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To the issues of Global Warming, I propose that everyonw in the world is gulity as a suspect of Global Warming. We all use products that we can't imagine to live without, and to produce these products we need factories. These factories produce pollution that goes  up into the air which increases the level of Global Warming. Now what to do? We can't just stop using these products, it will be nearly impossible. The only thing we can do is be more careful and have patience. Patience for a way to solve this problem. So to say global Warming should be stopped...why do you stop your daily life to live up to your belief? To say you're against it, but still have the nerve to walk around knowing you've icreased the level of Global Warming by the smallest bit...that still makes you  a hypocrite! [random]
 


Posts: 0 | Posted: 09:10 AM on June 5, 2003 | IP
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Gobal warming is not man made. we are merely experiencing a predictable cycle.

90% of so called green house gases are produced naturally, the remaining 10% are a result of Man's endeavours...and yet we are asked to believe that if we can cut this manmade output by 10% or even 15% we can make some sort of difference.

What arrogance. Rather than spend pointless money on efforts to reverse the inevitable, we would be better to spend these funds on projects to minimise the impact.

At one point in history it was possible to walk from Britain to continental Europe without getting your feet wet...but it would have bitterly cold the whole way.  The glaciers have been retreating  for 000's of years. Do we really think stone age man started global warming?

Please remeber, the earth has been a lot warmer than it is now, it's also been a lot colder (more than once)

Part of the problem is there are too many unknowns and also as many theories.

One theroy offers that as the earth warms it will inevitably lead to cooling. Sound like a contradiction, here's how it goes. The earth warms...the polar caps melt...millions of gallons of icy water enter the earths oceans....they in turn cool and result in less evaporation, less rain, less wind, fewer clouds, more heat escaping into space....earth cools and freezes.

Humanity runs around like a headless chicken trying to work it all out and Mother Nature nearly expires from laughter at our antics.




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Posts: 2 | Posted: 12:47 PM on January 7, 2004 | IP
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Back in the 1700's it was commonly believed that no animal could go extinct because God would not allow it.  

Up until the 1960's it was a "scientific fact" that the soil of the earth itself had a restorative effect which would act not only to contain but also remediate contamination.

Since then animals have gone extinct due to direct human intervention.  There are currently multiple cases in United States federal and state courts concerning pollution in the ground contaminating water tables, TCE being the most current issue.

The point is this, the theory that global warming is merely a trend and nothing we do effects the earth's climate is similar to an ostrich sticking its head in the ground.  Time and again we have denied the human impact on the environment believing that the earth would not allow itself to be harmed.  Nonsense, it's as if we believe that this planet is some kind of a padded cell where we can bang around as much as we like without doing any damage to ourselves or what is around us.

The simple truth is that humanity needs to control its actions.  You can't smoke all you like and expect to be healthy forever.


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Posts: 2 | Posted: 10:32 PM on March 1, 2004 | IP
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To the issues of Global Warming, I propose that everyonw in the world is gulity as a suspect of Global Warming.


Did you know that when cows fart, they contribute to global warming?

Kill the cows!

(Edited by CommentMan 3/23/2004 at 04:12 AM).
 


Posts: 20 | Posted: 04:11 AM on March 23, 2004 | IP
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Quote from Origin at 10:32 PM on March 1, 2004 :
Back in the 1700's it was commonly believed that no animal could go extinct because God would not allow it.  

Up until the 1960's it was a "scientific fact" that the soil of the earth itself had a restorative effect which would act not only to contain but also remediate contamination.


And 100 years from now people are going to say 'back in the year 2005 they actually believed that humanity was significantly contributing to global warming' and then everyone will have a good laugh.
 


Posts: 60 | Posted: 04:42 AM on January 9, 2005 | IP
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Humans are contributing to global warming, you have to be sticking your head into the sand to think otherwise; yes, it's true we're at the end of an ice age, but for godless sakes, this DOESN'T mean we should be less stringent with greenhouse gas emissions, it means the EXACT OPPOSITE, it means that now is the WORST possible time to be frivolous.

In addition, over the last 30 years, the world temperature has undergone climate change that sits outside of the ice age calculations, we're the ones that did that, since we've been introducing industrialised hydrocarbons into the atmosphere on a global scale.

We have been subject to a lot more extreme weather than previous centuries, including those recorded as far back as british records go. More floods, more tornadoes, more hurricanes, and it's only going to get worse. Ice sheets holding back glaciers are melting and drifting off into the ocean, the sun is slowly getting hotter and people scream about economic growth being more important.

Global warming is a reality, one of the biggest threats to the continuation of our way of life, and the only solution as far as I'm concerned is Nuclear Power.


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Posts: 22 | Posted: 2:25 PM on January 12, 2005 | IP
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Global warming is the most dangerous thing to human existance. To denie that is us that is causeing it is totaly inacurate, the amount of CO2 gas in the atmosphere has drasticly increase, out of pattern with predictions, and it doesn't look like its going to stop.
The only reason Bush will do nothing about it because he is worried might get upset that petrol prices have gone up just to save countrys like bangladesh in a couple of generations. Its Ironic that the biggest provider of greenhouse gasses will be one of the least effected countrys by it.


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Posts: 301 | Posted: 6:20 PM on January 22, 2005 | IP
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it seems that the world was cappible to sustain itself perfectally untill man came   along and screwed up the whole thing.  were like a wrench in the clockwork.


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Posts: 19 | Posted: 12:44 AM on April 29, 2005 | IP
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yes, and now we need to remove that wrench, by making slight tax increases (on fossil fuels and other C02 contributaries) and invest that money into developing renewable energy, or hydrogen cells.


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Posts: 301 | Posted: 8:58 PM on April 29, 2005 | IP
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Quote from Peter87 at 8:58 PM on April 29, 2005 :
yes, and now we need to remove that wrench, by making slight tax increases (on fossil fuels and other C02 contributaries) and invest that money into developing renewable energy, or hydrogen cells.


Lovely. I love how you people talk with no common knowledge. You omit that the environment is a dynamic system that can handle almost anything thrown at it. Like CO2 a gas that is expelled every time we breath out this gas is eccential for plants to live they take in CO2 use it to create food for it's self the more CO2 the healther the plants. When the O zone  thins it lets in more ulta violet light this causes the plants to produce more ozone and it thickins the ozone layer. you people act as if the earths evironment is fragile it is not. If it were than shortly after the Gulf war our eco system would have colapsed look for MT penatubo it was a volcano that erupted when we were fighting all the oil fires in kuait it spewed more polutants in to the air than the entire industrialized nations could do in 100 years in 4 days and what do you know our environment didn't change. The whole global warming movment is a poltical ploy to control the US buy hampering it's economy. If you don't beleave me chk the keoto treaty the only countrys that have to abide buy it are the one's that polute the least. Oh one other thing before the last mini ice age which was around 600 years a go greenland was green and not a ball of ice. Where was the industrial and man's polution then?


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Posts: 127 | Posted: 9:24 PM on June 17, 2006 | IP
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Quote from Laptoploon at 12:47 PM on January 7, 2004 :
Gobal warming is not man made. we are merely experiencing a predictable cycle.

90% of so called green house gases are produced naturally, the remaining 10% are a result of Man's endeavours...and yet we are asked to believe that if we can cut this manmade output by 10% or even 15% we can make some sort of difference.

What arrogance. Rather than spend pointless money on efforts to reverse the inevitable, we would be better to spend these funds on projects to minimise the impact.

At one point in history it was possible to walk from Britain to continental Europe without getting your feet wet...but it would have bitterly cold the whole way.  The glaciers have been retreating  for 000's of years. Do we really think stone age man started global warming?

Please remeber, the earth has been a lot warmer than it is now, it's also been a lot colder (more than once)

Part of the problem is there are too many unknowns and also as many theories.

One theroy offers that as the earth warms it will inevitably lead to cooling. Sound like a contradiction, here's how it goes. The earth warms...the polar caps melt...millions of gallons of icy water enter the earths oceans....they in turn cool and result in less evaporation, less rain, less wind, fewer clouds, more heat escaping into space....earth cools and freezes.

Humanity runs around like a headless chicken trying to work it all out and Mother Nature nearly expires from laughter at our antics.





All you do is quote widely accepted scientific findings as evidence against a widely accepted scientific finding (global warming).

(Edited by rockclimber_10 1/17/2007 at 9:08 PM).


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Posts: 52 | Posted: 4:51 PM on January 17, 2007 | IP
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Why is it widely the exception?


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Posts: 1287 | Posted: 7:28 PM on January 17, 2007 | IP
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I like how, instead of answering the question, you just go back and edit your original post.


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Posts: 1287 | Posted: 8:43 PM on January 18, 2007 | IP
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Okay Google for a CO2 - Temperature link graph. Look at it.

Then tell anybody that cars and industries do not output CO2.

If man-made things put out CO2 into the atmosphere, and CO2 affects temperature, then I'm pretty sure that global warming is 'man made'.

As for it being natural, it is, just not at the speed at which we see it. Its nuts to see such an increase in just a few decades.


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Posts: 51 | Posted: 5:58 PM on May 8, 2007 | IP
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As I remember, the World used to be much hotter than it is today, and that the world goes through large weather swings. One volcanic explosion puts more CO2 in the air than man has in his entire existence put together.


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Posts: 681 | Posted: 9:24 PM on September 17, 2007 | IP
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Quote from SilverStar at 6:24 PM on September 17, 2007 :
As I remember, the World used to be much hotter than it is today, and that the world goes through large weather swings. One volcanic explosion puts more CO2 in the air than man has in his entire existence put together.



Some how I doubt you are 126 million years old to rember when the earth was hotter then today.

Emissiosn are not volcanos, nor are volconos steady.  VOlcanos do not put the same emmisiosn in the air. Co2 is 10% of the emission issue.

DO you realize yearly how much we realease into the air? Volcaon's and their rare activity at mass levels, have not thickened the layer in our atmosphere as it is now. Emissions have. Look and research data oon GLOBAL emmisions. Volcano's are not the threat. Volcano's are in more localized areas, emissiosn are on a wider global scale.

That is backed by data. THe changes have been happening for more the 20 years, but the msot alrmign period noted is the past 20 with mre sudden increases.. When I speak to elderly people, they are even alarmed at how odd things are. It's fact, it is happening, and it is a concern.

To other posts:  It isn't going to affect only areas we don't live in. It will be here in America, and other countries as well. Temp increased are seen steady here in the US now as well. Don't think just the past 10 years.

Criem in NYC has actaully decreased, not increased. Emmision levels have increased, not decreased.













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You state the bible condems Gay love. But the also also allows slavery and states woman serve their husband and are less then them, but you do not obey that? It is clear the bible has been rewritten by man, and the word of god is lost.
 


Posts: 16 | Posted: 10:41 PM on January 16, 2008 | IP
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THe earth is also a very sensitive envoroment.

SO ou do not find the loss of miles of ICe caps strange? Now keep in mind some of those now gone, have been cored, dated, and foudn to be over 126 million years old.
5 areas cored 8 years ago.... are gone.

So areas, Millions of years old, and have been there tht long... are now gone... you don't worry about that?

Co2 is not the only gas released...

Co2 is removed by treees converted to O2....

We are destoryign trees at an alrming rate as well, contributing to the issue... so it seems, its man made.

Added: THe glaciers cored give mroe data then you think. It tells them clearly when the most change has accured. It has not been 100's of years, and the glacier yo uspoke was not any the tiem of the britian rule.

(Edited by Scottd 1/16/2008 at 10:50 PM).


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You state the bible condems Gay love. But the also also allows slavery and states woman serve their husband and are less then them, but you do not obey that? It is clear the bible has been rewritten by man, and the word of god is lost.
 


Posts: 16 | Posted: 10:47 PM on January 16, 2008 | IP
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Also keep in mind how long this has been and industrialized world. been more then 100 years.






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You state the bible condems Gay love. But the also also allows slavery and states woman serve their husband and are less then them, but you do not obey that? It is clear the bible has been rewritten by man, and the word of god is lost.
 


Posts: 16 | Posted: 10:52 PM on January 16, 2008 | IP
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However I would imagine that if we were in an ice age than the warm up that brought us to here would have been seen as man made global warming.



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Posts: 681 | Posted: 01:20 AM on March 30, 2008 | IP
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The deviation of the C14/C12 isotope ratio shows up clearly at the beginning of the beginning of the industrial age, where do you think it comes from?


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Wikipedia:” For Earth, the mean radius is 6,371.009 km(≈3,958.761 mi; ≈3,440.069 nmi).”
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