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Turtle shell that is.

New fossil find is a turtle ancestor, teeth and no top shell.
Earliest turtle found

(Edited by Apoapsis 9/1/2010 at 9:12 PM).


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Pogge:” This is the volume of a sphere with a 62 kilometer (about 39 miles) radius, which is considerably smaller than the 2,000 mile radius of the Earth.”
Wikipedia:” For Earth, the mean radius is 6,371.009 km(≈3,958.761 mi; ≈3,440.069 nmi).”
Wisp to Lester (on Pogge): Do you admit he was wrong about the basics?
Lester: No

 


Posts: 1747 | Posted: 11:48 PM on November 26, 2008 | IP
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How very interesting! Thanks!

Here's the article from where you got the pic. http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2008/11/odontochelys_a_transitional_tu.php



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Ha Ha. (...) I've told you people endlessly about my evidence but you don't want to show me yours - you just assert.
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Would we see a mammal by the water's edge "suddenly" start breathing underwater(w/camera effect of course)?
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Another fine example of a 'transitional' fossil.  Another piece of evidence to throw on the mighty mountain of proof that evolution is real.
 


Posts: 1460 | Posted: 6:14 PM on December 3, 2008 | IP
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Yeah... It's not a fair fight.

They make a great effort to try to find evidence that supports their beliefs. And we just lift a rock and there must be evidence under it. Literally.

In this forum i've found some amazing (and a little disturbing) illustrations of the forefathers of the whales, like this one:
Click here for a bigger image.



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Scientists assert (by Lester):

Ha Ha. (...) I've told you people endlessly about my evidence but you don't want to show me yours - you just assert.
porkchop
Would we see a mammal by the water's edge "suddenly" start breathing underwater(w/camera effect of course)?
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Speaking of creatures going from land to sea, particularly mammals, I would think that the sea otter is an excellent example of a transitional species doing that right now.  I love sea otters.  I don't know anything about their evolution, but it would be interesting to find out.
 


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Here's an illustration of the primitive turtle.


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Ha Ha. (...) I've told you people endlessly about my evidence but you don't want to show me yours - you just assert.
porkchop
Would we see a mammal by the water's edge "suddenly" start breathing underwater(w/camera effect of course)?
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yawn


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Scientists assert (by Lester):

Ha Ha. (...) I've told you people endlessly about my evidence but you don't want to show me yours - you just assert.
porkchop
Would we see a mammal by the water's edge "suddenly" start breathing underwater(w/camera effect of course)?
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Quote from orion at 6:14 PM on December 3, 2008 :
Another fine example of a 'transitional' fossil.  Another piece of evidence to throw on the mighty mountain of proof that evolution is real.

No, no, no - if it only has half a shell, then it OBVIOUSLY is not a turtle (i.e., not of the turtle-kind).  That is just one of Yahweh's creations that he for some reason decided should die in the flood, probably because they drank too much and voted democrat.




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How old is this new discovered fossil?


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Quote from porkchop at 9:03 PM on September 1, 2010 :
How old is this new discovered fossil?



Read the link.

Quote from Apoapsis at 11:48 PM on November 26, 2008 :
Turtle shell that is.

New fossil find is a turtle ancestor, teeth and no top shell.
Earliest turtle found





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Pogge:” This is the volume of a sphere with a 62 kilometer (about 39 miles) radius, which is considerably smaller than the 2,000 mile radius of the Earth.”
Wikipedia:” For Earth, the mean radius is 6,371.009 km(≈3,958.761 mi; ≈3,440.069 nmi).”
Wisp to Lester (on Pogge): Do you admit he was wrong about the basics?
Lester: No

 


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