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COMPLETELY UNEXPECTED!!!  A real monkey wrench is about to hit both sides in the ID vs Evolution debate and religion may be in for difficult times? For there is a wholly new interpretation of the teachings of Christ, contained within the first ever religious claim and proof that meets all the criteria of the most rigorous, testable scientific method, published and circulating on the web. It is titled The Final Freedoms.

It is described as a single Law and moral principle, offering its own proof, one in which the reality of God confirms and responds to an act of perfect faith, by a direct intervention into the natural world,  providing a correction to human nature including a change in natural law [biology], consciousness and human ethical perception [proof of the soul], providing new, primary insight and understanding of the human condition!

So while proponents of ID may have got the God part right, but if this development demonstrates itself to be what it claims, all religious teaching, tradition and understanding of ID are wholly in error, and the proponents of evolution who have rightly used that conception to beat down the credibility of religious tradition, but who have also used it to deny the potential for God, are in for a very rude shock.

However improbable, the impossible may have become possible. No joke, no hoax and not spam.

Free pdf downloads of the manuscript are available at www.energon.uklinux.net and http://thefinalfreedoms.bulldoghome.com



 


Posts: 2 | Posted: 5:52 PM on January 5, 2006 | IP
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This is a joke...Right?
 


Posts: 1664 | Posted: 6:02 PM on January 5, 2006 | IP
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wow. I'm completely convinced. That changed my whole perspective. I am going to live my life from this day forth by the final freedoms.
Thank you.

(Edited by pocket 1/5/2006 at 9:42 PM).
 


Posts: 15 | Posted: 9:41 PM on January 5, 2006 | IP
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Your description of this so called "Law" isn't a description. Nice try though.
 


Posts: 39 | Posted: 11:29 PM on January 5, 2006 | IP
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So many of these fanatic types pretend to have this great insight. They sight obscure examples and make long, incoherent responses to disbelief. They use big words and rationalize by rebutting that you just dont understand. This cracks me up.
 


Posts: 15 | Posted: 11:02 AM on January 6, 2006 | IP
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1) Anytime a website I've never heard of asks me to download something, I tend to say no.  If they really wanted the information out there they'd just post it.  Hope no one got any viruses.

2) When both the creationists and evolutionists laugh at you, it's a good sign you're loony.

There, both my cents.  :P


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Posts: 1287 | Posted: 2:01 PM on January 6, 2006 | IP
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Reminds me of that bozo that came here a couple months back and showed us his website in which he denied there was an AIDS virus.


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Posts: 729 | Posted: 4:52 PM on January 6, 2006 | IP
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The following article is use with kingd permission of the author:


Examine the history of any culture from anywhere in the world and you will almost certainly find a self proclaimed priesthood, existing hand in hand with ruling elites and displaying all the pretensions of their political masters; expecting deference, power and ‘tribute’ for the ‘mystery’ they claim to understand on ‘our’ behalf.

Well that great wheel of history and final of all judges, having already consigned numerous examples of religion to its own dustbin of oblivion, may be turning once again to deliver its verdict on the monotheistic claims which exist today, and even human nature itself!

However tempting it may be to presume the contentious debate between proponents of Evolution and Intelligent Design will be the battle ground for this final reckoning, think again; even if this conflict between very different, competing conceptions of understanding and claims to knowledge are playing an unwitting role in defining the rules of engagement. For they clarify the central  threat all monotheism confronts to its credibility.

That is, after almost five thousand years of theological tradition and development, and contrary to their own scriptural record, the world is no closer to any insight, understanding, or path for faith, able to confirm either the possibility of God or the claims tradition makes to speak for the name of a potential reality, yet to demonstrate its own existence unequivocally.

Even the word ‘reality’ suggests something solid. And whatever ones religious convictions might be, progress continues however haphazardly, because of criteria applied to that concept which has been the sole gift of secular scientific method. What makes this conception of understanding such a great leap ahead of any previous philosophical or religious truth claim is simple. Science demands that something works. Every true reality can be tested. And the intrinsic accountability of science, recently observed by the disgrace and fall of a Korean scientist for falsifying data and results, while not perfect, is still the best mankind has evolved for discerning the difference between reality and self deception.

Religion on the other hand has no such checks to its fervent imagination except scriptures; which have themselves been the cause for more dispute, conflict and division than history can count. The contradiction of three competing claims to the same God plagues monotheism. The regular abuses and corruption of both priest and institution continues to undermine whatever credibility is left.

So intellectually vacuous have religious ideas become in some quarters of the modern world, many thinkers, intellectuals and scientists, particularly those evolutionary biologists, with what might easily seem a more plausible, alternative theory of the universe, have concluded that theistic religion, if not God, is just a human self deception and historical illusion woven into culture.

With so many unresolved conundrums facing mankind and the earth itself, so briefly into a new millennium,  any new hope for the new century has already given way to foreboding, of new conflicts, fears for the environment, of natural disasters and pandemic, following closely on the heels of previous world wars, sectarian conflict, ethnic cleansing and holocaust. With uncountable millions dead, it’s hard to avoid the  impression, even if there is a God, he doesn’t give much of a damn for humankind, in spite of anyones particular religious bent?

If religious claims were a harmless phenomenon there would be little concern. But religious institutions demand loyalties, command and consume vast resources and are powerful players in every political sphere they inhabit. Their agenda is often in conflict with the ideals of freedom, democracy and conscience. For that very reason did the American founding fathers, all too aware of the destructive European experience with religion, try to limit its impact within a new country by the first amendment to the US constitution?

Yet completely unforeseen or expected in anyones lifetime, this status quo of embedded historical divisiveness, political interference and the greatest unresolved questions of human existence may finally have been disentangled. If material circulating the web proves itself to be authentic, and there appears to be both the means and a concerted effort to confirm it, the implications defy the imagination!

For spreading from a number of web sites, being distributed free as a pdf download, made up of twenty nine chapters and three hundred and seventy pages is a intellectual, religious and political bombshell: the first wholly new and complete interpretation of the teachings of Jesus the Christ and The Law for two thousand years. It’s entitled: The Final Freedoms. And this new teaching or revelation has nothing whatsoever to do with any religious tradition known to history. It is unique in every respect.

This new interpretation, also called the Gospel of the Resurrection, defines the moral foundation of all human conduct and finds expression within a new ethical conception of human spiritual union, the marriage between one man and one woman. It resolves the most intractable questions and issues of human sexuality  and offers possibilities for peace, health and cultural development only dreamt of by any political process.

This new teaching is pure ethics. It requires no institutional framework or hierarchy, no churches, no priestcraft, no scholastic theological rational, costs nothing and requires only the convictions of faith and the necessary measure of self discipline to accomplish a new moral imperative.

Using a synthesis of several thousand scriptural elements from the Old and New Testaments, the Apocrypha , The Dead Sea Scrolls and The Nag Hammadi Library, it describes and teaches a single Law, a single moral principle and offers its own proof; one in which the reality of God confirms and responds to an act of perfect faith, by a direct, individual intervention into the natural world; providing a correction to human nature, a change in natural law, to consciousness and human ethical perception; new, primary insight and understanding of the human condition.

As the first ever religious teaching able to demonstrate its own efficacy, the first ever religious claim to understanding and knowledge that meets all the criteria of the most rigorous, testable scientific method, this teaching represents something new to history. That is to say the first living and testable religious truth and proof of the living God has been published on the Net!

The beginnings of a moral and intellectual revolution are unfolding on the web and this expression of insight called The Final Freedoms, self-evidently reflecting a profound  understanding beyond human intellectual origin, is more than able to put the entire theological history and claims of monotheistic tradition to shame, and probably redefine the very future of our planet.

So if the road to a greater future for our species is to be found over the dead carcass of a theological counterfeit we have mistakenly called religion, so be it. And let the gnashing of teeth be heard all around!  

The manuscript: The Final Freedoms is a free pdf download from a number of sites including the two listed below.

Links:http://www.energon.uklinux.net
http://thefinalfreedoms.bulldoghome.com

Copyright M.S. Treherne 2006
 


Posts: 2 | Posted: 5:27 PM on January 22, 2006 | IP
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If religious claims were a harmless phenomenon there would be little concern. But religious institutions demand loyalties, command and consume vast resources and are powerful players in every political sphere they inhabit. Their agenda is often in conflict with the ideals of freedom, democracy and conscience. For that very reason did the American founding fathers, all too aware of the destructive European experience with religion, try to limit its impact within a new country by the first amendment to the US constitution?


Actually, only denominations demand tribute.  Christian churches have no greater authority (other than God) than the local eldership (and some smaller congregations don't even have that).  The only tribute requested is enough money to pay for the place of worship (often rented or a very small out-of-the-way spot which was built very cheaply), its utilities, pay for a preacher (if they even have a full-time preacher) and any works agreed upon by the congregation.  Don't mistake denominationalism (sp?) with religion.

Most local congregations have absolutely no political power and do not try to exude any influence over politicians.

As for your last point, the constitution in no way tries to limit religion as a whole.  In fact, the freedom of religion is SUPPOSED to be guaranteed.  The only thing it limits is the power of any one denomination (i.e. the Church of England, etc.) by not allowing for the government to ESTABLISH any particular religion.  I highly doubt that the majority of the "founding fathers" would be pleased to know that something like the Pledge of Allegiance is prohibited from being recited because it happens to mention the word God in it.  Remember, freedom of religion, not freedom from religion.

P.S.  Ever notice that people who categorically deny reciting the Pledge, or singing the Anthem because of the word God will still accept money with the word God on it?  Scribes, Pharisees, hypocrites.


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Posts: 1287 | Posted: 11:45 AM on January 23, 2006 | IP
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P.S.  Ever notice that people who categorically deny reciting the Pledge, or singing the Anthem because of the word God will still accept money with the word God on it?  Scribes, Pharisees, hypocrites.


Well, what do you honestly suggest? I suppose if someone really wanted to protest the word "God" on dollar bills, they could not pay for anything in cash, but there are occassions in which it's simply needed if you live in areas that don't accept checks or allow for credit card technology. A much easier way to object to the issue is not to stand for the pledge.

And Goliah, just... go away and stop spamming.


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http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2007/08/a_triumphant_beginning.php
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Posts: 729 | Posted: 7:03 PM on January 23, 2006 | IP
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“This new interpretation”
Interpretation of what? And who is the author/interpreter?

After reading this post carefully, I am convinced that this concept makes no sense and will not contribute in any way to good conversation. The idea of ethics is older than wine, and I hardly think that polluting it with some vague religion is worth a google search. Thanks for reaffirming my previous post, though. If you would like to try and convince a secular disbeliever such as myself, why don’t you try citing original and specific good ideas instead of boring us with long and content free spam.

http://redwing.hutman.net/%7Emreed/warriorshtm/deacon.htm

 


Posts: 15 | Posted: 10:01 PM on February 9, 2006 | IP
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If the "final freedoms" were truly free, then this new philosophy or religion could be coherently summarized in a few paragraphs.  It's trash.


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