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Oh my goodness.  You actually think that you could replace a tire with a steering wheel, but NOT replace a militia with the National Guard.  Is that really the correlation that is crossing your mind?  If I say that CDs have replaced 8-tracks and cassette tapes you must think that I REALLY mean that everyone turned in their old tapes and 8 tracks and someone gave them brand new CDs.  I feel for you.  As for my sources, the following is from the CDC regarding a study of the 26 largest (income and population) countries in the world....

A firearm was reported to have been involved in the deaths of 1107 children; 957 (86%) of those occurred in the United States. Of all firearm-related deaths, 55% were reported as homicides; 20%, as suicides; 22%, as unintentional; and 3%, as intention undetermined. The overall firearm-related death rate among U.S. children aged less than 15 years was nearly 12 times higher than among children in the other 25 countries combined (1.66 compared with 0.14) (Table_1). The firearm-related homicide rate in the United States was nearly 16 times higher than that in all of the other countries combined (0.94 compared with 0.06); the firearm-related suicide rate was nearly 11 times higher (0.32 compared with 0.03); and the unintentional firearm-related death rate was nine times higher (0.36 compared with 0.04). For all countries, males accounted for most of the firearm-related homicides (67%), firearm-related suicides (77%), and unintentional firearm-related deaths (89%). The nonfirearm-related homicide rate in the United States was nearly four times the rate in all of the other countries (1.63 compared with 0.45), and nonfirearm-related suicide rates were similar in the United States and in all of the other countries combined (0.23 compared with 0.24).

Ok, feel free to start twisting.


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"When a tire blows on my car I don’t buy a steering wheel,"(me)

"You actually think that you could replace a tire with a steering wheel,"(EMyers)

WOW that was intelligent, and heres another quote "I feel for you." realy I do.

And those statistics, basically you said guns kill people.  Good job.  Now look at the statistics that compare total violence to violence by guns, you might be surprised.

(Edited by basic 6/16/2006 at 01:26 AM).
 


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Wow, you must've gotten at least a D in Reading Comprehension.  Congrats on passing the class.  Anyone with at least an iota of logic can easily see my point.  You imply that by me saying that the National Guard has replaced the militia (definition from the dictionary, by the way, you can find it at your local library) that I must be trying to say that the two are the exact same thing (hence your wheel/wheel comment) when obviously many things are replaced with things that are NOT the exact same (and yet they are still replaced by them).  I don't drive a horse and buggy, it has been EFFECTIVELY replaced by automobiles (I hope this concept is not too difficult to grasp for you).  If you can not get this idea through your head, then there is no point continuing this conversation with you.

As for my statistics I did not say anything.  It was a direct quote from the CDC report.  If you have issues with their findings you should take it up with them.  I do give you credit for not denying them (just ignoring them).


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Quote from EMyers at 2:49 PM on June 9, 2006 :
Actually, the constitution guarantees us the right to keep and bear arms (not own) in order to preserve the WELL REGULATED militia (i.e. National Guard).  If you belong to the National Guard, I am sure that they will provide firearms for your duties.  While performing those duties you will be allowed to keep and bear the arm provided to you.  The point is, any law makes any breaker of said law a criminal.  People say that if your make a certain law then only the people who break it will be breaking it.  Well, duh.  Alcohol is prohibited for those under 21.  Well gee, that just means people under 21 who DON'T break the law won't have beer.  How does the law stop them?  It doesn't.  Using that line of logic then we should just throw out all laws.  Then no one will be a criminal.  Next time someone wants to bring up the second amendment to protect their right to own weapons, please remember to include the INTENT (i.e. a WELL REGULATED MILITIA) into your argument.  Anything else is just wasting server space.


You sir also need to have a definitin to go with that statement well (regulated malita). The guard as well as the US military are standing armys and forbidden from being in the malita.


" I ask, Sir, What is a Malita? It is the whole people, except for a few public officals. " George Mason

" It is dangerous to the liberties of the people to have an army stationed among them over which they have no control...( This includes the National Guard) The Malita is composed of free citizens. ( anyone in the military or guard is not a free citizen, They are Govenment property) There is therefor no danger of their power to the destruction of their own rights, or suffering others to invade them"
Samual Addams

" Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...Disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes... Such laws make things worse for the assualted and better for the assailants; They serve rather to encourage than prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man."
Thomas Jefferson.

Most people don't under stand that the right to keep and bear arms has nothing to do with hunting, it has a little to do with self defense, and to a greater extent national defence, its major reason is so the poeple have the means to revolt against our own government should it become corrupt, tyranical, or threaten our liberty.  






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Right.  So if the United States with the largest advanced military in the world were suddenly to go all tyrannical on us, you and the NRA are going to take it back from them.  Good thing I have that SAM in my backyard.  Oh wait, no I don't.


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Quote from EMyers at 07:22 AM on June 17, 2006 :
Right.  So if the United States with the largest advanced military in the world were suddenly to go all tyrannical on us, you and the NRA are going to take it back from them.  Good thing I have that SAM in my backyard.  Oh wait, no I don't.


Remember only 2% of gun owners are in the NRA. Yep thats how it works. I would love to see the face of the general when you tell him that he is going to occupy a country of 300 million and the only thing he has to worry about is 80 million gun owners. He'll tell you you are out of yor mind. Remember that we are mixed in with the public so all the hi tec. weapons are almost usless. Also his force is under 2 mill. There was a question asked of our military (would you turn your gun's on the American public if ordered 75 % said they would quit the military so you are looking at around 500'000 that would still be in the military that means that everyone left would have to kill 160 people apiece to win and that is if the 220 mill left doesn't join the cause. End game our freedom is maintained.


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Thank you trigger I was waiting for an intelligent post before I commented again.

7 basic reasons for guns

1. Citizens should not fear their government; the government should fear their citizens.

2. Our government relies on a system of checks and balances.  Guns keep the government in check.

3. Gun do not cause violence, people cause violence.

4. A person has the right to protect themselves with any and all means necessary.

5. Our forefathers saw this so important that it is the SECOND amendment.

6. The revolutionary war would not have succeeded without guns in the hands of the revolutionaries.

7. During the revolutionary war we succeeded in repelling the British military; which was the largest advanced military in the world of their time.

 


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Looks like you are still waiting.


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I am now.
 


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So, you are basically agreeing with a guy who says (in a nutshell) that whoever has the most guns is right.  Might makes right.  And here I thought we were an intelligent country.  Thank you for pointing out the error of my ways.


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Quote from EMyers at 4:37 PM on June 19, 2006 :
So, you are basically agreeing with a guy who says (in a nutshell) that whoever has the most guns is right.  Might makes right.  And here I thought we were an intelligent country.  Thank you for pointing out the error of my ways.


Sir if you are so concerned about human life then you would agree with us. Who are the largest killers on the planet? "The state" Adolf Hitler 8,000,000, Stalen 40,000,000, Mao 80,000,000 and this was all in one century. At the rate that gun related homicides are happening in the US it would take 10,000 years to do the same damage that MAO did in his reign, remember christ died 2,000 years ago. This make's the paultry amount that is killed by crimminals pale  in comparison. And with killers like the state don't you think we have a right to protect our selves? One other thing you have a distorted view of gun owners, think about this law abiding gun owners are 12 times less likley to comit a crime than nongun owners. Proof is that 1 out of every 4 people you walk past every day is a gun owner, every place you go 1 out of 4 is a gun owner, over your entire life 1 out of every 4 people is a gun owner. If what you beleave is true you would not be able to turn a corner any where with out  seeing a gun fight.        


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Quote from EMyers at 4:37 PM on June 19, 2006 :
So, you are basically agreeing with a guy who says (in a nutshell) that whoever has the most guns is right.  


Sorry I for got to adress this. If what you say is true we would not be having this discussion. Gun control would be a thing of the past, Remember guns are the last resort. I wold rather die a free man than live a life time as a slave.  




(Edited by TRIGGER 6/19/2006 at 5:56 PM).


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"So, you are basically agreeing with a guy who says (in a nutshell) that whoever has the most guns is right.  Might makes right.  And here I thought we were an intelligent country.  Thank you for pointing out the error of my ways."

If that is the concept that you are getting from trigger then I understand how you lack the ability to comprehend the importance of guns.  You are terribly informed and ignorant, trying to find a scapegoat for all of America problems with violence.  And here I thought that you were an intelligent person.  Thank you for pointing out the error of my ways.
 


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7 basic reasons for guns

1. Citizens should not fear their government; the government should fear their citizens.

Why should a democracy fear their citizens (who are in charge)?

2. Our government relies on a system of checks and balances.  Guns keep the government in check.

How so?

3. Gun do not cause violence, people cause violence.

People with guns cause greater violence than people with whiffle ball bats.

4. A person has the right to protect themselves with any and all means necessary.

True.  How many guns are used in self-defense verses aggression?

5. Our forefathers saw this so important that it is the SECOND amendment.

By that logic, freedom of the press is even more important.

6. The revolutionary war would not have succeeded without guns in the hands of the revolutionaries.

Yeah, the French navy had nothing to do with our victory.

7. During the revolutionary war we succeeded in repelling the British military; which was the largest advanced military in the world of their time.

Only after France, Spain and the Netherlands joined us (for their own reasons).  Three countries and thirteen colonies against one country.  Congratulations on your history lesson.  Go read a book.  


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Quote from EMyers at 11:43 AM on June 20, 2006 :
7 basic reasons for guns

1. Citizens should not fear their government; the government should fear their citizens.

Why should a democracy fear their citizens (who are in charge)?


If the democracy dosn't fear the citizens it could become a Tyriny. If they don't fear us why do they try to disarm us, (the law abiding gun owner) who is not the problem, the criminal is?
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2. Our government relies on a system of checks and balances.  Guns keep the government in check.

How so?

The government can't control an armed public 80 million strong. Even you should be able to understand that.


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3. Gun do not cause violence, people cause violence.

People with guns cause greater violence than people with whiffle ball bats.


How about regular bats? The state with guns causes greater violence than the public. 180 million killed by Goverments in the last century and counting.  
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4. A person has the right to protect themselves with any and all means necessary.

True.  How many guns are used in self-defense verses aggression?


Self defense 2.5 million, agression buy crimminals 8 thousand yearly. You need to take a course in math.
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5. Our forefathers saw this so important that it is the SECOND amendment.

By that logic, freedom of the press is even more important.


Quote George Washington, state of the union adress, first congress second session," The second amendment is second only to the constitution it's self as a whole. It is the peoples liberty teeth which makes all the others possable"
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6. The revolutionary war would not have succeeded without guns in the hands of the revolutionaries.

Yeah, the French navy had nothing to do with our victory.

The other countrys that joind us helped but the cotinental army and the malitas did all the heavy lifting.
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7. During the revolutionary war we succeeded in repelling the British military; which was the largest advanced military in the world of their time.

Only after France, Spain and the Netherlands joined us (for their own reasons).  Three countries and thirteen colonies against one country.  Congratulations on your history lesson.  Go read a book.   


Take a course in math, The US gun owners vers US military  160 to 1.

Guns don't kill people kill people. Person + knife can kill, person + bat can kill,   person + car can kill, person + ax can kill, person + sword can kill, person + rope can kill, person + chain saw can kill, person + box cutter can kill, person + air plane can kill, person + pipe can kill, person + fork can kill, person + pen can kill, person + bow & arrow can kill, person + hocky stick can kill, person + gun can kill,

What is common in all those deaths?   MAN  

Only man kills take away a method and the root of the problem exists MAN.

But only evil men kill with out provocation.

(Edited by TRIGGER 6/20/2006 at 8:15 PM).

(Edited by TRIGGER 6/20/2006 at 8:18 PM).


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If the democracy dosn't fear the citizens it could become a Tyriny. If they don't fear us why do they try to disarm us, (the law abiding gun owner) who is not the problem, the criminal is?

Actually, the US citizens push for more gun registration.  Aside from pay raises, how many bills do you think your local senator pushes BEFORE doing an indepth poll to determine whether or not the people who VOTE him into office will agree or disagree with him.  

The government can't control an armed public 80 million strong. Even you should be able to understand that

You actually believe that the President of the United States has NOT decided to make himself imperial emperor of the united states because he fears the average citizen on the street.  You really think we are only a democracy because citizens have access to guns?  The sixties weren't kind to you.

How about regular bats? The state with guns causes greater violence than the public. 180 million in the last century and counting.

I don't even understand this paragraph.  Which state are you talking about?

Self defense 2.5 million, agression buy crimminals 8 thousand yearly. You need to take a course in math.


So you are saying that 2.5 million people killed unarmed assailants last year?  And 8000 armed assailants killed unarmed citizens last year?  Is that the statistics you are quoting, because I can't find them anywhere.

Quote George Washington, state of the union adress, first congress second session," The second amendment is second only to the constitution it's self as a whole. It is the peoples liberty teeth which makes all the others possable"


Of course, without a militia (the colonies didn't have a standing army) they would never have been able to revolt against their government.  Wait, what was your point?

The other countrys that joind us helped but the cotinental army and the malitas did all the heavy lifting.

Right, even though Britain held almost every coastal city and we couldn't get any supplies, we surely would've won out without THREE other countries helping us.  Did you eat alot of paint chips as a child?  And what is a malita?



Take a course in math, The US gun owners vers US military  160 to 1.



That was random.  What in the world did that have to do with the point being questioned?  We were talking about the revolutionary war.  Perhaps you need to take a course in History.  Besides, your math stinks.  Nearly 2 million in the military.  160 to 1 means roughly 320 million US gun owners (318 since you are not including the military).  US population is around 295 million.  According to your stats every single person in the US (and some not born yet) currently own a gun.  How is rehab working for you?



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Actually, the US citizens push for more gun registration.  Aside from pay raises, how many bills do you think your local senator pushes BEFORE doing an indepth poll to determine whether or not the people who VOTE him into office will agree or disagree with him.

I am sorry where do you get your info? Actualy the public dosn't just a few do. As you said legslators don't pol or even listen to their constituents. In my state my legslators got calls on gun control issues 20 to 1 opposed to gun control issues and still voted for it. Remember what happned in 94 and 2000 even the gun control Dem's have distaced them selves from the issue.     



You actually believe that the President of the United States has NOT decided to make himself imperial emperor of the united states because he fears the average citizen on the street.  You really think we are only a democracy because citizens have access to guns?  The sixties weren't kind to you.


No we have a representive republic because of the consitution, we protect it by being armed. What was one of the first things the third reich did? Confiscate the opositions guns to insure it's surival. What don't you under stand about the folly of trusting the  governmet to do the right thing. Do you actualy beleave that the government has no coruption?    

I don't even understand this paragraph.  Which state are you talking about?


Sorry, the state is a loose term that denotes all governments. What is ment is that governments have over the 20th century murdered over 180 million people.


So you are saying that 2.5 million people killed unarmed assailants last year?  And 8000 armed assailants killed unarmed citizens last year?  Is that the statistics you are quoting, because I can't find them anywhere.


I am sure you don't think that every time a gun is used for protection that it results in a death? most of the time like 98% a shot isn't even fired. As you put it earlyer read a book specificaly  More Guns Less Crime by Prof. John R. Lott. This is a sinopsis of a county by county study done buy the prof.  

[Of course, without a militia (the colonies didn't have a standing army) they would never have been able to revolt against their government.  Wait, what was your point?


Yes the colinists did have an army it was the continental army. Definition of malita by the founding fathers
" I ask, Sir, What is a Malita? It is the whole people, except for a few public officals. " George Mason

" It is dangerous to the liberties of the people to have an army stationed among them over which they have no control...( This includes the National Guard) The Malita is composed of free citizens. ( anyone in the military or guard is not a free citizen, They are Govenment property) There is there fore no danger of their power to the destruction of their own rights, or suffering others to invade them"
Samual Addams



Right, even though Britain held almost every coastal city and we couldn't get any supplies, we surely would've won out without THREE other countries helping us.  Did you eat alot of paint chips as a child?  And what is a malita?


You can't control a country buy just holding the ports you have to occupy it.and most all needs were produced buy the states. I beleave that we would have still won with out help it just would have taken longer




That was random.  What in the world did that have to do with the point being questioned?  We were talking about the revolutionary war.  Perhaps you need to take a course in History.  Besides, your math stinks.  Nearly 2 million in the military.  160 to 1 means roughly 320 million US gun owners (318 since you are not including the military).  US population is around 295 million.  According to your stats every single person in the US (and some not born yet) currently own a gun.  How is rehab working for you?



Sorry in an earlier post I refered to a pol of the military that 75% would leave the military if ordered to turn it's guns on the american piblic I deducted that #.

One thing I would like to mention is in these debates I have tried to refrained from personal attacks. I am sorry if I havn't. I require the same from you. You will make no progress by bashing all it does is show that you have a weak argument  and can't debate on the issues.    



(Edited by TRIGGER 6/21/2006 at 6:41 PM).

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I am debating the issues.  I'm just highly surprised by some of your comments.  Especially those that seem to have absolutely nothing to do with the topic being discussed.  Or with reality.  Your comments about how guns keep our government in check and going off on a tangent about gun ownership when the previous debater and I were discussing the Revolutionary War was nothing short of perplexing.  I do, however, apologize for letting my penchant for sarcasm to cross into derogatory territory.


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Sorry I was distracted when I read the post originaly and took some of what you said out on context. I also thought that I was part of this since my name was in the posts.


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Quote from holsbeke at 9:08 PM on June 22, 2002 :
My Dad said about Sept. 11 "If all those pilots and flight attendants had guns it might have ended differently." I myself thought the same thing about the Jews in Nazi Germany. At least they would have had a chance.

You are very right. One of the first things Hitler did was to ban guns. With no guns he was able to do as he pleased. This goes for the liberals in America who are for gun control. They can’t have total power (Socialism) until the people are unable to fight back.


 


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Ditto....


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EMeyers, do you have anybody on your side?


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To be honest I'm still trying to figure out the whole socialism thing you guys keep bringing up...

Socialism -a theory or system of social organization that advocates the vesting of the ownership and control of the means of production and distribution, of capital, land, etc., in the community as a whole

So basically this means all businesses, land, etc. would be run by "the state" which is the entire nation as a whole.  What in the world does this have to do with gun ownership?  As with communism this usually doesn't work in practice, but the theory is nor more flawed than democracy (true democracy rarely works in practice either).  It's just a system of government.  Even a tyranny isn't necessarily a bad thing when it is run by a fair and equitable ruler, especially when compared to a corrupt and evil beureaucracy (and no, I am not referring to any particular government in this example).  

There are many things banned by many governments.  My daily routine would not change one iota if handguns were banned (and I've never once stated that I'm for a full ban on handguns).  If yours would (and you're not a police officer or soldier) I'd seriously reconsider your priorities.

Lastly, if no one else was on my side you guys wouldn't even be bothering to argue the point.  There wouldn't even be a forum on gun control here.  But I assume you knew that.


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Speaking of bad spelling EMyers, you might want to look over you post before posting too.

Because you daily routien will not chainge, is no reson why I can not have a gun. The only good reason for me not to have one would be if I decided to go after you with one.

If they do ban hand guns, I might want to get a 10 inch 10 gauge shot gun. Can't miss with one of those.

(Edited by SilverStar 1/9/2007 at 11:25 PM).


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In my entire post I added an "e" that didn't belong in an eleven letter word.... you follow that up with Because you daily routien will not chainge, is no reson why I can not have a gun.????  Seriously?  Wait, let me make it easier for you to comprehend.... seereeuslee?  Luckily, I wasn't home schooled.  (On a side note, anyone see that you can't home school in Germany if you are a Christian?  You have to love those Germans)


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I was merely pointing out how no one is perfect. I bet that you do know G limit on the F/A-18 Hornet, off of the top of your head.


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Some of us actually served in the Air Force, thank you for asking.  


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Wrong answer, I was looking for 8.5 Gs. Though 9.0 would have work because you can strech it to 9.0, but it isn't recommended.




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It wasn't an answer as you didn't ask a question.


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yes I did, "do know G limit on the F/A-18 Hornet, off of the top of your head." I will admit that I forgot the "?". Try this one, What is the most powerful weapon that the F/A-18 can carry?


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Which version?


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And actually your quote said that you bet I did know, so I'm not sure what you mean by "?" as that sentence still wouldn't be a question with one in it.


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Just answer the question, or admit that you don't know.


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I can't until you tell me which version of the F/A-18 Hornet you are referring to.


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