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Ok first off when it comes down to flag burning, it is a matter of freedom of speech.  it is a form of speech through action, and the first amendment is designed to protect unpopular speech.

second, there is no logical way you could compare someone with a nuclear bomb in timesquare to someone burning an american flag.  bomb=action intended to harm, flag burning=speech in form of action to show dislike with government, or aspect of government.

I'll guarantee you, if you go walking down the middle of a public street or sidewalk in Texas, burning ANYTHING, you're probably headed for the crazy house!


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Hooyah, if your argument is that flag burning is not protected as free speech, then you already lose, the supreme ruled twice in Texas v. Johnson and US v. Eichman that flagburning does constitute protected speech. So that argument falls. Again, the previous quote by John Stuart Mill best refutes your ".001%" argument.


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yes it should be against the law. America love it or leave it. if you dont like it here then do the mature thing and move somewhere else.


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Quote from sourbubblegum at 3:33 PM on December 31, 2002 :
yes it should be against the law. America love it or leave it. if you dont like it here then do the mature thing and move somewhere else.



what else should be against the law?  i love america and that is why it should continue to be legal.  try reading the constitution, 1st amendment, freedom of speech, maybe you should leave since you feel that going against our nations constitution is ok.


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how is it a freedom of speech? your not even talking or saying anything. your burning the flag that is not speech. What is the point in burning the flag showing everyone how much you hate the country when you can just get up and leave and move somewhere else.


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Quote from sourbubblegum at 4:06 PM on December 31, 2002 :
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how is it a freedom of speech? your not even talking or saying anything. your burning the flag that is not speech. What is the point in burning the flag showing everyone how much you hate the country when you can just get up and leave and move somewhere else.



you are very dense arent you?  burning the flag is a form of speech through action.  it show your dislike with something with the government.

plus two, the first amendment is there to protect unpopular speech.  or do you feel, like fallingupwards, the our constitution is outdated?

as in my sig,  "i love my country, but fear my government."


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if you are going to do something that disrespectful to your country then you dont deserve to live there.


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Quote from sourbubblegum at 4:16 PM on December 31, 2002 :
if you are going to do something that disrespectful to your country then you dont deserve to live there.



why is it disrespectful to the country?  to the government yes, to the coutry, no.  plus how free would this country be if people were kicked out for excersizing their right?


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That's got to be the most retarded thing I have ever heard. The most disrespectful thing you can do to our country is try and take away our most cherished freedom. The freedom to express yourself in an unpopular manner is one of those freedoms. So bubblegum, are you going to leave now? Perhaps you should read JS Mill's "On Liberty" before you start talking about how disrespectful speech should be banned.


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It is not a freedom of speech. it is hate. If you have something to say against the government you can get up and make a proper speech! im sure people will respect your opinion more!


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Quote from sourbubblegum at 4:35 PM on December 31, 2002 :
It is not a freedom of speech. it is hate. If you have something to say against the government you can get up and make a proper speech! im sure people will respect your opinion more!



ok, i was wrong, you are very, VERY dense.  it doesnt matter if you like it or not, it is a form of speech that is protected under the first amendment of the constitution.


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Dont call me dense because my opinion differs from yours. the ammendments are screwed up anyways. you can kill someone if they were attacking you and you dont get arrested for murder. There are exceptions to many of the amendments. why not the first one?


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i am not calling you dense because you have different opinions, you are not seeing the truth that is laid out infront of you.  flag burning is a form of speech, there is no way to debate that.  speech is a protected right.  and if you think the amendments are screwed up, especially for protecting yourself, you are denying you right as an american and i suggest you leave this country.  


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I have respect for my country. There are other ways to espress your opinions then burning the flag. you can make a speech or go on strike or something to protest agaisnt the government.


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Quote from sourbubblegum at 5:25 PM on December 31, 2002 :
I have respect for my country. There are other ways to espress your opinions then burning the flag. you can make a speech or go on strike or something to protest agaisnt the government.



I am sorry but that is so PC.  I have read your post and they form more of an emotional plea rather than a sustained arguement.  You were called "dense".  Yes that was an insult.  But so is burning the flag.  It is the ultimate insult that an american can do.  Both of which is a form a communication and speech.

In a competition of ideas, there will many insults and lots of stupidity.  The Constitution or the world does not owe it to you to protect you from stupidity and insults.
 


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I think that someone that burns the American flag doesnt deserve to live there. It doesnt matter if it is a freedom of speech. I dont even have freedom of speech and i live in america because if i told one of my teachers to @$^# off  i would get expeled from school. and that is freedom of speech also.


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your example is obscenity, which isn't protected speech (to be contrasted from flag burning, which has been ruled to be protected).
I hate you. Can I be prosecuted for saying those 3 words? No. I hate America. How about those? still no. Hate speech is STILL free speech. Its just free speech you disagree with. There is no prohibition on hate speech, or immature speech, or disagreeable speech, and their shouldn't be. If we make it so all ideas have to be expressed maturely, half of congress and all of talk radio would be thrown in prison.
They don't deserve to live here? Who gave you the power to make that decision? If ANYONE doesn't deserve to live here, it is someone who thinks rights should only be applied to the majority. And that is what you are advocating.


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No i think your missing the point. If you hate the country so much and burn the flag then you dont desrve to live there and obviously DONT WANT to live there. so i think that anyone who burns the flag should not be allowed into the country. it is not taking away our freedom of speech. there are many freedoms we have but there are exceptions to them.


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Quote from sourbubblegum at 5:35 PM on January 1, 2003 :
No i think your missing the point. If you hate the country so much and burn the flag then you dont desrve to live there and obviously DONT WANT to live there. so i think that anyone who burns the flag should not be allowed into the country. it is not taking away our freedom of speech. there are many freedoms we have but there are exceptions to them.


its not taking away our freedom huh?  then what is it?  i think you are the one missing the point.  flag burning is protected under the constitution, thats it.  i feel that people like you should leave this country , cause obviosly you dont respect the basis on which this country was founded.




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You don't necessarily want to leave America if you burn the flag. Maybe you hate what the flag stands for now, but love the country and want it to change. If they wanted to leave then they would leave. The fact that they are staying means they want to stay, that they are trying to send a message for their country to change.


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that is exactly how i feel


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The flag isnt just a piece of cloth its a symbol of our country and its people. It is already against the law. It should remain that way.


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Quote from sourbubblegum at 08:28 AM on January 2, 2003 :
The flag isnt just a piece of cloth its a symbol of our country and its people. It is already against the law. It should remain that way.



once again you are wrong, it is not against the law, read Texas v. Johnson.  and if any states pass a law saying it is against the law, then that law would be shot down due to being unconstitutional.  maybe you should try checking the facts first.


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Unconstitutional or not it is still wrong and should be agaisnt the law. i dont care if it takes away freedom of speech. Only a moron would burn the flag and doesnt deserve to be an American. those kind of people make me sick.


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i am very glad you are up for losing freedom.  and you say people that exercise their freedom should be thrown out.  have you ever read the Constitution?  do you even care what it says?  if you feel that freedom of speech is wrong, which obviously you do, then you can kiss this little site goodbye.


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No, i never said that. i just think burning the flag isnt acceptable when there are other ways you can protest. If you want to see something change then you should do it in a different way. martin Luther king never burned the american flag he made a speech and his opinions were heard. =)




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Quote from sourbubblegum at 6:43 PM on January 2, 2003 :
No, i never said that. i just think burning the flag isnt acceptable when there are other ways you can protest. If you want to see something change then you should do it in a different way. martin Luther king never burned the american flag he made a speech and his opinions were heard. =)




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I don't like to see an American flag burned.  I quite frankly think it is political sucide and stupid.  

Again I read your quote and it is classic PC.

Let me paraprase here at the risk of putting my foot in my mouth:

"Don't burn the flag because it might hurt someone's feelings.  Do something that is less offensive to get your point across."

Again in a free market of ideas.  The best ideas will survive.  The stupid ideas will expose themselves.  Sometimes the truth will be so offensive to people that they would rather keep being wrong.

I sincerly hope you don't think I am personally singled you out for attack.  If I have dis-respected you I am truely sorry.  If I have offended you, then...?

(Edited by kelvin90703 1/2/2003 at 7:16 PM).
 


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Quote from sourbubblegum at 6:43 PM on January 2, 2003 :
No, i never said that. i just think burning the flag isnt acceptable when there are other ways you can protest. If you want to see something change then you should do it in a different way. martin Luther king never burned the american flag he made a speech and his opinions were heard. =)




if you say that burning the american flag should be illegal, then yes you are saying that you dont care for your freedom.  

and i never said burning the flag is the best way to get your point across.  but it deffently gets attention.  but to make that illegal requires losing all freedom of speech.  



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The day my govenment outlaws the burning of the flag is the day that I burn one myself. I may be burning the cloth that is the symbol of my country, but my government will be pissing on the freedoms that we deserve. Burning a flag is not showing disrepect for a country, it is a display that someone else - the government - is disrespecing the country and its people.
 


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Then it shouldnt be illegal but that doesnt make it right.

Peace

(Edited by sourbubblegum 1/3/2003 at 12:06 PM).


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Quote from sourbubblegum at 12:05 PM on January 3, 2003 :
Then it shouldnt be illegal but that doesnt make it right.

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(Edited by sourbubblegum 1/3/2003 at 12:06 PM).


thank you for finally seeing where you where mistakin.  you dont have to like it, thats the beuty of freedom of speech, it is there to protect the speech you dont like.  or why else would it have to be protected.



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bingo. Its wrong and protected.
to quote Voltaire:
"I disagree with what you say, and will fight to the death to defend your right to say it."


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Well i dont see why if these kind of freedoms of speech are protected like burning the american flag then other rights of speech arent. Why cant I cuss out anyone at my school and not get in trouble? Why do some schools have uniforms thats also freedom of expression. i dont know im confused.


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Uniforms I disagree with utterly. Cussing someone out in school (i.e. "obscene" speech) is not protected under the first amendment, the legal reasoning being that the "expression" conveyed is such slight value (as opposed to flag burning, which does have value as political expression) that it doesnt get protection. In terms of schools specifically, it also holds that cussing out disrupts the educational environment, and thus is not protected either. While the legal reasoning is, I admit, abit shaky (at least my understanding of it), thats the distinction that has been made.


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The flag represents the country. you say you love your country but you want to burn the thing that represents the foundation of our coumtry. Everyday in  school we say the pledge of Allegience to the AMERICAN flag, not to the govt. flag. i'm  not sayingt its the best way to deal with flag burners by making it illegal.
Flag burning insults me as an American, it should youto.


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apparently we have different ideas on what "represents" the country. You feel it is a piece of cloth. I believe it is the sacred rights that the constitution protects and defends.

Oh and for the record I DON'T say the pledge precisely b/c I don't give my alliegence to cloth, but rather to principles.

Rights burning insults me as an American, and it should you too.


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i agree with dsadevil, i never have and never will say the pledge of alligence.  even if i never burn a flag, i will fight to keep the right too.


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That "piece of cloth" is representing the blood of others who fought for this country. i think if your burning that "piece of cloth" your disrespecting all those lives.


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there are many vets that feel burning the flag is one of the most important rights, and that they were not fighting for the flag, but the rights that it symbolizes, but the flag itself isnt sacred.


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once again (to echo my above point and Maynard's), is America represented by cloth or by principles? By elevating colored material over the rights and privledges those veterans died for it is you who are disrespecting them, not us.


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I am a citizen of the United States of America. I have burned an American flag. I did not do it to disrespect the people of this country. I did not do it do disrespect those who have died in wars (whether just, or unjust). I did it out of anger and disgust towards government and business. I did it for the Indians who were murdered, raped, robbed, and pushed off their lands in the name of America. I did for the Africans who were kidknapped, enslaved, abused, and discrinated against(to this very day) in the name of America. I did it for the exploted worker, the second-class woman, the imprisoned acitvist, and everyone else oppressed in the name of America. Those who commited those crimes against humanity are the ones guilty of pissing on the American flag. I only burned it as proper burial to a flag drenched in urine by criminals within the law of land.
 


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I am a citizen of the United States of America. I have burned an American flag. I did not do it to disrespect the people of this country. I did not do it do disrespect those who have died in wars (whether just, or unjust). I did it out of anger and disgust towards government and business. I did it for the Indians who were murdered, raped, robbed, and pushed off their lands in the name of America. I did for the Africans who were kidknapped, enslaved, abused, and discrinated against(to this very day) in the name of America. I did it for the exploted worker, the second-class woman, the imprisoned acitvist, and everyone else oppressed in the name of America. Those who commited those crimes against humanity are the ones guilty of pissing on the American flag. I only burned it as proper burial to a flag drenched in urine by criminals within the law of land.



Whew!  I am sure your cause is just.  I am also sure you didn't make very many friends.  Do you realize by burning that flag you made enemies where you did not have them before?  I agree you had full right to do so.  But what did it get you?

(Edited by kelvin90703 1/18/2003 at 01:54 AM).
 


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Quote from kelvin90703 at 01:51 AM on January 18, 2003 :

Whew!  I am sure your cause is just.  I am also sure you didn't make very many friends.  Do you realize by burning that flag you made enemies where you did not have them before?  I agree you had full right to do so.  But what did it get you?

(Edited by kelvin90703 1/18/2003 at 01:54 AM).


The flag burning ceremony was privately held amonst friends.


 


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The American flag is not a symbol of the people who died for it, it is a symbol of what this country is about; freedom.  And when you take away the very thing that the flag was built upon than you are doing far worse than burning a flag, youre turning your back on what the flag means.


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yall know that the proper way to discard of an old flag is to burn it?


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Posts: 270 | Posted: 10:05 AM on January 24, 2003 | IP
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Why would someone who lives in America - who enjoys freedom - want to burn a symbol of our country?  It's like peeing in your own bed.  You can do it because it's yours, but why would you want to do it?

(Edited by Phishchic 4/1/2003 at 11:17 PM).
 


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Technically, burning the flag is both legal and illegal.  Burning the flag is ONLY legal when it is done so as part of a protest where speeches are given, hence the reason for it being under the First Amendment: Freedom of Speech.  The action in itself is not legal justification.  Back in the day, wearing Vietnam armbands was a legal form of protest, however, burning draft cards under any circumstances was not legal because it desecrated property of the US government.  Freedom of Speech has many loop holes and twists to it.  It is not legal to use obscenities or profanity not expressing an idea in public domain, but it is legal to do so while expressing an idea.  In 1971, the Cohen vs. California case deemed it okay to display "F--- the draft" on shirts, signs, etc. because it expressed an idea.  So yeah, back to the topic at hand... it's both legal and illegal.
 


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I don't think we should be burning the same thing we place over fallen soldiers coffins.  There are plenty of other ways to go about protesting.  You can picket or write your Senator or something.  And every time you burn a flag you're stepping on all those fallen soldiers and what they died for.
 


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why must you all be so dumb and un patriotic whoever said to burn the flag will burn in the depths of hell I am sure of this[b][i][u]
 


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Flag burning is wrong to do in our country so if you want to burn the U.S. flag go to Candida or Mexico. If you think about it why would you burn you own flag just for fun. One second you burn you flag for fun, the next second your being chased down the block by pratriotic maniacs. Only burn it if you need to, for example if you a bum and its the only thing you can burn to stay warm then go ahead, but dont do it in our country for the fun of it.


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