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Should schools Drug Test ?

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Posts: 31 | Posted: 7:14 PM on April 30, 2002 | IP
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I would support random drug testing for student athletes, so that if they are cheating via steroids, they can then be barred from the sport. The legitimacy of competition could potentially be in question, and joining the football team or the water polo team are elective activities.

Testing randomly from the general population, and busting them for the use of any drugs is a gross invasion of privacy, and betrays the basic judicail notion that people are innoncent until proven guilty.


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For athletes, yes.  They need to be at optimum effeciancy if they wanna play ball.  For students, know.  What if a parent smoked, and the student was framed?  Or what if a friend or even stranger smoked around students?  It is a breach of personal self.  Think of how kids would feel if their friends didnt talk to them because they were suposedly smoking.  There's a great boost to the self esteem.  My girlfriend dumped me because she thought i did cigarettes.  I onnly do marijuana(kidding).  So i was depressed for a while...  Kids need to be left alone sometimes.  The parents should be able to find out if their kid smokes or not, otherwise, their irresponsible.


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Although, I don't think drugs are bad, and therefore, I don't think there should bepunishment for doing them, but, since they are ilegal in America, it makes sense to randomly drug test people.
 


Posts: 0 | Posted: 10:36 AM on September 27, 2002 | IP
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Drug testing in the random school poulation? NO! If they don't have reasonable idea that that person is doing drugs (unless you're talking about sports. I agree w/ drug testing for that), why should you invade their privacy and test them?
 


Posts: 30 | Posted: 5:44 PM on September 27, 2002 | IP
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exactly.  Kids are a lot more likely to be sad if they get drug testing.  Why shoulld they tell a kid to pee in a jar just so they can be 100% sure hes not smoking?


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Posts: 438 | Posted: 09:07 AM on October 11, 2002 | IP
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at my school they do random backpack checks, where you line your backpacks up in the back of the room when you walk into class and the principle and a bunch of cops go through them.  They find a lot of drugs and weapons, and help the kids who they belong to, so I dont think it is bad.  You have nothing to be afraid of unless you have something to hide.


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Posts: 293 | Posted: 7:55 PM on October 13, 2002 | IP
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not to mention a bunch of other kid's wallets and id cards, who are glad to get them back (they steal all your stuff if you ever fall asleep in class at my school :p)


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Posts: 293 | Posted: 7:57 PM on October 13, 2002 | IP
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people shouldnt fear any drug tests unless they have something to hide
 


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america has a horrible education system drug testing would cost money that they could use for educational purposes.


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Posts: 0 | Posted: 8:11 PM on November 18, 2002 | IP
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Posts: 0 | Posted: 8:14 PM on November 18, 2002 | IP
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Don't you believe the only reason parents are against their children being drug tested is because then they would have to face the issue of their child using drugs?  That would make their job as a parent a lot harder. Dealing and facing the issues.  Parents should relish the idea of knowing for sure that their child is drug free.  Of course no child has ever lied to their parent!
 


Posts: 0 | Posted: 10:02 AM on November 19, 2002 | IP
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Quote from Guest at 10:02 AM on November 19, 2002 :
Don't you believe the only reason parents are against their children being drug tested is because then they would have to face the issue of their child using drugs?


And is not wanting to have to face that issue that wrong?

Many parents realize that their children will at some point try drugs. When a particular occasion of drug usage is brought to their attention, and their child knows the parents know they used drugs, the parents has to choose:
1. Punish the child: They may feel opposed to this because they think teenagers should experiment a little bit and don't really think trying drugs is that bad.
2. Not punish the child, which may send an overly accepting message about how the parents feel about drugs, causing the child to do drugs more then just experiemntation.

By allowing the kids to not be caught, they do the drugs they would do anyway and can experiment without getting in trouble for trying it and without being encouraged to do any more, while the parents are left out of an awkward situation.

Of course, some parents never want their children anywhere near drugs, and want to severly punish their child if they do.
 


Posts: 122 | Posted: 10:36 PM on November 20, 2002 | IP
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why should it be the schools buisness who does drugs and who doesnt?We go to school to learn its not their buisness whos doing drugs as long as they are not brought into the school. yes they should make sure nobody has them in the building but thats all.

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Posts: 85 | Posted: 1:07 PM on January 5, 2003 | IP
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Drugs distort reality and can be the cause of unintended or intended school violence, drugs cause poor student performance, drugs can be spread and do even more harm through the school system. Maybe not random testing... maybe testing and a search if a student is suspected of having/using them.


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Posts: 351 | Posted: 6:28 PM on January 5, 2003 | IP
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Ok then, define "suspect" When I went to school, I have a big, heavy backpack that nobody (other than me) knew the exact contents to. One day I would pull out a 12-pack of Pepsi (the ONLY cola) and the next day a pillow and blanket for exam day. I never did have drugs, but that did not stop them from searching my pack quite often. (acually, I think they were more worried about guns in there b/c it was a mil surplus backpack)


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Posts: 134 | Posted: 6:26 PM on January 9, 2003 | IP
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In my opinion, drug testing should be allowed.  If you are so worried about being caught then you shouldn't be doing drugs.  It should also be allowed for school athletics, because if they want to make the team they should have nothing to hide from teammates.  If you want to make a team, you should do it honestly, by not doing drugs.  Another reason that drug testing should be allowed is because doing drugs is illegal, unless you are perscribed a drug like marajuana for cancer, you should have no business taking or doing the illegal drugs.  You have no idea what the drug can do to you because everyone reacts differently to them.  Therefore drug testing should be allowed in school and for athletics.            
                 Brandie   Clinton Twp. Michigan

 


Posts: 0 | Posted: 9:45 PM on January 13, 2003 | IP
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EVERYONE has the right to a free and safe public education.  therefore it is illegal to random drug test students.  however, there is no such right to extracurricular activities.  when students sign up for sports or clubs, they voluntarily give up their right to refuse a drug test (meaning NO invasion of privacy!)  random drug testing will lower the drug usage of students who are scared of getting caught...and who wouldn't want that???  schools cannot arrest you if u test positive for  a random drug test.  they can refer you to drug counciling and suspend you from afterschool activites, but they CANNOT arrest you.  (they can if ur suspected of being under the influence in school, but not for a random drug test).  schools can randomly drug test athletes and other students in extracurricular activities, and whether you like it or not, they have every right to do so.
 


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Posts: 0 | Posted: 08:43 AM on February 18, 2003 | IP
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i dont know , im doing a devbate on drug teting in my school, i dont know if im for it or against it. it is an invasion of privacy but yet it can help those who do drugs hardcore. i dunno? someone help!!

jamie
 


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School Drug testing should be more organized than having a kid that doesn't do drugs be tested 4 times and those who do drugs not get tested at all.  It is also an invasion of privacy to have to leave the door open so that you don't use fake urine, they should just have a police officer to make sure that you don't have any fake urine on you so you can shut the door and no thave your privacy invaded.
 


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i tink drug testing its not necesary , but only with a cause !
 


Posts: 0 | Posted: 11:15 AM on March 27, 2003 | IP
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Drug testing might get innocent people in trouble.  I don't know what kind of drug testing everyone is talking about, but it's well-known that eating poppyseeds (bagels, muffins) will make you test positive for Opium.

Also - even just being around marijuana smoke it can get into your system even if you don't smoke it directly.  Let's say you are at a party and you happen to walk into a room where a bunch of people are smoking and the room is filled with it.  Whether you leave the party right away or not, it's probably in your body.  Would it be fair to suspend or expell a kid from school for inhaling someone else's exhale by mistake?
 


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Someone said earlier that drug testing should be allowed for student athletes because they choose to do the sport.  But, do they?  After just completing high school and being accepted into a prestigious university, I can tell you that doing any extracurricular activity is not a choice.  The only choice is which one you will do.  If you don't participate in these activities, then you don't get into a good college (statistically, there COULD be some exceptions, but they wouldn't be anywhere near the rule.)  Also, your friends compete in these activities.  Who would you hang around with if you didn't want to submit yourself?  Luckily my school did not drug test.  There are many American students who believe that their liberties should not be taken away and that the foundations of the American Constitution should apply to every aspect of life possible, even high school students, when possible.  If there was drug testing in my school, people like me wouldn't have submitted to it.  This would have alienated me from my friends, lowered my chances to get into good colleges, and (statistically) lowered my chances to get the best paying job I could.  In essence, when you say someone has the choice, you're right.  Someone has the choice to stand up for what they believe or to lower their quality of life.  How much of a choice is that?
 


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I can tell you that doing any extracurricular activity is not a choice.

Of course it is.

If you don't participate in these activities, then you don't get into a good college (statistically, there COULD be some exceptions, but they wouldn't be anywhere near the rule.)  

It's the rule.  Extracurriculars are looked at when your test scores and grades are weak.
 


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I think that random drug testing is an obtrusion into the privacy of many students, and does nothing to help. There should be a suspicion before they test. If there is no suspicion, then it is an embarassment and a waste of classtime for a student.

Sports activities are usually the most common places for drug testing, and alot of the times, the most common place for drug users to get found out.


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There are many people in my school who do drugs during school and the teachers are completely oblivious, or at least pretend to be. Because they know that they won't get caught, they use drugs more and more often and school and often disrupt the people around them. I think that drug testing in schools would almost eliminate this problem. Even the fear of knowing that they might get caught can cause kids to be much more careful about when they do it and can even stop some people from doing drugs altogether.
 


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