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i am agnostic not atheist, but its close enough for close minded people to understand:

bottom line is, the bible was written by MAN, not god

i think the bible is a great book, its teachings are great but so are just about EVERY other religion

back in the ice age, the humans of this earth had no doubt that this earth was controlled by the rain god, the sun god, the moon god, etc.

back in ancient greece, we had no doubt that the gods were zeus, aphridite, ares, etc.

now, we have no doubt that we are ruled by a being called "God".

we as humans on this earth are stupid, stupid in the way that we know not of what is going on aorund us. religion was made so that we humans would not feel frightened and alone in this universe. people cannot grasp that after we die, we rot in the ground. we cannot even imagine non existence.

i used to be a christian, but when i was 12, i realized i was only talking to myself and began to research. i found out many things and if you want to contine this discussion, my aim account is: gilligan8503

do not let media or anyone else tell you what to believe. QUESTION YOURSELF AND YOUR RELIGION. do not be afraid. suck it up and live your life as best you can.


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Posts: 1 | Posted: 5:19 PM on February 15, 2003 | IP
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 Well you know what I find to be very interesting, the grace of God through the Holy Ghost. Completly pure, blameless, yet He chose to die for the sinners. He, the same Jesus that you crucified, died so that you may live. For He is coming back soon, and the hour is under way. For it is written:
        "In that day, I will bring my people back from all the nations of the earth, and they shall dwell in the land that I have promised them."
      For has the God of all not watched over His Word to perform it? Is not Israel a nation for the first time in over 1900 years? The Lord strong and mighty shall declare His presence through the manifestation of the Holy Ghost. For in that day He will shake the earth once more. Therefore, if you believe my report:
       Repent, acknowledge your need for the Father in heaven.
       Believe that the Lord can save you, and that He has given you the Scriptures to bear witness of His character.
       Be baptized in water, for this is how we bury your old nature that you may be new in the Lord. It is not an option but a command.
       Baptism in the Holy Ghost, If you believe and are willing to die to yourself, for life is not gauranteed another day, and judgement is for sure, you will recieve the Baptism in the Holy Spirit. This is essential, you no longer live but the Spirit of Christ in you.
 


Posts: 0 | Posted: 8:29 PM on February 19, 2003 | IP
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So you are saying that life is pointless so just wonder about aimlessly for nothing matters. Wow, life must be fun for you(assuming you still have a life). Why would you ever want to believe such nonesence when in a day like today we have the answers. The Bible! It is true and proven to be true but as it says "the scoffers will be willingly ignorant" you could see the truth if you just opened your eyes. But you continue to live a pointless life with zero meaning.

Just search for meaning and you will see, the Bible holds all the answers!
 


Posts: 0 | Posted: 9:31 PM on November 15, 2003 | IP
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Galligan, i want to simply ask you some questions... If  Christianity and God are man-made, why would man-kind create a God to scare themselves?

man kind are just selfish.so instead of making a God and tries to do his will all the times, why don' we just create a God that only serve ourselves?
i guess you should think about these things...
 


Posts: 0 | Posted: 03:50 AM on January 19, 2004 | IP
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Galligan, i want to simply ask you some questions... If  Christianity and God are man-made, why would man-kind create a God to scare themselves?

man kind are just selfish.so instead of making a God and tries to do his will all the times, why don' we just create a God that only serve ourselves?
i guess you should think about these things...[b]

Omg you just proved God exists!
 


Posts: 66 | Posted: 8:23 PM on January 19, 2004 | IP
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I think you will find that religion was invented as a form of social control. And it is still working pritty damb well. The fact is that no its not nice and I wish that what I am about to say isn't true, I have left my heart open for god I have asked him to come to me, but he hasn't, so he therefore dosen't care for me or...

Life is a pointless meaning less existence that none of us want to end. Religion gives people at the bottom level of society some hope of a better life after they die, thus the powerful create a religion that gives control.

I don't like this anymore than you do, but if there was a god he would have come to me by now. I thought I knew him as a child but I was ignourant and followed the beliefs of society, then in my early teens I questioned my faith. I then lost all faith and ever since I have been trying to find it again without luck, to me that proves that an all loving god doesn't exist.


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Posts: 301 | Posted: 9:51 PM on January 14, 2005 | IP
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Quote from Guest at 9:31 PM on November 15, 2003 :
So you are saying that life is pointless so just wonder about aimlessly for nothing matters. Wow, life must be fun for you(assuming you still have a life).


Of course things matter. An atheist or agnostic can care about friends, family, work, being a good person, and so on. Your assumption otherwise is just religious egocentrism.

Why would you ever want to believe such nonesence when in a day like today we have the answers. The Bible! It is true and proven to be true but as it says "the scoffers will be willingly ignorant" you could see the truth if you just opened your eyes.


Show me some evidence for the truth of the Bible. Or do you want to just say that there is proof and leave it at that?

But you continue to live a pointless life with zero meaning.


Life sure feels meaningful to me, and I'm an atheist. I'd say that disproves your ridiculous belief that people who don't believe in your god lead meaningless lives.

Just search for meaning and you will see, the Bible holds all the answers!


I was a Christian once. The Bible didn't have the answers then, and I doubt that it will have them now.

And really, I'm not sure what the question is that the Bible is supposed to answer. I'm happy as I am now. Why would I need the Bible?
 


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Quote from gilligan8503 at 5:19 PM on February 15, 2003 :
i think the bible is a great book, its teachings are great but so are just about EVERY other religion


Are you sure about that?

Judges 5:30:
They must be dividing the spoils they took: there must be a damsel or two for each man, Spoils of dyed cloth as Sisera's spoil, an ornate shawl or two for me in the spoil.


Deuteronomy 22:28-29:
If a man is caught in the act of raping a young woman who is not engaged, he must pay fifty pieces of silver to her father.  Then he must marry the young woman because he violated her, and he will never be allowed to divorce her.


That's right, a rape victim has to marry the rapist. Still think the Bible is a good book? You can get better moral teachings from almost any other book this side of Mein Kampf.
 


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