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Are you for Year-Round School?

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Posts: 31 | Posted: 7:18 PM on April 30, 2002 | IP
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I am not for school year round.

reason #1 School in the summer would involve air conditioning.  The money invested into that should be used for educational aids.

reason #2  Kids need a break.  They need something to look forward to.  Everyone wants a vacation.  Let them have their fun when they are young.  

reason #3  Summer vacation is the perfect oppertunity for kids to get jobs to teach them a little about responsibility and independence as well as social skills.  

reason #4  We haven't had any problems with the way school was before.  If you change it you risk a decade of childrens' futures.  Think of the stress it could bring to the kids all work and no play.  Everyone needs a break and school isn't all that easy.

reason #5 parents need time to take family vacations.  It's important for families to have that time to bond.  

reason #6 think of all the pens and pencils you'll have to buy.

reason #7 I sure would be mad if they took my vacation away.  As a child I probably would have refused to do school work during the old summer vacation time period.


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I'm not sure people are aware of the origin of "summer vacation." School used to let out during the summer so that the children could help their parents with the harvest.

Needless to say, our society has largly left behind such quaint, agrigarian pracitices.

Personally, summer vactaion became rather dull after the first month. After the All-Star game, I would find myself with more time than my meager possessions and sparse companions could occupy. While I did not look forward to school, I certainly did not mind having that as a means of killing 6 hours every day, making the other 8 waking hours more enjoyable.

I agree that kids need breaks, but they don't need to have one giant, three month long lull in their education every year.

Regarding "summer jobs": Winter Vacation is probably a better time to get a job, as far as ease of employment goes, and when they are in college, chances are they will have to learn to balance school and work, so gaining that experience in highschool will be more helpful to them.


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Maria is very uneducated.  Year round schooling, students still go to school the same number of days each year and they still get a summer break.  Durring the school year there are a few more breaks and the breaks already in use are a little longer...except summer break.  It's 6 weeks instead of three months.
 


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there's just one big kicker against yrs. camps. The average 8 week summer camp will perish with yrs. Even shorter camps will be hard pressed to compete against family vacations.


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Perhaps I'm ignorant on the matter, but what summer camp lasts longer than a week or two?


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many general summer camps are 8 week programs. As a general rule, the general, do everything, stay in a cabin bunk sleepaway camps have 4 and 8 week programs. specialized camps (as in "im going to baseball camp" or "im going to debate camp") are much shorter. College camps also tend to be on the short side.But the old school style camps definitly are at least 6 weeks longs generally.


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hmmmm, well this is interesting, i believe maria is wrong, the cost for air conditioning is irrelevant, it is payed by the tax payers not the school,if it was year around school, there would be no summer vacation and almost no time bound, the pens and paper cost almost nothing if you buy them later on in the air becasue they are not in such great demand anymore, and if the kids wanted something to look forward to, they should be given maybe a day off every two weeks alont with weekends off, and the jobs thing, that is just plain idiocy, because there is a law against under age working... there are many camps that last longer than 2 week camps but so many as before, if we were to only have maybe 2 weeks of vacation im sure families will have to re-think their vacation and make it less as long so the kids can eenjoy themselves more and be able to be at home, i will not take sides in this matter, many,many companies rely on summer vacation and some of them may go broke or collapse because of no real big vacation... although kids may be unhappy because of year round school, im sure they would eventually get over it and then accept it eventually
 


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People can accept many things. That doesn't make it right. But child labor laws only apply to teens if the work is dangerous. A teenager can still get a summer job at say, mcdonalds. Or maybe an internship.


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[b][color=lime]            uh i think...uh no no year round schooling but uh yeah at the same time. just because it would have more vacations which really doesnt matter
 


Posts: 0 | Posted: 11:16 AM on September 3, 2002 | IP
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What is with "Year Round Schooling" BS?  I mean, our students are learning nothing as it is.  Why squeeze our budget even more, so that parents have full time babysitters?  Sorry, those who actually believe in the system, but wake up to reality.  The majority of students go to some form of summer school.  Will year-round school work?  It is as beneficial as a heart attack


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Posts: 4 | Posted: 12:57 PM on September 5, 2002 | IP
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this is funny, i can see y it doesnt work for u, because ur post is absolutely idiotic, school does help, a lot, but not as much as it should, im pretty sure u did not go to school, school is what makes us,us! with out it we would be nothing
 


Posts: 83 | Posted: 5:39 PM on September 6, 2002 | IP
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Year round schools may have the same number of public school days, but they are short breaks.  A friend needs time to be alone with another friend, a while.  And summer camps help, other than the fact that my friend Morgan got pregnant at one...  Anyway, the summer, a kid can be with his friend for multiple sleep overs, or something.  Im a bit of an anti socialist, so i wouldnt know.  But friends are there for eachother, and should be.  That is why sumemr break is a god that students worship.


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Posts: 438 | Posted: 3:32 PM on September 24, 2002 | IP
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I think we shouldn't have year round school. That would be too much for kids to handle. They need the summer to cool off and start over for the next school year. The teachers need the break as well. They would hate to have to grade all year. Just 2 days a week to catch up on grading. No on year round schooling.
 


Posts: 0 | Posted: 1:38 PM on October 28, 2002 | IP
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i think all the parents in the school district should vote on that issue solely...that would let  a fair decision be made...yr round school like regular school has its pros and cons.


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Posts: 451 | Posted: 2:52 PM on November 13, 2002 | IP
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Where I live, There are some regular-summer break schools, some year-round school, and a few with other, odder school schedules. Each family can choose based on what they need and want. I think the system here works rather well.
 


Posts: 122 | Posted: 06:29 AM on November 14, 2002 | IP
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that seems to be a good way to solve it.


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Posts: 451 | Posted: 12:38 PM on November 14, 2002 | IP
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[color=navy] I have several opinions on this topic. I myself cannot really defend either side of the debate, because each are both perfectly arguable from my point of view. First, I'll take the Pro for YRS. Year Round School would enable students to keep a sharp, focused edge all of the time, where I have seen many cases, especially in the lower grades, where kids have not thought about Math or English for such a long time they forget basic rules, and the first 1/4 of the school year is spent reviewing and refurbishing these skills. It is a waste of time! Plus, short, rejuvinating breaks can prove to be better, because kids aren't forced to work straight through 9 months with week-long breaks here and there.


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i think its easy for students to forget a lot of stuff that they learn (particularly foreign language) over a long summer break


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Posts: 971 | Posted: 12:56 AM on January 5, 2003 | IP
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WHY should school be year round. I'musually don't take the change is bad view, but on this I have to. Summer break is like recieving a huge reward after doing something great. It shows the students that passed the grade and worked hard that working hard pays off. It is also a great time for a young person to take up a class for a skill instead constantly working in a desk all day.
 


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[b]I don't really want year-round schooling because not only would it be a waste of time but it wouldnt give us teens time to hang out with our friends during the summer and go to all those partys and all that good stuff...so in other words no we shouldnt have year-round schooling and thats my opinion! Thanxs-
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I believe that school should ahve a summer break.  For high school students and a few middle school students having jobs is full time jobs during parts of the year is almost impossible.  It makes employers look at the fact that the student can't work as often as a full time employee so why hire them.  Not to mention the fact that school does stress students, why would we want to stress them all year.  Anything that I was taught i normally forget within a week after it was taught to me and I still get all A's and have been accepted to take college classes as a senior in high school.  Year round schooling in the summers would also cause a need for air-conditioning,  schools do have to send students home if it gets too hot.  Most schools over 15 years old, which is most of them, dont have air-conditioning.  They would have to raise taxes to pay for that remodeling.  Yes, summer break was based so students could go home and help their parents work on the farm or what have you.  But more and more students are starting to get jobs which bring money into their household whish is what summer break was based on in the first place.  Our schedules have done fine until now, why question the fact of a system that works.
 


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I am in favor of year-round school.  A 45 week school year with a new class enrolling and a senior class graduating every grading period would cut 2.6 years off what is now a K-12 education.  Students could enter school at a later age or graduate early.

Keeping a 13 year education schedule and reforming the K-12 curriculum would allow time for enough AP courses to allow high school students to graduate with an associates degree.  Students not bound for college could use the extra time for vocational training.

Having courses based on the grading period rather than the school year would allow failing students to make up their work without having to fail an entire school year.  

A 45-week academic year divided into 5 grading periods would allow a 1-3 week break every 9 weeks.

Eliminating summer break could hurt the tourist and sleep-away camp industries, but after 9-11 how much more damage could be done?

Saying schools would have to airconditioned during the summer is no reason to keep summer vacation since the south (especially Florida) needs AC in August, September, March, April, May and June.  Furthermore northern states need heat during the winter, but we still go to school in the winter.

Eliminating summer vacation would make it harder for students to get jobs, but do we really need more people working at McDonald's?

Eliminating summer vacation would also lower juvenile crime and reduce the need for daycare.
 


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[color=navy]I agree that kids need something to look forward to.  But it would get us through school faster and maybe it would be easier, the fact that we never stop learning something. So I think there are advantages AND disadvantages.


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[color=navy] year-round schooling is nearly exactly the same as normal! it's just a little less stressful because of the frequent breaks! oh, and thank you, Exxoss, for saving us from impending doom.
 


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Quote from Jigokusabre at 10:23 PM on August 21, 2002 :
Perhaps I'm ignorant on the matter, but what summer camp lasts longer than a week or two?



Why would anyone want school in the summer, now come on?

 


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Why would you want tpo go to school in the summer? What about the A/C?
 


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Why would you want school in the summer, if you could be swiming or laying out and gettin tan, hangin wit friends, having parties? WHY?
 


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THINK OF ALL TYE PENS AND PENCILS U WOULD BUY!!!
 


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year round schooling has NO benefits... Its So0o0o stupid!!!
 


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year round schooling is a horrible idea.  The kids would be learning nothing more than they would a normal school year.  They'd be exhausted.  people need breaks once in a while, and not a short one.  Most kids need time to be kids.  and a two week break isn't gonna cut it.
 


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Hey this is Amiizzle Ashlizzles friend and year round school, Hunny plz, that aint the answer![color=aqua][color=blue]
 


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Omg you people are nuts year round schooling if you think about logicly it will help your students in like everyway I am a sr. in high school but I am on traditional. But my friends is on year round schooling and he has by far the higher IQ becuase they dont forget everything they learn over the summer. I am one of those guys that is lazy as hell but I mean if I could get yrs in my school it would benifit everyone in the school. A/c during the summer is not a problem most school already have it but they jsut dont use it( dont ask me why the school district is stupid ) that is my opion you to talk about it email me

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uniforms aren't going to make us get along better.  There are still going to be cliques and groups there are now.  Except, now everyone will be dressed the same.
 


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YEAR ROUND SCHOOL JUST PLAIN SUCKS!!!!


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Posts: 8 | Posted: 11:53 PM on November 13, 2004 | IP
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My only comment on this (I home school...so our school year IS year round!) is the following, from a whimsical T-shirt my son, 10, owns:


The truly educated, never graduate.



 


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As far as the origin of summer vacation I don't really buy the farming thing

I don't live in farmland I live in an urban area but unless I am mistaken there are two important times for farming, the spring planting and the fall harvest, where does summer fit into this helping with the farm scenario? all the big work happens before and after summer vacation.
 


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okay to the one with the brainy neva stop learnin kid     i'm sorry you feel the need for year round school but see if you do that most students i kno will want to learn less. i love summer because i get to interact with kids my age like actually have fun. people say that at school you learn to get along with your peers but thats because if you dont there are serious consequenses   also i learn stuff outsid of school to. i went on a people to people trip over the SUMMER and learned a lot about othe countries. If you think we shouldnt have summer vacation you need a social life
 


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     I am deffanantly for NO year round school!
     #1, it DOES NOT  help your kids' accademic level.
     #2, it leaves your kids with 2 tons of weight on their shoulders
    And #3, what perent would want to be away from their kids that long?  [i][color=red]


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Um, you wouldn't be around your kid less... think of it this way (if it helps you).  Option 1)  Go to school for nine months.  Get three months off.  Option 2).  Got to school for three weeks.  Get one week off.  Rinse, repeat.  Same amount of days at home with your kid.  Same amount of days in school learning.  Just more breaks.  Having grown up in Arizona, I would've preferred having a little more time off in the non-summer months when one could go outside without melting.  Now that I'm living in Nebraska, I'd like to have a few more weeks during the winter months when I don't have to drag my kids through the snow to get to school.  Just my two cents.


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[/color]wow a forum that's been running for 3 years - interesting.

i'm curious though.. how many of you:

a) have kids
b) are teachers
c) actually have all the facts

speaking as a parent of kids who were in a 41/15 year round schedule ... it works (most of the time)

if you don't like - send your kids to school someplace else

btw... the US has the shortest school day & shortest school calendar in the world... can't imagine why we can't compete[color=maroon]
 


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btw... the US has the shortest school day & shortest school calendar in the world... can't imagine why we can't compete


While it's true the U.S. is falling behind in comparison to other schools around the globe, the notion that the U.S. has less school than all competitors is false. Germany, for instance, has a six-week summer vacation and more than two months worth of vacation sprinkled throughout the rest of the year.


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I believe that the answer is to turn over the school system over to the free market, and to fire teachers that don't do a good job. If I got the grades that our schools get I'd still be in first grade.


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