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Should we have sex education in school? What should be taught and how early?
 


Posts: 31 | Posted: 9:58 PM on October 16, 2002 | IP
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If they dont learn it in school they'll just learn it on tv and movies.


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I think, idealy, parents should teach children how reproduction works and how to protect themselves.

But, since not all will:

I think school should teach the parts of the reproductive organs and how they work in 5th grade. And then, somewhere in middle school children should be taught about how to avoid disease and pregnancy, both through abstinence and condoms, birth control pills, etc.

(Edited by mrmazet 10/17/2002 at 9:43 PM).
 


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Thats pretty much how it goes...


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If you agree that's how it shoudl go, thank you.

If you think that's how it always goes, then, I guess you've missed the whole abstinence-only vs. abstinence and other safer methods for sex controversy... becuase... there is one.

 


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thats how it goes, as in thats pretty much what they teach, I dont debate sex very often so I wasnt aware of very much flamming contraversy.


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kids learn about sex when they're 9.  they learn from their friends, and tv, and movies.  They learn that its nasty and bad.  But its not.  Sex is a beautiful thing, under the right circumstances.  And it is a parents job to teach their kids that.  My mom didn't tell me about sex, I learned it in school, from movies, tv, and friends.  I learned all the wrong things, and I thought it was nasty and dirty.  My mom finally sat me down to have "the talk" when I was 14, a freshman in high school, come on!!  That was about two months before I got raped.  
I have 3 nieces who are 11, 12, and 13.  Their mom has talked openly about sex with them for as long as they can remember.  Sometimes I think they know more about it than I do, and I'm 19!!  They know enough about sex to wait until they are ready.  They don't have to be curious and have sex just to find out about it.  I think PARENTS should talk to their kids about sex as soon as possible!!


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Quote from squirt1983 at 10:31 PM on October 20, 2002 :
kids learn about sex when they're 9.  they learn from their friends, and tv, and movies.  They learn that its nasty and bad.  But its not.  Sex is a beautiful thing, under the right circumstances.  And it is a parents job to teach their kids that.  My mom didn't tell me about sex, I learned it in school, from movies, tv, and friends.  I learned all the wrong things, and I thought it was nasty and dirty.  My mom finally sat me down to have "the talk" when I was 14, a freshman in high school, come on!!  That was about two months before I got raped.  
I have 3 nieces who are 11, 12, and 13.  Their mom has talked openly about sex with them for as long as they can remember.  Sometimes I think they know more about it than I do, and I'm 19!!  They know enough about sex to wait until they are ready.  They don't have to be curious and have sex just to find out about it.  I think PARENTS should talk to their kids about sex as soon as possible!!


I think parents should teach their children about sex, but, I think schools should also becuase:
1. Some parents don't.
2. Some parents don't know the truth about sex and about birth control.
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3. TV, movies, and friends can be wrong.
 


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TV, movies and friends are are mostly always wrong.


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Quote from thistownwilleatu at 3:27 PM on October 21, 2002 :
TV, movies and friends are are mostly always wrong.


Some friends can be wrong, but, my experiences have been different. Mostly, I learned stuff from my brother and his friends (2 years older) and I can't think of anything they told me that was wrong. It was me who was the kid telling the friends stuff about sex, and I also can't think of anything false told there either.

I said this was my experiences, maybe I'm the rare person that makes it "almost always" instead of "always".

(Edited by mrmazet 10/21/2002 at 4:39 PM).
 


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Hell no! sex ed in fifth grade was where i learned a lot of special words...>  But besides that, sex ed teaches the part of sex that is bad;birth, family rejection, etc.  Thus, mostly good comes from sex ed.


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Why shouldnt it be taught? Its completely normal almost everyone has sex it is how to create life. i think it should be taught. maybe around middle school.


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I'd say that people have sex for pleasure rather than for kids.(Who wants kids anyways)


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I can't even remember what i learned in 5th grade.  It is very uncomfortable to have a parent talk to you about sex.  I learned almost everything in 8th grade health and then i learned a lot of new stuff this year.  10th grade biology covers it just a bit.
 


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thats great in public schools but my little brother started going to private schools in 3rd grade. his first school tought sex ed but his second school, which i went to for 3 months this year, dosent even talk about it. its so tabo there that all i got were cold stares when i mensoned an add in a news paper i picked up about geting payed to have sex. private schools should be forced to give sex-ed in some form or another.
p.s. i got kicked out for "being crude and destrupting the learnig enviorment of others." as if!


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sex edd in schools is important. it seems to like they have the system down pretty well its just all the media is getting it wrong and screwing it all up.


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Posts: 19 | Posted: 12:36 AM on April 29, 2005 | IP
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My 4th Grade-- We learned about the males' sexual reproductive organs. And sex. Only other males were allowed inside the classroom. Lots of giggling.

My 5th Grade-- We learned about the females' sexual reproductive organs. And sex. Only other males were allowed inside the classroom. Less giggling, more uncomfortable squirming

My 6th Grade-- We learned about both female and male sexual behavior. You know, all that "Your Body is Changing" stuff. Both males and females intermingle and try to not look at each other in the classroom. No giggling, uncomfortable squirming becomes a source of humor.

(Of course, for 4th and 5th grade, the revera would be true if you were a girl)....

I was in a public school *gasp* *gasp* :--)....

...And then in middle school (Which was also public, I'm in a private school for high school), we did the whole thing all over again, but this time they made us carry around "babies" AKA Grade A large chicken eggs with little faces painted on them and given names...of course, I got minus 10 on that project, stupid Nathaniel just decided to flail his hand out and shatter my poor baby.. sniff...

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          Sex ed in schools is a wonderful thing but in past experiences such as what Fox mentioned previously. We have learned practically the same thing over and over again for the past several years. The point is that if you keep telling kids to not have sex and to stay away from STD's - (did you hear they're STI's now... the "I" stands for infection(s) - for many years, they will eventually stop listening and forget everything that was taught to them. So Sex ed is a needed part of the curriculum but should begin in Seventh grade.


           Also I thought the "egg baby" thing was fun especially when I coated the inside with glue, put it in an indestructable container, and then used it as a football during class. After me, the teacher said that you could only carry them in baskets. Plus his name was Lucifer.


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Sex education should be taught in schools as early as possible (even around the 1st grade), especially in Catholic schools. The reason I mention Catholic schools is because of the pedophilic priests around. If a child is educated in sex, that child can better defend himself/herself against sexual predators like pedophilic priests by running away from the priest and notifying an authority figure (parent, police, etc).


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The majority of preasts aren't pepophiles, you probably get more pedophiles from teachers etc. But the biggest risk is abduction and family members, its just their has been a big thing about preasts recently and its all over exagerated.


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Quote from Peter87 at 05:04 AM on June 22, 2005 :
The majority of preasts aren't pepophiles, you probably get more pedophiles from teachers etc. But the biggest risk is abduction and family members, its just their has been a big thing about preasts recently and its all over exagerated.


Not only are there a lot of pedophilic priests, but the criminal Vatican also tried to cover up the priest's crimes against children in an attempt to keep their "clean" image. The Vatican is the most vile criminal organization out there.



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Ever met the triads? Or the Russian Mafia?


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Quote from Peter87 at 10:44 AM on June 22, 2005 :
Ever met the triads? Or the Russian Mafia?


No I haven't. Let me state this. The Catholic Church and Vatican have caused the death of more people than the Triads, Russian Mafia, Italian Mafia, Nazis, and a few others "combined". Throughout the 1000 plus years of existence, the Vatican has caused the deaths of approximately 2 billion people (one third the current population of Earth). Currently, the Vatican is causing mass genocides in Africa and South America by telling people there that condoms doesn't prevents AIDS. Those people are having unprotected sex thanks to the Vatican and their condom burning campaign. Oh, and to get back to the topic of teaching sex in school, yes children need to learn about sex as early as possible, especially in Catholic schools, to protect themselves against pedophilic priests and to avoid pregnancies and diseases by using a condom that the Pope (Dope) and Vatican tells people not to use.

The new Pope (Dope) is continuing the trend of Catholic crimes. See this link: Africans should apostasize

(Edited by Raelian1 6/23/2005 at 12:27 PM).


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Ok, the vatican has been around for a 1000+ years. The Nazi's were around from about 1931, not sure on that date, to 1945. Thats 14 years. So death counts need to be scaled. You'll find that the vatican hasn't caused as many deaths proportionaly over time. However the vatican did bring control and civilisation to europe, and then that civilisation was spread through out the world. Yes I totaly agree on condom's issue. It is the pedophlic preasts that I totaly disagree with, children are at as much risk from teachers as preasts.
But I think there is little point teaching 10 year olds about sex, ten year olds don't want to have sex, children don't really need to know all the details until just before pubity.


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Peter87, I think the point he is trying to make is that, true 10 year olds do not want to have sex, the issue is who wants to have sex WITH them. It is true also there are sexually predatory teachers and priests alike, there are also family members, babysitters, and any number of people that your children come into contact with on a daily basis.
  I hate to think of teaching a child these things at such an early age as well, it robs them of their chance to be children and not worry about things fora while. It is also a good point however, that if a child is educated as to the signs to watch for they may be able to pretect themselves against a problem that is growing at an alarming rate.
  There is another problem with this however, with all the coverage in the news on sexual predation, is it not also possible that the imagination of a child could bring about charges where none really exist?


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The children could become paranoid and worried and could easily misinterpret or imagine the signs.


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Excuse me I went to your site and I think that the Pope had every right to speak the way he did, remember He is speaking not on behalf of Himself but of the Church and Of God!

Points to note:

1. Church Manogamy the expression that there should be a union of marriage between one man and one wife, should pretty much ellimanate the chance of AIDS IN MOST CASES!

2.I would like you to post actual statistics if you please on where and and how many condoms where burned in the last 1000 years+?
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3. Well first  of all they do teach sex in school at a very early age read this:
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(Edited by Smiegal 7/21/2005 at 6:50 PM).

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Unfortunately, in my family we had no sex talk.What i learned , i did in University and boy, i was lucky!But the good thing that my parents tought me was how to make good choices, how to recognise the bad ones.I think this is the main problem.Nowadays there is so much information about sex.I would prefer to tell myself to my son about sex, in a safe enviroment.The school helps , but i read the curriculum here in NZ and is not up to standards, in my opinion.
 


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Sex Ed should be tought in schools. Being still in school my self i know what a horible thing it is not knowing what everyone elses knows. Alot of people my age have had sex and now a days it seems more and more kids are having sex. Then again i dont know about the days before now because well i am still young. At school we get drilled into us about fatty foods and smoking and drug use. But alot more people can benifit from sex ed than anyother kind of health that we have to learn.


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I'm from Europe, and so I'm very confused now, because you debate if sex education should be thaught in schools.
I had sex ed in 5th, 6th, 7th, 8th and 10th grade. In 5th, 6th and 7th grade it was more theory, in 8th grade we learned everything about condoms etc. and even got some from our teachers.
Sex education is normal in my country, and it should be too in the US, because if you read the statistics you will see that the USA has the highest teen pregnancy rate of all industrial countries, which would be different if kids were thaught everything that's important about sex and especially safer sex, and not about abstinence...
 


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Please, you think kids are getting pregnant in the USA because they haven't heard of condoms?  Seriously?


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No, but I think that if the great part of 'sexual education' is about abstinence, and that sex is bad or whatever, it's more possible that kids are afraid to even buy condoms. And if they don't know how to use a condom correctly (and there are lots of those) they are more likely to get pregnant even if they have safer sex.
 


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Of course, they are also more likely to not have children or catch AIDs, Clap, whatever if they don't have sex.  And, of course, a condom is just a bridge for crabs.  Yeah, how dare we teach abstinence.  Perhaps we should also teach our children the proper way to roll a joint instead of teaching them to stay away from drugs or how to hold a gun instead of teaching them not to kill their classmates.  What are we thinking?


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Of course, they are also more likely to not have children or catch AIDs, Clap, whatever if they don't have sex.  And, of course, a condom is just a bridge for crabs.  Yeah, how dare we teach abstinence.  Perhaps we should also teach our children the proper way to roll a joint instead of teaching them to stay away from drugs or how to hold a gun instead of teaching them not to kill their classmates.  What are we thinking?


There is no "safer technique" to roll a joint, and not nearly as many people gun down classmates as have sex with them. Teaching abstinence is important, but the fact is that students will still have sex. A great number of them won't walk away pregnant and destroy the rest of their school carreer if they're taught, for example, that wearing two condoms is not safe.

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Color me cynical, I guess I just believe that this is the type of thing that the PARENTS are responsible for teaching.  Sad thing is, most of them probably don't.  I just find it rather hypocritical to tell my children DO NOT DO such-and-such, but if you do....   If they aren't going to listen to the "don't" part, how stupid are we to think they'll listen to the "but if" part?


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Color me cynical, I guess I just believe that this is the type of thing that the PARENTS are responsible for teaching.  Sad thing is, most of them probably don't.  I just find it rather hypocritical to tell my children DO NOT DO such-and-such, but if you do....   If they aren't going to listen to the "don't" part, how stupid are we to think they'll listen to the "but if" part?


There are, at a very gross minimum, at least a hundred students at my school who have had sex. There have been less than five teen pregnancies in the entire time I've been at my high school. Students do indeed listen to the "but if" part.


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Apparently they aren't listening to the part about how it doesn't protect you from crabs, and is not as effective as abstinence against AIDs and pregnancy.  Plus, most people don't get pregnant EVERY time they have sex.  5% are getting pregnant.... how many are just getting lucky?


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Of course, they are also more likely to not have children or catch AIDs, Clap, whatever if they don't have sex.  And, of course, a condom is just a bridge for crabs.  Yeah, how dare we teach abstinence.  Perhaps we should also teach our children the proper way to roll a joint instead of teaching them to stay away from drugs or how to hold a gun instead of teaching them not to kill their classmates.  What are we thinking?


You compare having sex before you're married to taking drugs or killing people? Sorry, I didn't realise we live in 1321...
 


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Me neither, guess that's why I'm using a computer.


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How funny...
Seriously, where's the connection between having sex and taking drugs or killing??
 


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The connection was the line of thinking, not the acts themselves (although I'm sure you were aware of this and are just acting ignorant for the sake of argument).


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im 17,a Filipina and im a tudent.

i learned about sex both from my friends, tv, even dvd's, magazines and in school.  

the difference is that in tv,dvd,magazines, it is not explained well. and the only thing tackled mostly in those are the act itself [i] so teens my age, i suppose, learn only the shallow part of the whole sex thing. unlike when it was discussed in school by my guidance counselor, she made things clear and she tackled not the act itself but the before and aftermaths of it. the pros and cons of having sex in different level and stages in life. having it taught in school, my friends and i learned the TRUTH about it and that made us more mature when it comes to that topic.

with that, i believe that sex education MUST be taught in schools.

by the way, i haven't even had the chance to talk about sex with my parents.  

if im not mistaken, i was 15 when that was discussed to us. but because of the fast changes in our society right now and the differences in culture, i cannot really suggest a definite age or grade it should be taught in school. i guess it will depend on the culture and the maturity of children.


 


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How is it that you haven't had a chance to talk to your parents about it?  


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I guess we need to have Big Bro do every thing for us, I mean if it weren't for the government who would raise the next generation of workers?


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It is not our education institution's job to teach students about sex and morality. Their job is to teach how to add and subtract, teach students about our Founding Fathers, and what a proton is.

Sex is a personal issue that should be left in the hands of the parents. If a parent's religious beliefs, in regards to sex, oppose that of what the school teaches, then one can easily run into all sorts of problems.

IF government schools insist on teaching sex education, it should be by request by the children's parents, and parent involvement in the sex education is a must.


 


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Yes, the school does not hae the right to force sex edgeucation on us.


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Posts: 681 | Posted: 9:22 PM on September 26, 2007 | IP
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i honestly find that having to learn sex related stuff early in school is absurd for example my teacher taught us about sex and abortion pills in grade 3. WE HAD NO IDEA WHAT THE HECK SHE WAS TALKING ABOUT


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And it is the job of Mommy and Daddy.


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I'd teach sex education as an elective in grades 10- 12.  


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As an elective I'm not against it, just as a mandatory class do the problems begin.



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