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How many of you have ever wondered what it would be like to consider removing not only guns but the things you might enjoy..

Dear Gun Control Activist

Dear Anti-Gun Activist,

Have you ever asked yourself why you are truly opposed to private gun ownership? You may say that your fight against guns is motivated from a desire to make America safer, maybe you feel guns are the cause of violence and every gun owner sooner or later will use his/her gun to commit a violent act. Maybe you feel there is no need for guns, and that the cost to society out weighs giving a few sportsmen something to do on the weekend? Maybe you believe that guns used for self-protection is just a myth supported by the NRA, and other pro-gun activists. Whatever you claim your reason to be, I believe that most of you care less about saving lives, and preventing injury, than you do about gun restrictions. Not true you say. What if I told you there was something else in America that was just as dangerous as guns? The only use for this item is recreational; no one claims it has a useful purpose. What if I told you that any adult could purchase this item, regardless of past acts, and a mandatory background check is not required? The cost for this item is much less than any gun, and if you are a typical American you probably have this item in your home. Would you support tighter regulations, limited access, waiting periods, and licensing, for this item?

If your anti-gun motivation comes from what you believe guns cause, and not the guns themselves then logically you should be opposed to anything that causes even more pain and suffering than guns. In fact one could insinuate that anything causing more death than guns should be fought against with more zeal than guns.

Have I tweaked your curiosity yet? Are you ready to fight to make America safer for everyone, are you ready for your new cause? The complete ban of Alcohol! You got it, no more beers with the buddies, no more wine to compliment the perfect dinner, no more champagne on anniversaries, and no more stiff drinks to drown your sorrows. Let's make America dry!

No way! Is your response? Let me attempt to guess some of your reasons.

First, it's been tried before and didn't work. Just because a huge black market was created with the alcohol ban, and many normally law abiding citizens stepped outside the law to quench their thirst, does not mean a gun ban would cause the same problems. A gun ban would not cause a black market for firearms; criminals would not find ways to gain possession of a gun. Everyone knows you can't trust history, because we are much smarter today, and we would fix the problems that plagued the past.

Another excuse you may use is that it is unfair to the millions of Americans who choose to consume alcoholic beverages responsibility. But you've told me that what is truly important is saving lives and preventing injury so that must outweigh the personal rights of all responsible American Citizens. So please tell me why it would be fair to take away the guns of law abiding Americans. It does not seem to matter that the majority of gun owners are responsible and have never committed any crime, yet alone, a crime with their gun. Maybe your right, those who choose to consume alcohol are more important, more responsible, more intelligent, than gun owners and therefore and can be trusted, while gun owners can't.

Let me guess, you don't want to ban alcohol because studies show small portions of alcohol may be good for you. You're right again; the minor health benefits that come from limited alcohol consumption far outweigh the thousands of lives lost to alcohol. But wait a minute; guns are used everyday in America to prevent brutal assaults. The government's own numbers show that resistance with a gun makes a victim less likely to be harmed than resistance without a gun, or complying with the attacker. With alcohol any small health benefit to an individual is more import than the lives that could be saved if it were banned, so why does this argument not apply to guns?

About now you probably think I've completely lost it. Everyone knows that alcohol doesn't kill, and no one wants alcohol banned. Look at the following numbers.

Traffic deaths that were alcohol related in 1998 15,935 (http://www.madd.org)

Murders by guns in the US for 1998 9,143 (1998 Uniform Crime Report)

You read the number right, alcohol killed nearly 7,000 more people in the United States then all the gun-toting murderers.
What about the cost to society, and I'm referring to dollars.

Alcohol-related crashes cost society $45 billion, yet this conservative estimate does not include pain, suffering and lost quality of life. These indirect costs raise the alcohol-related crash figure to a staggering $116 billion in 1993. (Miller et al, 1996b)

Firearms injury costs upwards of $4.0 billion annually, with $19.0 billion in additional indirect costs, such as lost potential earnings. (American College of Physicians, 1998)

Alcohol related injuries cost 10 fold more than gun related injuries. Alcohol kills thousands of people every year, and costs billions, but where is the public uproar, where is the media coverage, why is it not a political tool used to gain election? Because most Americans are not willing give up their rights due to the actions of others, and since most Americans consume alcohol in some form or another, they are not willing to give up that right, because some people just can't control themselves when drinking.
Well there you have it, a new and better cause that will save lives and prevent injury. I could name many other similarities between guns and alcohol but I'll stop here. You can now drop your anti-gun placard and jump on the anti-alcohol wagon. If you're true motive is save people from injury and death then you should start campaigning for a dry America with as much zeal and effort that you put forth in your fight for gun restrictions. Anything less would be hypocritical.

What's that? You're not going to fight for a ban on alcohol. Oh I see you like your occasionally beer or glass of wine. You don't want to fight for an unpopular cause that will gain little popular support, and you know the media will be against you. I guess these are valid reasons, but are they more valuable than the lives you'd be saving? Let's be honest, for whatever reason you hate guns, you don't own a gun, you don't enjoy gun sports, and want guns banned. If your true purpose were to make society safer you'd already be fighting for the abolishment of alcohol. But you just aren't willing to fight against a freedom that you enjoy (i.e. no more cold ones), but taking a freedom from others is fine, so long as it does not affect you.

I doubt I have converted anyone, and I guess there is little I can do, so sit back and enjoy that relaxing drink, after all no one is trying to take it away.

Sincerely,
Clint Cook

Note from the author:

My intent with this article is not to promote a second prohibition of alcohol in the United States. Nor do I wish to offend anyone. While I have chosen not to consume alcohol, I have no problems with others who choose to drink. Any adult who chooses to drink responsibly is fine with me. Just because I do not choose to exercise this freedom, does not give me the right to take that same privilege from another. I feel the same about guns. Just because an individual chooses not to own a gun, it does not give that individual the right to take away my own personal freedom of gun ownership.

I understand that many people abuse the right of gun ownership and they should be punished. Many people abuse the right to consume alcohol, with equally deadly results, and these people should be punished. The remaining millions of responsible Americans should not have their rights infringed on, simply because someone did not show proper discipline when exercising the same right. They only thing I ask is that before you fight to take away any freedom that you carefully look at both sides of the issue, and ask yourself, if the shoe was on the other foot would you still believe in your cause.




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Posts: 58 | Posted: 3:56 PM on March 21, 2007 | IP
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I second the amendment.  Let's ban alcohol.


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Posts: 1287 | Posted: 6:47 PM on March 21, 2007 | IP
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Prohibition has already failed and badly...not again.


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Posts: 58 | Posted: 7:08 PM on March 21, 2007 | IP
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Why?  You're argument was perfectly logical.  I wholeheartedly agree with you.


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Posts: 1287 | Posted: 10:49 PM on March 21, 2007 | IP
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so you once said that more people died by a gun being used than by by people not using a gun right?

well it would appear that you are wrong since cars and alcohol are not guns and many more people died than with gun use...

And i suppose swimmimg pool accidents or droewnings do not fall into the equation, or how about different ways that people kill others... all with non guns..

get real


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Posts: 58 | Posted: 10:49 AM on March 22, 2007 | IP
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Actually, I've never stated that.


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Posts: 1287 | Posted: 5:32 PM on March 22, 2007 | IP
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okay what ever then... if you say so


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Posts: 58 | Posted: 6:33 PM on March 22, 2007 | IP
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Feel free to show where.


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Posts: 1287 | Posted: 10:15 PM on March 22, 2007 | IP
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Can you stop quoting the bible!!!
Not everyone like me understands it...

Comparing alcohol prohibition and gun prohibition is like comparing banning suicide and skydiving. Has anyone held up a gun shop with a beer bottle?

I live in Australia where gun ownership is severely restricted. The rate of gun death per head of population is 10% that in the U.S.
I don't have to worry if someone is going to bust into my house and shoot me for my television.
If someone breaks into my house and I don't pull a gun... chances are they aren't going to shoot me. I can't imagine what it would be like waking at 3am trying in the dark to shoot straight with gummy eyes and half awake.In the U.S self defence for this reason is the biggest joke.
Guns as a phallic symbol are to aid those men with size or erectile issues.
America... vote for the Lady or the Black guy and listen to them... Hopefully they won't be fools and fall for the NRA


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Posts: 8 | Posted: 05:38 AM on February 8, 2008 | IP
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Quote from stuntman-aus at 05:38 AM on February 8, 2008 :
Can you stop quoting the bible!!!
Not everyone like me understands it...

Comparing alcohol prohibition and gun prohibition is like comparing banning suicide and skydiving. Has anyone held up a gun shop with a beer bottle?


Not at all. That’s a dishonest analogy.  Since we are talking about prohibiting whats in the bottle not the bottle it’s self. They have while drunk or stoned. I read a study a few years back that concluded that 70% of the homicides in the US alcohol and or drugs were involved in one way or another.  

Quote from stuntman-aus at 05:38 AM on February 8, 2008 :I live in Australia where gun ownership is severely restricted. The rate of gun death per head of population is 10% that in the U.S.


This could be true I have been unable to find the comparison. Even though this may be true you are making a dishonest and unfair comparison between two countries that are radically different from each other pertaining to crime. The US has many unique crime problems that Australia doesn’t have. Like the US has a porous border with a corrupt and violent third world country. It has been determined that as much as 30+% of homicides in the US are committed by illegal aliens. We also have thousands of violent gangs, which Australia doesn’t have like MS-13, Hells Angles, Mongols, Bloods, Crypts, Arian Brotherhood and more. These gangs use murder as a standard practice of doing business. The US also has hundreds of more large cities than Australia has. Crime is much higher in large cities as compared to rural areas.

Quote from stuntman-aus at 05:38 AM on February 8, 2008 :I don't have to worry if someone is going to bust into my house and shoot me for my television.


True but does it really make a difference whether they use a gun or a baseball bat to kill you? In my determination you’re just as dead. Also ponder this in the US when a gun control law takes hold in a state here there is between a 2 to 3 hundred % increase in crime including violent crime. So you are 3 times more likely to be a victim of crime.  

Quote from stuntman-aus at 05:38 AM on February 8, 2008 :If someone breaks into my house and I don't pull a gun... chances are they aren't going to shoot me. I can't imagine what it would be like waking at 3am trying in the dark to shoot straight with gummy eyes and half awake.In the U.S self defence for this reason is the biggest joke.


Lets say that they decided to kill because they are high, you have no other recourse but to die. At the least if you have a gun you will be at least evenly matched if not have the upper hand. In the US a gun is used approximately between 1.5 to 3 million times a year for protection by a law-abiding citizen. The law-abiding citizen only kills approximately 300 and wounds apx. 7,000 perpetrators a year. What does this tell you? The odds of you actually having to shoot them in this type of situation that you haven’t caused is between  .16 to .35 of a % chance that you will actually have to shoot someone. This means just you being armed and by either telling the criminal you are armed or the cocking the of or showing the gun is enough to make the criminal flee.    


Quote from stuntman-aus at 05:38 AM on February 8, 2008 :Guns as a phallic symbol are to aid those men with size or erectile issues.


Well Sigmund Freud said this about guns “ A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity”. Wasn’t he from Australia?  






(Edited by TRIGGER 2/9/2008 at 4:30 PM).


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Posts: 127 | Posted: 4:29 PM on February 9, 2008 | IP
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Hey, stuntman-aus, it seems trigger has misunderstood you just as I have been many times before. I was having fun explaining myself at first, but then I realized that trigger intends to frustrate with confusion and contradiction, and this is how he is programmed (educated) to communicate.

Trigger reads and writes like the typical american high school student: Their conviction is a matter-of-fact; their common sense is a matter of getting the facts straight. Contemporary self-expression, in the U.S., has become a precarious act of balancing on the head.

I hope you live in Australia, because the U.S.A. may soon live up to the title of 'hell on earth'.

The U.S.A. was designed to offer the highest standard of living (frivolous luxury) to its' slaves (citizens) then any other nation historically, in order to create an animal contented by the illusion of liberty/free-will. Americans have been educated to consider freedom a privileged status (synonymous with liberty) so that orders may be established to keep freedom, and by intentional design of capitalism, the effort to keep order is exploited so that those in the positions of influence over social order reap the benefit of ease from the disease they sew; a pretty-clever trick. The willing is almost exhausted, but not for a few more decades shall the willing be free. Until then, People of the world, like you, might do best to stay as far away as possible so that you don’t get hurt. There will likely be war, as it is obvious the social orders have been given to create war. Those that would have war have managed to influence the majority (consensus) will, but are luckily in the minority in terms of numbers. There are still a few conscious kids in america, though many have left, and changes are already being made… let us hope the changes happen in time to prevent war. For now, as sad as this may sound, it is only reasonable to expect more fools then fewer will have audience in america.

The free people living on the land -some call- america, do not kill for america; do not kill for god or satan; do not buy or sell Mother Nature’s creations; do not buy or sell ideas; consume the spoils of excess; care for the gardens; walk; give, receive, feel freely, and this is considered abnormal, even criminal, by model americans.

People are waking up, as they always have, for wonder of being alive. The increase of desperation and fear perpetuated by social order is indicative of the overall sense that something is soon to give, american social structure is about to fail, and by the people living by freedom-of-way, shall be granted freedom to the children of a new age.



(Edited by forfunt1 2/14/2008 at 11:26 PM).


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Posts: 163 | Posted: 7:57 PM on February 13, 2008 | IP
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forfunt1:
You stated that free people living on the land do not walk or feel freely.
Could you explain what you mean by that?
 


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What? Where? huh...


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The free people living on the land -some call- america, do not kill for america; do not kill for god or satan; do not buy or sell Mother Nature’s creations; do not buy or sell ideas; consume the spoils of excess; care for the gardens; walk; give, receive, feel freely, and this is considered abnormal, even criminal, by model americans.


I assumed that you meant that you do not consume the spoils of excess, which would also indicate grammatically the same association of not caring for gardens, not walking, not giving, not receiving and not feeling freely. Alternatively you would have said that free people consume the spoils of excess, which I would be equally confused as to what you meant.  

(Edited by Stunt_Pirate 2/14/2008 at 8:50 PM).
 


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Oh, I see. LOL


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Posts: 163 | Posted: 9:18 PM on February 14, 2008 | IP
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Spoils of excess are simply the wastes and byproducts of social gluttony. By eating food that is discarded as trash by capitalist markets, and finding use for clothes or furniture that fall out of fashion and into the trash, free people work to lesson the burden of slaves (citizens) on the real world.  

(Edited by forfunt1 2/17/2008 at 6:53 PM).


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