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EMyers

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What was excepted?  I didn't realize I was allowing for any exceptions.  I was asking you a "yes" or "no" question.


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Posts: 1287 | Posted: 10:00 PM on April 25, 2006 | IP
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typo.  excepted = accepted
 


Posts: 55 | Posted: 10:56 PM on April 25, 2006 | IP
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"yes" or "no"?


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Posts: 1287 | Posted: 11:01 AM on April 26, 2006 | IP
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Quote from EMyers at 11:01 AM on April 26, 2006 :
"yes" or "no"?


no.



Look, I am sorry if you can't understand simple concepts such as the 'burden of proof,' that are used in every single court in this country.  Look it up, read about it, and then get back to me.  I don't have to justify my second amendment right for the same reason you do not have to justify your first amendment right, or any of your constitutional rights.  The person arguing to rewrite the constitution has the 'burden of proof,' or burden of justification.

 


Posts: 55 | Posted: 11:42 PM on April 26, 2006 | IP
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Chuckle...


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Posts: 1287 | Posted: 04:17 AM on April 27, 2006 | IP
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Quote from Guest at 03:15 AM on April 8, 2003 :
Hello,
I´m a student at a German school, and along with two other people I work on a project, that is about guns in America.
As you may perhaps know, in Germany not everyone may have a gun - you either have to buy it illegally or you must have some kind of special license.

Although I don´t have a gun, I´m not too anxious, that I get killed, as soon as I leave the house. (Maybe that´s due to the fact, that actually there aren´t too many German people having guns?!)
And as you can see - I´m still alive, although I never touched a gun, and although I don´t intend to do so in the future.

My question to all of you is the following:
Why do you think, that you must own guns? Wouldn´t it be better, if you wouldn´t have to need them?

How do you think about the law - is it really so good, that everyone may possess a gun in America? Isn´t this making it easier for the criminals to shoot your brain? I mean - without guns they couldn´t shoot you, and you wouldn´t have to defend yourself.

How do you think about the many Germans/people in other countries, who are against the free distribution of guns like me? Do you think we´re kind of too courageous?

I´m looking forward to your responses.

Regards!



It would be great to have an America where the people wouldn't need to defend themselves, but sadly, that's far from the truth.
According to an FBI survey, in 1995 over 700 people were the victims of hate crime alone.  That's ignoring robbery, rape, and murder that are not hate crimes.

And not everyone can own a gun.  Only those that aren't convicted of crimes are allowed to own a gun, federally.  Sadly, many states, New Jersey and California being the vangaurds, are further imposing unconstitutional laws on thier residents.

Yes, it may be slightly easier for a criminal to shoot your head in the US.  But chances are, they got the gun without regard for the law anyway.  The only people that care about following laws are the law-abiding, not criminals.  Therefore, it's far easier for us to be able to defend our home, our family, and our lives in the US.

I can't say how gun control should be in Germany, as your society is quite different from ours.  But I'll tell you that in the US, areas with stricter gun control laws have significantly higher crime rates than areas with lax gun control laws.

Let's take for example, Vermont and Washington DC.  In Washington, people can't own scary rifles, shotguns, or handguns.  They can only own low-capacity magazines.  Unless they are government officials on duty, they can't carry any weapon.  DC has a very high crime rate.  In Vermont, a kid my age can go out and buy any non-NFA long-gun with high-capacity magazines, belts of ammo, and folding-stocks.  At age 16, any kid can purchase any handgun.  Anyone at all not federally barred from owning firearms is permitted to carry one without any license.  Vermont has the third lowest crime rate in the nation, the only ones lower are sparsely populated.  This quite apparently shows that in the US: places with guns are bad for criminals, since they would be afraid of getting their heads blown off.
 


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I don't have to justify my second amendment right

Ever notice how people who bring up their second amendment rights always start with "the right to bear arms" and never quote the whole thing?  The amendment reads: "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed." How many people do you know (that fight for their second amendment rights) are members of their state militia (the equivalent of which is the National Guard today)?  I didn't think so.  


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Posts: 1287 | Posted: 08:52 AM on May 20, 2006 | IP
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I'm from Europe too, in fact from Austria if you know that country, and I just wanted to clarify that Europeans don't really care about your crime rate in the gun issue, but on the number of people being killed by weapons, which is higher than in Europe or Canada.


 


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Amen.


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Posts: 1287 | Posted: 6:03 PM on May 29, 2006 | IP
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I need one because I want one and it is my constitutional right to own one. If I want to live like Europeans live I would move to Europe.
 


Posts: 2 | Posted: 9:52 PM on May 30, 2006 | IP
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It is your constitutional right to bear one (not own one) to establish a well REGULATED MILITIA.  What militia (i.e. National Guard) are you a member of and don't they provide you with one when you are acting in your official capacity?


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Posts: 1287 | Posted: 09:10 AM on May 31, 2006 | IP
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*chuckle*

You realy need a dictionary.
 


Posts: 8 | Posted: 03:03 AM on June 11, 2006 | IP
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And you really need to be able to follow a line of logic without relying on semantics...  The point was obvious.  Didn't know I needed to spell it out for you.


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Quote from CalDave1413 at 02:08 AM on May 1, 2003 :
Europe and Canada may have a sickly deluded idea of the world but a lot less people die there from murders.  So maybe we should adopt that idea to.  And just the fact that Adolph Hitler said gun regisration made streets safer doesn't mean its inherently wrong.  Hitler was a terrible person but if he said 2+2 equals 4 would that be wrong too.  And yes if you outlaw guns criminals will just use bats, but hey I don't know about you but I would definetly rather be hit with a bat than a bullet.
Which is not to say I think all guns should be outlawed, I happen to enjoy shooting as well.  But I don't need to own a gun to shoot I could go to club the type that they have in Britain.  And cars aren't outlawed because more people die from car accidents than guns, and cars are in fact regulated more so than guns are requiring driving tests and in some states mandantory drivers ed.  Whereas guns can be purchased by any 21-year-old without a criminal record.


You better rethink that. Canada's homicide rate is twice the US's.  Remember raw #'s don't tell you anything it's per capita. Great Britain is proposing a knife ban since their crime rate is out of control. And Hitler didn't say that. the registration was in before Hitler. all the registration did was give the Natzis the location of the arms so they could collect them which they did.  





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