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New International Version (©1984)
And these signs will accompany those who believe: In my name they will drive out demons; they will speak in new tongues;

New American Standard Bible (©1995)
"These signs will accompany those who have believed: in My name they will cast out demons, they will speak with new tongues;

International Standard Version (©2008)
"These are the signs that will accompany those who believe: In my name they will drive out demons; they will speak in new tongues;

GOD'S WORD® Translation (©1995)
"These are the miraculous signs that will accompany believers: They will use the power and authority of my name to force demons out of people. They will speak new languages.

King James Bible
And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;

American King James Version
And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;

American Standard Version
And these signs shall accompany them that believe: in my name shall they cast out demons; they shall speak with new tongues;

Bible in Basic English
And these signs will be with those who have faith: in my name they will send out evil spirits; and they will make use of new languages;

Douay-Rheims Bible
And these signs shall follow them that believe: In my name they shall cast out devils: they shall speak with new tongues.

Darby Bible Translation
And these signs shall follow those that have believed: in my name they shall cast out demons; they shall speak with new tongues;

English Revised Version
And these signs shall follow them that believe: in my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;

Webster's Bible Translation
And these signs shall follow them that believe: In my name shall they cast out demons; they shall speak in new languages;

Weymouth New Testament
And signs shall attend those who believe, even such as these. By making use of my name they shall expel demons. They shall speak new languages.

World English Bible
These signs will accompany those who believe: in my name they will cast out demons; they will speak with new languages;

Young's Literal Translation
'And signs shall accompany those believing these things; in my name demons they shall cast out; with new tongues they shall speak;


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Quote from Lester10 at 2:51 PM on September 21, 2010 in the thread
Scientists assert (by Lester):

Ha Ha. (...) I've told you people endlessly about my evidence but you don't want to show me yours - you just assert.
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Posts: 3037 | Posted: 12:02 PM on November 26, 2009 | IP
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Most creationists have difficulties speaking ONE language.

How many demons/devils/evil-spirits/whatever have you cast out?

On the other hand, many of us (evolutionist) do speak languages, and have cast out many a creationist.

Perhaps we're the real deal, and Jesus will be with us on the final day, and will tell the creationists "I don't know you."



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Quote from Lester10 at 2:51 PM on September 21, 2010 in the thread
Scientists assert (by Lester):

Ha Ha. (...) I've told you people endlessly about my evidence but you don't want to show me yours - you just assert.
porkchop
Would we see a mammal by the water's edge "suddenly" start breathing underwater(w/camera effect of course)?
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Posts: 3037 | Posted: 12:08 PM on November 26, 2009 | IP
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Interesting point. The problem with speaking "in tongues", is that you can train yourself to do it on command, no deity necessary.  

As far as casting out demons and or devils, the Catholic church performs at least one exorcist a day! Maybe Catholicism had it right all along.


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Haha! I almost forgot that you consider yourself to be a Christian too. xD

Indeed, no deity necessary to speak in tongues. But that's not a problem.
Logical fallacy > Non seqvitvr > Denying the antecedent

This is the structure of this fallacy:
  1. If A is true, then B is true.
  2. A is false.
  3. Therefore, B is false.

Example:
  1. If Queen Elizabeth is an American citizen, then she is a human being.
  2. Queen Elizabeth is not an American citizen.
  3. Therefore, Queen Elizabeth is not a human being.

When trying to defend Christianity you're bound to force (even hurt) your intellect.



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Quote from Lester10 at 2:51 PM on September 21, 2010 in the thread
Scientists assert (by Lester):

Ha Ha. (...) I've told you people endlessly about my evidence but you don't want to show me yours - you just assert.
porkchop
Would we see a mammal by the water's edge "suddenly" start breathing underwater(w/camera effect of course)?
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I was reading a Watchtower.

It said that Yahweh didn't change, and never changed his mind. That the circumstances are different, and that's why he expects different things and gives different commands.

And he took the Christian superpowers (speaking in tongues, curing the sick) away, because now people don't need faith so much.

They used to need it, when they knew very little about Jesus and the message. Now it's not necessary.

Well, why didn't they say so? Nowhere in the New Testament does it say that it was a one time offer! There was no expiration date for the miracles!

I think it's a scam. I think your ministers are keeping the superpowers for themselves.

Christians, don't be fooled! Look at your ministers in the eye, and with a firm voice say "I want my superpowers."



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Quote from Lester10 at 2:51 PM on September 21, 2010 in the thread
Scientists assert (by Lester):

Ha Ha. (...) I've told you people endlessly about my evidence but you don't want to show me yours - you just assert.
porkchop
Would we see a mammal by the water's edge "suddenly" start breathing underwater(w/camera effect of course)?
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