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Xenjael

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i have recently posted in the forum that i believe a good to halt terrorist actions with plains on and off the take off, i believe that there should be at leave 5 policemen on the plain at a time, and at least one hostesses or hoters should be a military soldier, and that there should be at least 2 backup pilots not in uniform waiting to take over if the situation turns ugly... plz post in the area and tell me if you any ideas that could improve this topic... and i think this topic should have its own area, like halting terrorist incidents on the airways.. or something similar
 


Posts: 83 | Posted: 2:42 PM on September 8, 2002 | IP
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good idea. you can count on my support (for what that's worth).
If you want a new forum to start (I reccomend call it "terrorism") post in the suggestions forum, and bring it up. thats how i got middle east in.


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Terrorism is bad, but is killing a good way to solve anything?  F*** killing, just put osama in a torture chamber.


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Posts: 438 | Posted: 3:04 PM on September 25, 2002 | IP
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Isn't torture and cruel and unusual punishment a violation of the Genoa Convention?
 


Posts: 0 | Posted: 09:52 AM on October 13, 2002 | IP
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i am a pilot and i would like to carry a gun with me on every flight. I hope the law is passed so i can do so. UNfortunatly your plan is unfeasible. Your plan cost too much for the airlines to consider. To carry backup pilots would be very very expensive and no pilot would want to be the backup pilot bc he would not log any flightt time which is what promotions and raise are based on..secondly if you ever rode on a plane you would notice that there are always other pilots on the plane.transferring from one airport to anothere to go home or to go to work where they are assigned...another issue is all the seats taken up by all the hidden marshalls. SEATS=MONEY to airlines and they will not give up that many seats at most probaly one....and not in the front in first class but in the rear in the cheap seats.
 


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I think we need to get the feds completely out of the whole security thing, and leave airline security completely up to the airlines.

After all, the airlines are the folks who have the second-highest stake in making sure terrorists don't take over their aircraft and crash them into buildings.  Airliners are expensive, and so are lawsuits.  The airlines have every reason in the world to come up with the absolute best airline security system for the job.

The government, on the other hand, has at the very most no stake at all in the issue.  If government-designed security fails, nobody in the government will lose his job or even take a pay cut.  The only motivation the government has in the issue is to impose security requirements that sound good to voters--which, as we all know, has nothing to do with whether they are good or not.

Some airlines might cater to the sort of people who like to vote for politicians who impose meaningless restrictions.  These airlines would charge huge ticket fees to pay for all the security folks and machines to frisk and scan and sniff and strip-search all the passengers and baggage, and to pay for replacement aircraft and settle lawsuits when terrorists bribe the ground crew, get weapons aboard, take over a plane full of helpless sheep, and crash it into something solid.

Other airlines might cater to folks who don't mind taking responsibility for themselves.  These tickets would be dirt-cheap.  There'd be no security personnel or machines.  Anyone would be allowed to take anything he wanted aboard the plane as long as he didn't blow the weight-and-balance restrictions.  Nail clippers, knives, handguns, rifles, whatever.  No terrorist would dare try to take over a plane like that, so replacement and legal costs would be much lower.

I'm a pilot myself, and I encourage my passengers to bring whatever makes them feel secure, whether it's a barf bag or a parachute or a gun; I just give them a weight limit.  The thing I won't do is fly anywhere on commercial airlines until I can do so without being humiliated  and degraded by jackbooted security goons.  In the meantime, I can fly myself anywhere I need to go in my little lawnmower-with-wings.  Most of the time I can even get there faster, once you count the fact that A) all I have to do is preflight, refuel, and get a clearance, rather than standing in line for security for three hours, and B) I can fly direct to my destination without having to go through a hub.
 


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It makes no sense to my why a pilot trained in the military, that is were most pilots come from, can carry a side arm, pull Gs, concentrate on dropping bombs, and be safe.

But it is not safe for the same pilot to be armed at 1 G flying on a milk run?

(Edited by kelvin90703 1/21/2003 at 2:12 PM).
 


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