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"A well-educated electorate being necessary to the preservation of a free society, the right of the people to read and compose books shall not be infringed."

This means:
A. Only well-educated voters have the right to read books.

B. The right to read books can be restricted to only those books necessary to educate an electorate

C. A limited number of books can be written so long as the author is in the State of their domicile, subject to a three day waiting periods, registration, and a one book per month reading limit.

D. People should be unimpeded in reading and composing books, so as to promote education.
 


Posts: 38 | Posted: 11:09 PM on April 10, 2007 | IP
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All members of the electorate have the right to read and compose books.  If only more people took advantage of this right.


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"Thou believest that God is one; thou does well: the demons also believe, and shudder." James 2:19 - Belief is never enough.
 


Posts: 1287 | Posted: 08:01 AM on April 11, 2007 | IP
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all free people have the right to keep and bear arms. If only more people took advantage of this right
 


Posts: 11 | Posted: 9:17 PM on April 17, 2007 | IP
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Yeah, dictionaries are dangerous.


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"Thou believest that God is one; thou does well: the demons also believe, and shudder." James 2:19 - Belief is never enough.
 


Posts: 1287 | Posted: 6:02 PM on April 18, 2007 | IP
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when abused, the right to free speech can be dangerous, as can the right to bear arms. The solution isn't banning or unconstitutionally restricting either.

The pen is mightier than the sword...?
 


Posts: 11 | Posted: 7:42 PM on April 18, 2007 | IP
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So we have no regulations against free speech?  Is that what you are saying?  And if not, should we not also be allowed to have regulations regarding arms?


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Posts: 1287 | Posted: 6:48 PM on April 19, 2007 | IP
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no, we shouldn't. "Shall not be infringed" is fairly straightforward. The lack of adjectives makes it difficult to twist the meaning. I doubt that was a coincidence when the founding fathers put it in there.
 


Posts: 11 | Posted: 8:08 PM on April 19, 2007 | IP
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Odd, I thought we were trying to regulate, which is a word I believe the founding fathers DID put in there.


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Posts: 1287 | Posted: 8:36 PM on April 19, 2007 | IP
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a well regulated MILITIA, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the PEOPLE to keep and bear arms SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED.

Should a militia be well regulated? it would appear so.

Is militia membership a prerequisite for the PEOPLE to keep and bear arms? Read what the founding fathers have to say and the answer is a resounding no.

So since the right to bear arms isn't dependent on membership in a "well regulated militia", shall not be infringed means shall not be infringed. Infringed means violated or LIMITED unconstitutionally.

Given all of that, limiting the types of arms we can buy, limiting where we can and cannot carry them is in infringement on the right to both keep and bear arms.

In a short answer, yes, regulating the right to bear arms is unconstitutional.
 


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So you, for one, would not have a problem if you're next door neighbor had a howitzer and an entire rack full of AK-47s?  Perhaps a bazooka while he's at it?  Grenade launcher?  Unconstitutional is unconstitutional, right?


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Posts: 1287 | Posted: 08:03 AM on April 20, 2007 | IP
    
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