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There are a great deal of myths and realities about gun control in the US so I thought i would list a few here...

Gun Control: Myths and Realities

The number of well-publicized public shootings during the past few years, especially the tragedy at Columbine High School, has re-energized the gun control movement. As a show of strength, a coalition of gun control groups has organized a "Million Mom March" to be held in Washington, D.C. on Mother's Day, an event designed to stir up emotions rather than promote rational thought. And when one looks at the facts about gun control, it's easy to see why the anti-gun lobby relies on emotion rather than logic to make its case.

Think you know the facts about gun control? If your only source of information is the mainstream media, what you think you know may not be correct. Take the quiz below and test your knowledge.

1. Thousands of children die annually in gun accidents.

False. Gun accidents involving children are actually at record lows, although you wouldn't know it from listening to the mainstream media. In 1997, the last year for which data are available, only 142 children under 15 years of age died in gun accidents, and the total number of gun-related deaths for this age group was 642. More children die each year in accidents involving bikes, space heaters or drownings. The often repeated claim that 12 children per day die from gun violence includes "children" up to 20 years of age, the great majority of whom are young adult males who die in gang-related violence.

2. Gun shows are responsible for a large number of firearms falling into the hands of criminals.

False. Contrary to President Clinton's claims, there is no "gun show loophole." All commercial arms dealers at gun shows must run background checks, and the only people exempt from them are the small number of non-commercial sellers. According to the U.S. Department of Justice, at most 2 percent of guns used by criminals are purchased at gun shows, and most of those were purchased legally by people who passed background checks.

3. The tragedy at Columbine High School a year ago illustrates the deficiencies of current gun control laws.

False. Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold violated close to 20 firearms laws in amassing their cache of weapons (not to mention the law against murder), so it seems rather dubious to argue that additional laws might have prevented this tragedy. The two shotguns and rifle used by Harris and Klebold were purchased by a girlfriend who would have passed a background check, and the TEC-9 handgun used by them was already illegal.
4. States that allow registered citizens to carry concealed weapons have lower crime rates than those that don't.

True. The 31 states that have "shall issue" laws allowing private citizens to carry concealed weapons have, on average, a 24 percent lower violent crime rate, a 19 percent lower murder rate and a 39 percent lower robbery rate than states that forbid concealed weapons. In fact, the nine states with the lowest violent crime rates are all right-to-carry states. Remarkably, guns are used for self-defense more than 2 million times a year, three to five times the estimated number of violent crimes committed with guns.

5. Waiting periods lower crime rates.

False. Numerous studies have been conducted on the effects of waiting periods, both before and after the federal Brady bill was passed in 1993. Those studies consistently show that there is no correlation between waiting periods and murder or robbery rates. Florida State University professor Gary Kleck analyzed data from every U.S. city with a population over 100,000 and found that waiting periods had no statistically significant effect. Even University of Maryland anti-gun researcher David McDowell found that "waiting periods have no influence on either gun homicides or gun suicides."

6. Lower murder rates in foreign countries prove that gun control works.

False. This is one of the favorite arguments of gun control proponents, and yet the facts show that there is simply no correlation between gun control laws and murder or suicide rates across a wide spectrum of nations and cultures. In Israel and Switzerland, for example, a license to possess guns is available on demand to every law-abiding adult, and guns are easily obtainable in both nations. Both countries also allow widespread carrying of concealed firearms, and yet, admits Dr. Arthur Kellerman, one of the foremost medical advocates of gun control, Switzerland and Israel "have rates of homicide that are low despite rates of home firearm ownership that are at least as high as those in the United States." A comparison of crime rates within Europe reveals no correlation between access to guns and crime.

The basic premise of the gun control movement, that easy access to guns causes higher crime, is contradicted by the facts, by history and by reason. Let's hope more people are catching on.
http://www.cato.org//dailys/05-13-00.html


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Posts: 58 | Posted: 7:26 PM on March 21, 2007 | IP
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I concur.  We certainly wouldn't want another 642 children alive right now.


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I am going to assume that sarcasm is what you do... do you have anything constructive to offer at all?

Are you just hoplophobic?


what is it with you...?


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Posts: 58 | Posted: 10:33 AM on March 22, 2007 | IP
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Just underlining the ridiculousness of the sentiment.  How many of those children have to be yours before it quits being "only"?


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Posts: 1287 | Posted: 5:25 PM on March 22, 2007 | IP
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the usual lack of debate has determined how ill informed you are...now would you care to actually challenge any thing that is written there...or are we going to be subjected to simple one liners that are the type of thing from someone that might be hoplophobic by nature.?


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Posts: 58 | Posted: 6:37 PM on March 22, 2007 | IP
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You say as you completely disregard the question that was posed to you...

P.S. "hoplophobic" isn't a word.

"You keep on using that word.  I do not think it means what you think it means."


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Posts: 1287 | Posted: 10:19 PM on March 22, 2007 | IP
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oh i understand what it was meant to refer to and the types of people it was aimed at...

and zi know who coined the phrase.... so look it up and see if it applies to you, because it sure does not apply to gun owners...


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Posts: 58 | Posted: 11:01 PM on March 22, 2007 | IP
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Who is zi?  And I can't look up a word that doesn't exist.


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Posts: 1287 | Posted: 11:02 PM on March 22, 2007 | IP
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punched to many keys at once...sorry.... do the google thing and you can find it..and that way you might learn a bit more about people who are in the anti gun crowd


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Posts: 58 | Posted: 11:05 PM on March 22, 2007 | IP
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I've searched two different dictionaries and "hoplophobic" doesn't exist.


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Posts: 1287 | Posted: 11:06 PM on March 22, 2007 | IP
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funny, i found it after only one word typed in and enter... 762 sites use the word...have fun


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Posts: 58 | Posted: 11:08 PM on March 22, 2007 | IP
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Hmmmm. 8 million sites use the word "pwn" too.  Guess what.... it's not a word.


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Quote from EMyers at 11:10 PM on March 22, 2007 :
Hmmmm. 8 million sites use the word "pwn" too.  Guess what.... it's not a word.



well one day you will find it and figure it out, so do not count on me to take you to school and re educate you...because if you cannot figure this out then you should not be attempting to debate gun ownership...have a nice day or night.





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Posts: 58 | Posted: 11:21 PM on March 22, 2007 | IP
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So it's my fault you are using a word that doesn't exist.   You're a real zitersplitzen.  I suppose since that word is on the internet now, you can look it up and figure out what it means.  Me, I try not to follow the mindless drones out there on the net.  Of course, I graduated the third grade so I knows hows to use a dictionary real good.  (If you're not careful you might find one in your home, or maybe even at the library, or a book store.)


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Posts: 1287 | Posted: 11:24 PM on March 22, 2007 | IP
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this is a pure waste of energy... until you can understand that you are afraid of guns or at least you give that appearance of it.... I am done, because you have no clue as to how to post data, sources, charts, statistical information or anything this is a waste..

also since sarcasm is what appears to be you strong point... I'm off this one as wll.


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Posts: 58 | Posted: 09:01 AM on March 23, 2007 | IP
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Afraid of guns?  Hardly.  If I were I'm sure I'd keep one around for my "protection".


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Quote from EMyers at 9:52 PM on March 23, 2007 :
Afraid of guns?  Hardly.  If I were I'm sure I'd keep one around for my "protection".



now wtf does that mean?





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wtf?  Is that a word?  I'll assume you meant "now what does that mean?" since it is the only logical sentence I can make out of your post...  

Let me simplify it for you (although my original answer was nearly as simple as I could make it).  If I were afraid of guns, I would be one of the mindless drones that run around espousing goverment tyranny and the need to equip my house like a bunker on the off-chance that someone might try and break into my house with a gun (and since I'd obviously have to shoot him BEFORE he shot me I suppose I'd have to stay in a full kevlar suit with a drawn and cocked pistol at all times).  However, since I am not afraid of guns, I feel no such compunction.


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Quote from EMyers at 10:58 PM on March 23, 2007 :
wtf?  Is that a word?  I'll assume you meant "now what does that mean?" since it is the only logical sentence I can make out of your post...  

Let me simplify it for you (although my original answer was nearly as simple as I could make it).  If I were afraid of guns, I would be one of the mindless drones that run around espousing goverment tyranny and the need to equip my house like a bunker on the off-chance that someone might try and break into my house with a gun (and since I'd obviously have to shoot him BEFORE he shot me I suppose I'd have to stay in a full kevlar suit with a drawn and cocked pistol at all times).  However, since I am not afraid of guns, I feel no such compunction.



well after reading that entire line of chicken crap I have come to the conclusion that you might be a God damn nut.... so this has gone down the tube which is really what i expected and I learn quick.




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Posts: 58 | Posted: 11:00 PM on March 23, 2007 | IP
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At least I'm not afraid of a book.


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Posts: 1287 | Posted: 11:03 PM on March 23, 2007 | IP
    
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