If the community wants a "Bible" class then that's alright but then all science and religious classes would have to be optional...

7. What do you think of the position reserved to Man in Darwin’s theory?
>>>> Pardon my ignorance. Could you perhaps expand on what you mean?
If you mean morality... no I do not necessarily believe that all animals besides man are ammoral. But that leaves a great deal of definition to be made... so perhaps I would say that certain highly intelligent animals do practice emotive action.

8. Should the teaching of biology be only based upon the theory of evolution conceived by Darwin?
>>>> The teaching of biology should be taught using the best and most up to date empirical data and experimentation possible leaving theories to be theories and making sure a student knows the definition of "Theory". AKA, there is a problem with the evangelicals looking to pursuade students toward the belief that when something is a theory it is no more than hearsay.

9. Do you think history, geography, philosophy and biology should be interpreted a different point of view than Darwin's?
>>>> Again, teach using the best mixture of evidence and theory possible. Darwin isn't the God of Science, he was a great scientist.

10. Could human sciences such as reading history, geography, philosophy and biology be interpreted from a view different from Darwin’s one?
>>>> And again, of course, if the facts substantiate a chance in teaching!

11. What is, in your opinion, the importance that should be granted to religion in the educational programs?
>>>> In Canada, religion is not allowed near public schools with the allowance of peer groups and clubs of course. Religions are in disagreement and so are some scientific theories. The difference is that religion does not evolve in the same way the methods and evidence of science. It is therefore ill-advised to place religion in school.

12. What is your opinion on the position of Harun HaHya, practicing Muslim and self proclaimed scientist saying that evolutionism is propaganda supporting materialism?
>>>> Evolutionism does not "support" anything in any sort of socio-politcal debate. It is, in research, a theory to be tested and used to further the understanding of our origins. Harun Yahya is clearly making an inflammatory claim here since materialism sets science and religion apart quite fundamentally. You are clearly not a scientist if you believe that you can prove that something exists without finding evidence for it.

13. Can we compare evolution and religion?
>>>> Of course! Google it. I'm sure you'll find a table out there.

14. Must we choose between evolutionism and religion or else try to combine them for educational purposes?
>>>> You must choose between teaching children to question what is around them and simply telling them about it, YES. Unfortunately, teachers are not always smart enough to teach science as science rather than flying through material without bringing up questionnable theories in class. However, this is often left to university where many people do not have a chance to go.


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