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Should trigger locks be mandatory ? 

http://www.youdebate.com/DEBATES/trigger_lock.HTM

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Yes, because it would lead to less accidental shootings by children.  It would have a good impact on gangs who cant open their guns.


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Mandatory for what?  Mandatory to sell, or Mandatory to use?
Neither.  Most responsible gun owners own some type of safe or secure locker.  Why would you force the purchaser of a gun to buy a trigger lock, when he already has a safe at home?  It is a waste of money and the nonvoluntary purchase is an infringement upon my right not to be forced to buy something I don't want or need.
 


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Plus how are you going to enforce this law unless you send out the Government inspectors.  I think there is some problems with illegal search, being secure in you home etc, you know those other amendments in the BOR.  Personally all 10 are equally important to me!
 


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Quote from therut at 8:23 PM on October 13, 2002 :
Plus how are you going to enforce this law unless you send out the Government inspectors.  I think there is some problems with illegal search, being secure in you home etc, you know those other amendments in the BOR.  Personally all 10 are equally important to me!
You should be able to quote the amendments from memory.
Unfortunately, this is a goal I have not yet reached myself.


 


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trigger locks?....my dad would just tell me that if i ever touched one of his guns that he would whip the hell out of me....i never did touch them bc i had responsible parents to teach me gun safety at early ages....gun control is all about hitting your target
 


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Right on! I totally agree with the above sentiments. The answer to accidental shootings is not "control" but education in it's purest sense. This does not mean that I deny that there is no place for trigger locks, frankly they are cheaper sometimes than buying a secure gun case. However, I resent the government telling people the HAVE to have a trigger lock. How long do you want it to take for you to get your weapon into action in an emergency?

 


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Right on! I totally agree with the above sentiments. The answer to accidental shootings is not "control" but education in it's purest sense. This does not mean that I deny that there is no place for trigger locks, frankly they are cheaper sometimes than buying a secure gun case. However, I resent the government telling people the HAVE to have a trigger lock. How long do you want it to take for you to get your weapon into action in an emergency?

(Please forgive me posting this twice... I wanted to make sure that folks knew who posted this!)



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My gun education came in the form:

When I was old enough to get curious about guns. Dad let me shoot .357 Mag at 7 years old.  One shot scared the living tar out of me.  Never wanted to touch it again.  To this day, I love shooting my handguns, even bigger than .357, but his scares me.

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that reply as a guest was mine


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Quote from Exxoss at 3:49 PM on September 25, 2002 :
Yes, because it would lead to less accidental shootings by children.  It would have a good impact on gangs who cant open their guns.

Yes ofcourse thats the answer to gang violence!  Gang members "who cant open their guns" would not be able to shoot each other or us.  Well now we should pass this law immediatley being as gangs have the upmost respect for the law and I am sure they would be more than happy to install trigger locks on their weapons... Anything else?

 


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That post was mine I was on another computer.


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I think that trigger locks would be good to have on pistols, if anything.  However, the dealers should give them to the person when they buy a gun.  The people that buy the guns don't want to go out and buy trigger locks for something that is not a danger in their own house.  Trigger locks are exspensive yet the authorities think that the people should buy them.  It won't work if the retailers are trying to get the consumers money instead of safety.
 


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In 1996, more children age 10 and younger died by drowing in a bucket than were accidently killed by a firearm. Statistics are fun!

When anti-gun sources quote statistics of children accidently killed by guns, their definition of child (which they conveniently don't mention) is anyone age 21 or sometimes eve 25 and younger. Kind of bloats the statistics doesn't it...



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Trigger locks be mandatory? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!  I would LOVE to see the gov't try to enforce that one...  what, do you get a cop that comes in every night and tucks your gun in or something?
 


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I'm going to let my buddy Darwin feild this one.

If the kid knows what guns can do and acciedently shoots himself, the genepool is better off with out'em


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No not at all, the government is in the business of control and that is all this is... given the time factor it takes to unlock and defend myself in my home or elsewhere compared to the speed with which the criminal element would move up on me, vs. a 911 call that may not get answered.... screw em.

I refuse to use them, they are a danger and a menace... education is the key in the home to prevent accidental shootings as well as personal responsibility of the adult in the home.


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Well in that case let's disband CPS.  Let's get rid of the police and fire departments.  We can OBVIOUSLY rely on the personal responsibility of our citizenship.  Heck, let's just decomission the military as well.  Leave the defense of our nation in the capable hands of the NRA.  I'll save thousands in taxes.  Who's with me?  


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well since the police deaprtments are under no legal obligation to come to your aid and rescue you from the criminal, and since the miltary is not required to do so either that is rather a redundant and ill informed statement.

trigger locks might work in some cases but not when it comes time to have to defend yourself...

sarcasm is not going to gain you anything at all...the NRA has nothing to do with you and your choice of whether or not you want a trigger lock or not...if you do fine, and I will come to your funeral when you need the gun and have to fight to get it unlocked to prevent your demise...
me I do not lock anything with a lock...gun education and proper instruction is essential in preventing accidents...not a damn lock.


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Since more people with guns (per capita) are killed each year than those who don't have guns, I'll probably be at your funeral, but thanks for the thought.


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Nope ...guns are not the leading killer...and those killed by guns are not that often killed by legal and law abiding folks....check the demographics and become educated on that one first...

btw...some 80 million gun owners today did not shoot anyone, so that just shot your entire theory right in the butt....


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You can twist it anyway you want.  The truth is, you are more likely to be killed by a gun when you own a gun.  Wrap it, smoke it, whatever you like.  At the end of the day, it is still the truth.  And I'm not really sure where you got "leading killer" from because it certainly wasn't in my post.  And the idea that people aren't killed by law-abiding folk.... well, duh.  It's against the law to murder people.  :P


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I suppose you can put up or shut up on the words here of your "you are more likely to be killed by a gun when you own a gun. "

I want to see your statistics and link to a source that backs up the claim you are making... in iother words probve it..

so in the light of self defense you think that a person has no right to offer resistance and if that means defending themselves with a gun then they are not justified?

It is against the law to murder people, yes...but it is not against the law to offer resitance and act in self defense...

the leading killer was a bad choice of words on my part there... you said    ..." Since more people with guns (per capita) are killed each year than those who don't have guns, "

now prove that statistic for me.... since the way that you are wording it means several different things.... link and source..


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New England Journal of Medicine
October 7, 1993
Pages 1084-91

Does that probve it?

And people always have the ability to defend themselves.  They've been doing it since before guns were invented.


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post your direct link it is the proper thing to do when quoting something.... quote your source in good old english if you know how to do that..

oh and quote your statistics... ver batim


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Does no one know how to use the dewey decimal system anymore?


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Quote from EMyers at 10:16 PM on March 22, 2007 :
Does no one know how to use the dewey decimal system anymore?



so quote your data and supply a link or this is nothing more than heresay and unsubstantiated hogwash....back up your claim with actual numbers, charts or what ever you want...





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How does one supply a link to the New England Journal of Medicine?  It's in the LIBRARY.  


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Quote from EMyers at 11:05 PM on March 22, 2007 :
How does one supply a link to the New England Journal of Medicine?  It's in the LIBRARY.  



just a question here...how long have you been doing this and still not know how to supply charts, graphs, quotes, statistics and links...?




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Hmmm. well I don't have a scanner so I can't very well copy it and I'm not currently at the library so I can't read it to you.  How long have you been doing this and can't figure out how to go to a library and check things out for yourself?  Or do you only believe things on wikipedia?


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Just for you...

NEJM

Now you can either pay to access it or go look it up at the library.  Me, I'm cheap.  I use the library.


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i do not use wiki...not that reliable...

saw the link but you do the homework and put your charts and data here and then I can counter... besides I do not look up things unless it is needed.... so until you figure out how to post data this conversation has ended ...God damn just when i thought it would get good.


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I thought you'd chicken out when I used the word library.  Didn't think you'd resort to using the Lord's name in vain however.  Guess I overestimated you.


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Quote from EMyers at 11:26 PM on March 22, 2007 :
I thought you'd chicken out when I used the word library.  Didn't think you'd resort to using the Lord's name in vain however.  Guess I overestimated you.


I say what I want and he / she sure as hell is not mine...at least not the bible thumper version of this lord. you keep him I have no use ...besides my beliefs are totally different and I care not to discuss that issue at all....

so have you figured out how to cut and paste as yet?
until you can post some data you are spining your wheels and not doing your so called argument any good now.
library has nothing to do with it, and until you actually post something that is often used to back up your statements you got nothing...

and this has ended with a nothing.





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Hmmm... cut and paste an article I read at the library and put it into my computer... nope, haven't figured that one out.


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Quote from EMyers at 9:51 PM on March 23, 2007 :
Hmmm... cut and paste an article I read at the library and put it into my computer... nope, haven't figured that one out.



now I am not sure if this is sarcasm or not but here goes...highlight the lines you want, then
right click on to copy, then move onto the subject you are working and left click to get the little line that is blinking off and on (so to speak) and then right click onto paste, and you just quoted something....then when you do the link you do the same thing with the URL at the tope of your page and cut and paste onto the end of your article or page...really pretty simple...




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Ok, how do I "highlight" or "right click" on a printed page?


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Quote from admin at 10:01 AM on May 1, 2002 :
Should trigger locks be mandatory ? 

http://www.youdebate.com/DEBATES/trigger_lock.HTM

(Edited by admin 10/8/2002 at 6:53 PM).



So, the next time some one breaks into my house I will ask them to wait for me to get the trigger lock off.


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1) When was the last time an armed robber broke into your house?

2) Trigger lock or not, what do you think the chances are that he can't fire before you can (after all, I assume he already has his weapon in his hand and cocked--- what are the chances you happened to be holding yours in the middle of the night)?


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EMyers,
1.when was the last time someone told you to shut up?
2.What are the chances a bird has a scud missile in its right wing and cant fire before you can(After all,I assume the bird already has the scud missile in its wing armed and ready to be dropped---what are the chances you are going to be ready to shoot the bird down with F*** bomb)?
3.All people with an Anti-gun and gun control mentality have an irrational fear of guns,are selfish,pretty dumb and ignorant if you ask me,and actually believe that gun bans work on criminals.
 


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Well, since I'm not afraid to answer questions that are posed to me...

1) Not in well over a decade.
2) Even a harpy eagle doesn't have sufficent lift to carry a scud missle
3) We didn't ask you.  The questions we did ask you you were apparently too scared to answer (or dumb or ignorant or whatever).


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Quote from EMyers at 10:54 PM on March 21, 2007 :
You can twist it anyway you want.  The truth is, you are more likely to be killed by a gun when you own a gun.  Wrap it, smoke it, whatever you like.  At the end of the day, it is still the truth.  And I'm not really sure where you got "leading killer" from because it certainly wasn't in my post.  And the idea that people aren't killed by law-abiding folk.... well, duh.  It's against the law to murder people.  :P



This is an perfect example of statistics in the hands of the uneducated.

Did you know that people with home security systems are also more likely to be murdered?  I guess we should ban home security systems.

Or, perhaps you can take a step back from your tunnel-visioned-existence and use your brain.  People who own guns and home security systems are more likely to be murdered because people who know they have a higher chance of being murdered are more likely to buy guns and home security systems, i.e. a woman with a stalker, anyone living in a bad neighborhood, people with gang affiliation, etc.
 


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So you are saying, for the record, that you are NOT more likely to be killed by a gun when you own a gun?  If you are, I'd really like to see it in black and white.


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So what if it is more likely to killed with a gun if you own it.Having a knife is also more likely to kill if you own it in your home.What kind of stupid logic is that you own chemicals you are more likely to be killed then with out it???
CAN I SAY SOMEONE IS REALLY AFRAID OF LIVING LIFE WITH RISK AND DENIES IT EXISTS.
LIFE HAS RISKS YOU JUST GET EDUCATED ON THE DANGERS AND TRY TO AVOID DOING SOMETHING STUPID.LEARN HOW TO USE THE GUN AND YOU WILL  MORE LIKELY  SAVE YOURSELF AND YOUR FAMILY THAN WITH OUT ONE.
 


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Quote from EMyers at 7:57 PM on April 9, 2007 :
So you are saying, for the record, that you are NOT more likely to be killed by a gun when you own a gun?  If you are, I'd really like to see it in black and white.



Why don't you try a little harder.  Reread my post and tell me if you really think thats what it says.
 


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I'm asking you to say it.  In black & white.  Yes or no.  


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The answer is "no," that is not what I said.  What I said was that people who are more likely to be killed are more likely to seek means of protection, i.e. guns and home security systems.  People with home security systems are more likely to be murdered, that doesn't lead to the conclusion that home security systems cause murder.

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So you are saying, for the record, that you are NOT more likely to be killed by a gun when you own a gun?  If you are, I'd really like to see it in black and white.


The answer is "no,"

Ergo you are more likely to be killed by a gun when you own a gun.  Thank you.  Now we are finally getting somewhere.


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If you own a car you're more likely to be killed by a car. Same if you own a swimming pool you are more likely to be killed by a swimming pool.
 


Posts: 86 | Posted: 10:17 AM on April 10, 2007 | IP
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Emeyers, you aren't interested in debating whether or not gun  control works.  All you are interested in is bickering with people.

The only thing you have is two debunked statistics, yet you just keep repeating them.  I offer you three pages of compiled research by academics, and you don't even consider it.

The fact of the matter is that there is an abundance of research that proves that guns do more good than harm.  They are used more often in saving lives than taking lives.  Countries which have banned guns have seen skyrocketing violent crime.  There has never been any sound evidence to suggest that gun control works.  You are just a small man with a large, irrational fear.  You would impose your irrational fear regardless of the consequences, and ignoring all the warning signs.  You are a fool.
 


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